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Apple Watch Demand Slides Significantly in June as Launch Momentum Wanes
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Sure, they have sold more - but also they have a much larger user base these days (which - off topic & I'm definitely NOT speaking about you - seems to be an issue for the one or other die hard retro Apple fan, who still likes to view them as some kind of non-mainstream underdog company, especially when it comes to issues like Tim Cook's public engagements - Steve Jobs' death came at a timing where it would have been very interesting to see how he would have handled plenty of new issues including the worldwide dominance of Android and issues like screen sizes). So with the traction that they've gained via iPhone and iPad you'd hope that they'd also appeal to that much larger customer base.
Or to make the direct comparison - if the next iPhone/iPod generation would sell just a bit more then the very first gen iPhone or iPod, would you consider those devices a success or a flop?
Again, personally I don't have an issue at all with Apple releasing a product that is not a huge mainstream success, as long as they keep developing and supporting it (I love watches, I love my Apple stuff, but it's a bad combo for me, I rarely get notifications and I give a crap about my health so it's a useless gadget to me, like any other of the smartwatches). I just don't think that it's a huge (or as Samsung would say "the next big") thing. But with all the experience they are making with the watch, who knows, maybe Ms. Ahrendts will be advertising for Swarovksy Apple TV pouches sometime soon
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While I have extremely minimal interest in the Apple Watch itself, the metal link band looks like absolute watch wristband pr0n.
Sure, they have sold more - but also they have a much larger user base these days (which - off topic & I'm definitely NOT speaking about you - seems to be an issue for the one or other die hard retro Apple fan, who still likes to view them as some kind of non-mainstream underdog company, especially when it comes to issues like Tim Cook's public engagements - Steve Jobs' death came at a timing where it would have been very interesting to see how he would have handled plenty of new issues including the worldwide dominance of Android and issues like screen sizes). So with the traction that they've gained via iPhone and iPad you'd hope that they'd also appeal to that much larger customer base.
Or to make the direct comparison - if the next iPhone/iPod generation would sell just a bit more then the very first gen iPhone or iPod, would you consider those devices a success or a flop?
Again, personally I don't have an issue at all with Apple releasing a product that is not a huge mainstream success, as long as they keep developing and supporting it (I love watches, I love my Apple stuff, but it's a bad combo for me, I rarely get notifications and I give a crap about my health so it's a useless gadget to me, like any other of the smartwatches). I just don't think that it's a huge (or as Samsung would say "the next big") thing. But with all the experience they are making with the watch, who knows, maybe Ms. Ahrendts will be advertising for Swarovksy Apple TV pouches sometime soon
Why would you benchmark a first generation device to a later generation device?
At first that sounds like a good point, but would you deny that the iPad's success was based on the foundation that the iPhone did establish? Different devices, different generations - and most importantly - extremely different amount of existing customers.
(I'm not saying that the Apple Watch is "failing" - I'll leave that to Frosty and Co. , I think it's a success either way, it's been praised in regards of design (I have seen a lot of people develop their opinion from "it looks fugly online" to "in person it looks great") and workmanship, I've played around with it at a few stores and it pretty much ruled out for me to ever consider getting a Pebble, despite the "yay, 7 days without charging (but I'll have to check the battery status anyway)").
Actually, you are way way off. I can turn off my iphone and get stock quotes, weather updates, send messages to other people, receive messages from other people. I can leave my iPhone at home and go to work 45 miles away and still get stock quotes, weather updates, sent and receive iMessages, ask siri to do things for me, I can do workouts and track my steps and miles and heart rate. Should I go on? I can go to any coffee shop I normally use and continue to do all of the above with no iPhone on or with me. I can ask siri to search the internet and get responses back. I could accidentally leave my iPhone on a plane that lands in China and still do all of the above.
But can you climb Everest and take a picture with your Apple Watch?
Case closed.
Be careful with slice data:
http://www.imore.com/opinion-apple-watch-sales-coverage-plunges-90-accuracy
http://www.imore.com/opinion-apple-watch-sales-coverage-plunges-90-accuracy
Home to Work, one nighter, and back to work (same clothes) and back home. It is actually 36 Hours.
I like my watch, especially the activity rings. I think the battery life needs to be better. I purchased the Sports model . I also had the Samsung watch, it was fine too, battery lasted at least 2 days for first year I had it, now it lasts a little over a day. Apple watch last about a day, when I charge it at nights it's usually around 30%.
IMO, sales would have been better if the watch had been available in stores on launch day for customers to purchase . People like getting their purchases immediately, not having the long waits that this watch had. I thought the idea of having to go to stores and only look and try on and not be able to take watch home was silly. Also , not every city has an Apple Store , yet Apple has failed to make the watches available in other stores such as Best Buy, or Target or any other retail stores that sell their other products. The eye buys, and when you can't see it and get it right then, interest dies down.
Just my thoughts...
IMO, sales would have been better if the watch had been available in stores on launch day for customers to purchase . People like getting their purchases immediately, not having the long waits that this watch had. I thought the idea of having to go to stores and only look and try on and not be able to take watch home was silly. Also , not every city has an Apple Store , yet Apple has failed to make the watches available in other stores such as Best Buy, or Target or any other retail stores that sell their other products. The eye buys, and when you can't see it and get it right then, interest dies down.
Just my thoughts...
Yet that same fansite has used them as a basis for articles that are positive to Apple, WITHOUT QUESTIONING THEIR NUMBERS AT ALL.
E.g. Research firm estimates one million US Apple Watch pre-orders on day one - iMore
Funny how their methods are only suspect when they have unfavorable results.
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I agree that Apple is a bigger company with bigger reach and existing customer base to upsell to now than before.
However, it is still a first generation product and it is designed for the iPhone users only, which limits the total size of the market to about a billion people or so, unlike iPads, iPods or iPhones which could, at least in theory, serve the entire human population.
The current market is even smaller than that, since it requires an iPhone 5 or above. Maybe 300 million?
This was on the national news today, or maybe it was local, it was early, but still, why is this news? There are a finite number of consumers that the Apple Watch works for, so of course sales are going to taper down over time. All the way until the second one comes out and then another spike. Couldn't the same model be shown for iPhone sales? As soon as a new one hits the market it rings in new sales records, and then it tapers down.
I bought and sold two for profit, never even opened them.
I bought and sold two for profit, never even opened them.
then when you factor in price with lack of subsidies, where the iphone might actually end up cheaper in peoples pockets due to them,
the actual target market for the Apple Watch actually seems much much smaller than the iOS install base.
But I'm sure Apple considered this. Maybe why they only ordered like 5 mil originally, instead of 20-30m
Sound the alarm bells! Apple ONLY sold $20,000,000.00 of Apple Watch Editions in a single country in two months... Apple is DOOMED!
Seriously though, this dropoff can't really come as a surprise to anyone.
This Apple support bulletin says it will also be included in iCloud backups:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204518
Are you saying that's broken? Or am I misunderstanding this? (Not trying to argue.. I just don't want to find out the hard way that my fitness data isn't being backed up.)
I'm sure everybody here knows that. However, this thread is not about discussing facts but pushing an agenda.
When you can get an Android Wear watch that does basically the same thing for less than half the cost, the Apple Watch is a tough sell.
I think Apple has proven that argument wrong time and time again.No, they have proven it wrong when you can get a phone with a subsidy. When you are paying full price for something its a different story.
Those aren't really in the same class. We are talking about a smart watch. Mobile products that require a mobile phone to function. All I am saying is that when the entire smartwatch market has had very little interest or success, it can only be expected that a new, extremely expensive product in that category would struggle.