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Always makes me chuckle inside when I see tools wearing this atrocity. I love the ceramic 1000$ watch made of only the finest recycled toilet bowls. Victims lol

I always chuckle inside when people say stuff like this because clearly they have no idea what ceramic is.
 
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I use a fitness band. The reason why I didn't switch to Apple Watch is because it does not do enough without the iPhone being near it. If they can make it do more things without the need of an iPhone, I'd buy one right away.

I want to be able to walk into Whole Foods, without my iPhone, and receive a text message if I get one.

That would be great.
 
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The Apple Watch is fugly and you have to charge it every night just like everything else they make. A Rolex is a watch. An Apple Watch is a gimmick.
It most certainly is but I so far have loved it. It has actually saved my iphone battery because I don't need my phone as much and my fitness has increased dramatically more than I expected it to for having it... It's weird.
 
They can be, and are, many don't even realize it as it seemlessly uses any wifi network your phone has stored to use...it will retrieve email, texts, gps, you name it when the phone is off or not available.

I mean truly antonymous - LTE/wireless. Put on your Apple watch and leave the house knowing you have access to texts, email, gps, apple pay etc.
 
Because the features around Activity and Workout on Apple Watch are totally useless, and if you're in it only for the sports features there are many better, much cheaper, options out there. Nobody needs one. This is Apple's biggest problem, they price a huge amount of people out of their products and thus restrict uptake.
 
Because they both compete for the same spot on your wrist and you won't wear both. So my dollars go to either the basic fitness band or a more advanced smartwatch fitness band, but not both.
Such a simple clear concept apparently difficult to understand. Probably bias affects the way you look at it

Good, as it should be.

In other news Ferrari trails car market as Ford Focus sales "Reign Supreme"

(Note: This is called a joke for those people who've mathematically tried to work out which car brands are more accurately comparable to the price difference between an Apple Watch and a Xiaomi Mi band...christ)

I don't understand why these things are compared. Basic fitness-only wearables are a completely different product from Apple Watch. Most of that market is not going to buy an Apple Watch instead.

Fitness tracking is 1 of 100 Apple Watch features.

Edit: This just in - 95% of refrigerator profits not going to Apple.

It's like comparing an iphone with a Motorola Razr.

The Apple watch is just not a fitness tracker, so it should not be lumped in with fitness trackers,
apples & oranges.

Agreed, comparing $70 fitbits and $15 Mi Bands to $300+ Apple Watches doesn't make much sense.

In other news, $200-$500 windows laptops outsell $2400 Retina MacBook Pro.

Totally different market. Wouldn't part with my Apple Watch for anything.

There is a big difference between comparing market shares in quantity vs. revenue/profit.


This is like comparing the new MBP to the previous generation.
The old MBP is like the Watch, and the new MBP is the FitBit. Apples and oranges.

that's a terrible comparison. lol

apple watch 400$ avg? basic fitness watch 100$?

how about a MB E Class to a Toyota Camry
 
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Such a simple clear concept apparently difficult to understand. Probably bias affects the way you look at it
And you miss the point. A $100 fitbit is going to have higher market share than a $300+ avg price Apple Watch, so this isn't news. It has nothing to do with bias, it's that the headline is simply a "no $h!t sherlock". A more useful comparison would be a breakdown of how it compares to similarly priced smartwatches, not overall market share where cheaper alternatives always reign supreme.

This isn't a comparison of the devices themselves to make a purchasing decision, so "only one watch is going to be on my wrist" is a moot point.
 
Why would a customer care about market share?

Because it relates to how much third party support your product will have and how likely it is to continue to exist.

For example I can easily find 3rd party covers custom made for my mbp because there's so many of them. Random PC laptops don't have that option available.
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This article was published by a market research firm and intended for investors not consumers.

My point still remains, why do Apple enthusiasts care?
 
Agreed, comparing $70 fitbits and $15 Mi Bands to $300+ Apple Watches doesn't make much sense.

In other news, $200-$500 windows laptops outsell $2400 Retina MacBook Pro.


uhhhh my Garmin Fenix 3 was $550. Agreed, though articles comparing these two distinct market segments are all just click bait.

Anyone that actually wants to track their fitness (in nearly any environment) is going to pay $300-$800 for a Garmin or Suunto, end of story. Apple watch is a great toy/tool and I'd love to wear one around all day, but when you actually want to go on a hike you'd probably want a device that would run for more that a few hours. Again not comparing these devices at all, apple should really stop trying to do that.
 
Always makes me chuckle inside when I see tools wearing this atrocity. I love the ceramic 1000$ watch made of only the finest recycled toilet bowls. Victims lol

Some people will do anything to appear to be popular. The old Apple brand sold these watches because Apple was more often leading edge, reliable, and more in tune with what you wanted than not. The new Apple brand of making just so-so unreliable products that are expensive and not used by professionals will wear out soon. The new Microsoft commercials are killing Apple. Yes it will take while for the Apple hard core to change, but the "You can't do that with a Mac" is brilliant and true. What they don't say is that "Apple does not want us to do that with a Mac", IMO because they think they know better. Years past Microsoft carried the flag of arrogance, now it is Apple.

I am not saying that the Surface is a better product or that Windows is a better product, because even with the let down in hardware and software quality Apple stuff just has that je ne sais quoi essence. But that essence is certainly going down, down, down and Tim Cook has no idea that it even exists. I can see it now, Mr. Cook, "You mean people still use macs. Wow, I though we were so over that, now that we invested in that ride share company in China. Don't these people know that that is the future." Now me, I don't particularly want my technology provided by a company that thinks its future is determined by a Chinese ride sharing company, when it could not care less about technology professionals.
 
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And you miss the point. A $100 fitbit is going to have higher market share than a $300+ avg price Apple Watch, so this isn't news. It has nothing to do with bias, it's that the headline is simply a "no $h!t sherlock". A more useful comparison would be a breakdown of how it compares to similarly priced smartwatches, not overall market share where cheaper alternatives always reign supreme.

This isn't a comparison of the devices themselves to make a purchasing decision, so "only one watch is going to be on my wrist" is a moot point.

honestly this is a bit of a pointless argument. I don't believe for a minute that Apple released the watch with view to it being 5% of the wearables market.
 
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i can understand why this is honestly. it is a premium device.

Ive had my apple watch for almost a month and I'm quite impressed so far.

Why would you lend you Apple Watch to Jony Ive for almost a month?


*UPDATE* Just noticed the joke was already quite old when I posted this…
 
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Getting higher elevation?o_O:eek::p:D

The overall category is wearables. Fitness trackers are a type of wearable. Smartwatches are a type wearable. The report is about the overall category.
OK, don't like that comparison - how do T-shirts sell compared to suit coats? Yes, you can compare them. But does the answer matter?
 
Someting like a Fenix 3 does alot more than count steps, and is priced comparably with an apple watch. I suspect the short battery life may put people of getting an apple watch, also the prospect that Apple may ditch it if it fails to sell well.

I've had a Fenix 3 for over two years and it has literally been trouble free and received 7 major OS updates, has insanely great battery life and compares to nothing else on the market besides the Suunto models. Sure they cost $500-$1000 (Garmin Chrono) but for the true utility of "smart" activity tracking. Not to mention, music control, garmin virb control, track your dog, see a readout from your vessel's telemetry, sync via wifi or bluetooth. Onboard ABTC functions as well as an endless supply of apps and add-ons via their OpenSDK.
 
honestly this is a bit of a pointless argument. I don't believe for a minute that Apple released the watch with view to it being 5% of the wearables market.

This can go back and forth for forever. Mac averages around 8% of entire PC market share.

Not only is the Apple Watch more expensive, but it can also only be used by iPhone users. I mean, come on.
 
I personally don't have a use for the Apple Watch, but if the new model was a hundred dollars cheaper, I'd bite. I wonder if a lot of consumers feel that way.

i quit wearing a watch the day I bought my first smart phone. The phone does everything the watch did and has calendars, notifications, alerts, and phone. Why would I want two devices with overlapping functionality. Would I switch to a Dick Tracy watch, sure if I could ditch the phone. Until then in spite of Apple's desire this is a hobby like the Apple TV.

I think Apple should focus on what people like; iOS and macOS. Today this is the only thing that separates Apple from the competition, no matter how much bling Johny Ive adds.

If Apple continues to make macOS into iOS then even that will start to disappear. Apple is trying anything that will stick to the wall now for innovation instead of just trying to make the best products humanly possible. Tim Cook needs to understand the Apple formula, make the best products and money will come. Right now we have the formula make some products and squeeze the max profit out of our customers to make wall street happy. That is after all how a supply chain guru thinks.
 
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Somewhere in Cupertino, Mac Pro trashcans were seen flying through a window, amidst furious cries of "More watchbands!!! Design more watchbands gosh darnit!!!"
 
This can go back and forth for forever. Mac averages around 8% of entire PC market share.

Not only is the Apple Watch more expensive, but it can also only be used by iPhone users. I mean, come on.

Exactly. I think you're defeating your own argument. All you are doing here is listing reasons why the Apple Watch doesn't sell very well. Its worth noting that several Garmin devices sell at price points in the same region as the Apple watch and they are still experiencing growth.

Its 5% of the wearables market at the moment, sales have been tanking though and it looks to be on course for less than that. Sales down 71% year on year, not pretty..

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It just doesnt have a feature that's a must have.

A lot of the features that people do find useful arent even particularly accurate. If it was, I think it would be somethign that a lot of people would want to use.

But then you have to really ask: how many people have active fitness lifestyles? how many people actually care about how many steps they take? how many calories they burn in a workout?

The segment for these people is quite small. And for alot of the serious fitness fanatics, the watch isnt telling them things they already dont know through the internet.


the watch has no usecase outside of being an efficient pager or notifier of messages.
 
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