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My Garmin Vivoactive costs less than half the price, has 3 weeks of battery life and gives me all notifications and health measure, plus the screen is on all the time. How can you beat that?
 
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And you miss the point. A $100 fitbit is going to have higher market share than a $300+ avg price Apple Watch, so this isn't news. It has nothing to do with bias, it's that the headline is simply a "no $h!t sherlock". A more useful comparison would be a breakdown of how it compares to similarly priced smartwatches, not overall market share where cheaper alternatives always reign supreme.

This isn't a comparison of the devices themselves to make a purchasing decision, so "only one watch is going to be on my wrist" is a moot point.
"based on an estimated 1.1 million shipments, according to IDC. Comparatively, in the year-ago quarter, Apple had an estimated 3.9 million Apple Watch shipments". Imagine "Ferrari" losing the same percentage of sales. I don't care about market share. The number of sold watches is declining. Very far from "the critical mass" acclaimed by some here on this forums. Who's missing the topic point?
 
I see a lot o' panties getting into wads over whether one should compare a Fitbit to an Apple Watch. Perhaps it's due to the poorly written headline. But the real story here is that Apple Watch shipments experienced a YoY drop from 3.9 to 1.1 million. Who cares about Ferraris vs Fords, that's over a 70% drop.


Perhaps if they compared Q2 to Q2 year to year it wouldn't seem so drastic. Q3 was when the anticipation to the new watch coming out was building and people were holding off buying one.

Even as of now, the Series 2 can be hard to buy.

That aside, the wife and I both love our watches and feel naked when we forget them for a day.
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"based on an estimated 1.1 million shipments, according to IDC. Comparatively, in the year-ago quarter, Apple had an estimated 3.9 million Apple Watch shipments". Imagine "Ferrari" losing the same percentage of sales. I don't care about market share. The number of sold watches is declining. Very far from "the critical mass" acclaimed by some here on this forums. Who's missing the topic point?


" Apple addressed those concerns with Apple Watch Series 2, but the second-generation models launched in mid-September and therefore did not have a full impact on the third quarter."
 
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Good, as it should be.

In other news Ferrari trails car market as Ford Focus sales "Reign Supreme"

(Note: This is called a joke for those people who've mathematically tried to work out which car brands are more accurately comparable to the price difference between an Apple Watch and a Xiaomi Mi band...christ)

A joke is when people laugh. Nobody is laughing my friend.
 
Your point is spot on, but don't fall for this click bait. By every estimate, and that's what these are since Apple isn't releasing AW sales, Apple Watch has sold more than every other smart watch combined and owns the market.
And by every estimate, Apple watch sales have been falling YoY once you subtract the initial supply-constrained months.
 
Perhaps if they compared Q2 to Q2 year to year it wouldn't seem so drastic. Q3 was when the anticipation to the new watch coming out was building and people were holding off buying one.

Even as of now, the Series 2 can be hard to buy.

That aside, the wife and I both love our watches and feel naked when we forget them for a day.
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" Apple addressed those concerns with Apple Watch Series 2, but the second-generation models launched in mid-September and therefore did not have a full impact on the third quarter."

There are going to have to be a lot of series 2 watches sold to turn those numbers around.
 
I'm actually falling back in love with my series 1 Apple Watch.

I have a Garmin Vivosmart HR+ that I can't get to tell the right time. Ironic, and kinda funny (although by now wearing very thin) because it supposedly used the GPS system for the time, and it's off exactly 59 minutes from my Apple Watch. EXACTLY. Like just now, I touched my Apple Watch face and it said 3:20, and the Garmin says it's 4:19! (Which, given my time zone, would put me in Bermuda!)

EVERY FREAKING TIME... I even let the Garmin die, and it is STILL off... :rolleyes: I have friends that have killed their FitBits and one person that had the scale, and they could weigh themselves 10 times, one after the other, and get ten different results! Within second of each other!

I hate to say it, but the 'best' fitness tracker I ever had was... Drum roll please... The Nike FuelBand... I never knew what a 'fuel unit' was, but it never missed a beat, and if it only had a sensor for bikes, I'd still be using it.:):eek:
 
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Remove your tin foil hat.

This is the same company that refused to place iPads in competition with "computers" because they were a different device. Basically, IDC/Gartner... "We will game the data to always make Apple look like they are DDDDOOOMMMEEEDDD!!!!"
 
Always makes me chuckle inside when I see tools wearing this atrocity. I love the ceramic 1000$ watch made of only the finest recycled toilet bowls. Victims lol

I have literally NEVER seen anyone wearing one of these in public, and I live in a major city. I called this thing the "iFlop" from the beginning. I mean, it's just such a dumb product. Might as well sell the "Apple Shoe" or the "Apple Toothbrush". A dumb product that doesn't serve any need in the marketplace.
 
Yesterday at the Apple Store, the watch desk was packed, counted three watch sales in 15 minutes. More at the counter appeared knowledgeable about the Apple Watch uses and the benefits. The hot item was the Nike versions. Will see how it all plays out. I use my Apple Watch everday, for me a very useful technology.
 
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"but the second-generation models launched in mid-September and therefore did not have a full impact on the third quarter."

Let's wait to see the impact of Series 2 launch.
 
I just got a Fitbit Charge 2. I don't own an iPhone, but might soon. But for right now, the Charge does as much as I want. No need to run applications on a watch. And I like the 5 day battery life.
 
Everyone knows these aren't flying off the shelves. The fanboys said they'd sell 40 million units last year and I laughed. I admire many things about the watch, but Apple has failed to produce a "must have" device. It's a nice little accessory for a small niche of iPhone owners. Wearables remain largely off the average consumer's radar. The Apple Watch changed nothing.

Yet Apple persists in pushing this vanity project while the Mac rots.
 
It's TOO EXPENSIVE. Fitness competitors sell at 10% to 25% of the cost of the Apple Watch. By the time you have the case and band you like it can be au$1400 or more vs $300 or so for a good fitness wearable.
I also think that the competition do what they do well but the Apple Watch probably needs another generation before it's really good at what it's trying to do.

I don't think it's the price as much as the complexity that turns people off. I think Apple could sell a lot of fitness trackers at $199. I think the watch is too much for most people. They don't want a little wrist computer. They don't want to learn a new UI. Wearables should be simple.
 
Still too expensive IMO. And please sell the watch separately from the bands.
Black Friday should have had the same deals on Series 1 in Canada than in the USA. And Series 2 should also have deals.
If there's a deal online on Boxing Day in Canada, I'll get one.

BTW, will Series 1 be supported with watchOS 4, 5 and 6 considering it has the same new dual-core processor as Series 2 ? This makes me insecure in my purchase.
 
Functionality makes little sense for the price. Once these devices are antonymous and can be connected to the internet without a phone they will probably take off.

I had to wait about a week for my phone to be replaced after it got ran over by the vehicle behind me. I used my Gear S2 as my phone the entire time. It definitely won't replace my phone but, I got by.
 
$250 for a watch and you compare it to a Ferrari. Laughable.

The watch didn't catch on. It's not really what people are looking for. Member the deluge of comments saying this was going to fail? Too redundant, too bulky, too costly. Ferrari pricing and not even as useful as a ford focus considering most people have a Ford F-150 of a smartphone in their pockets.

F-150's are wimpy. Now an F-350 Super Duty......:D
 
Too bad. I traded an Apple Watch Edition 0 for the Apple Watch 2 two months ago and I couldn't be happier. This is from a guy who owns three Omegas, a Glycine, a Mondaine, several Citizen Solar Atomic watches, two Tissots and two Seiko Kinetics.
 
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