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Feek

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I assume you might have been in shock? But you couldn’t use your watch or even Siri to dial emergency?
I assume so, I was out of it. I don't really remember anything between going down and being found.

Ouch!
Not sure how long ago this happened to you, but I’d suggest getting an Ortho to review the bottom 3 screws, as they appear to be long.
The scan you show looks to be sometime post op?
Three and a half years ago. The x-ray was straight after the op and I did question those bottom three to be told they're correct.
 

polyphenol

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I’m stuck at why someone would wear a watch while boxing.
I'd just about come to the conclusion that I was the only one wondering that! (Even if it didn't have fall detection.)

Wouldn't it be banned by the rules? (Asked in utter ignorance.)
 

Expos of 1969

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Was there really a life death situation averted by the Apple Watch? In the second case it’s just that potentially help came a bit quicker. The title seems quite inflated.
Careful with that logical commentary. Such a point of view resulted in me receiving quite a few thumbs down reactions. Incredible how some folks buy into the program...
 
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Robert.Walter

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It's April 24, 2015, and Apple just released the Apple Watch (1st Generation)

Fast forward to today, 2023 - Who would have ever thought Apple Watch would be saving human lives? 😳
We did.

My mom now 90, then 83, agreed to order one on Day One, when I explained 1) she was then older than grandma was when mom made grandma get a life alert, and 2) as I explained it to her she would be able to call for help if she fell but her phone wasn’t at hand, and 3) I expected eventually that fall detection would become automated.

I mostly wanted her to get it for Apple Pay and SOS calling.

Since then she’s happily upgraded to AW3 for cellular and AW6 for pulse OX.

She’s not fallen (she’s into doing squats) but last fall, the automatic pulse monitoring picked up a pleural effusion early that she, with inpatient treatment, recovered from. (I was overseas and flagged by a shared trend change and could see her resting heart rate was 30% above normal baseline.)

Too bad most old folks are old poops when it comes to new tech because this wrist gizmo is a great thing even for them.
 

spazzcat

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I’m quite happy to have this feature set available… however, got a false alert last week while on a lengthy sportbike ride in some very technical canyon roads- the watch (Ultra) was under my leathers, beneath my gauntlet glove and apparently the side button was depressed by the edge of my cuff while I was leaning off the bike in a long high speed sweeper.

Got a few phone calls a few minutes later in my helmet comm from people on my emergency contacts list and one sheriff’s office.

Between the noise and vibrations I never noticed the thing going off, but figured it out. So, I flipped the watch orientation with the crown running inboard… and it happened again. As a result, while I still have fall detection enabled, I have had to disable the ‘push and hold for help‘ feature while riding.
You can try putting the watch in swimmer mode; that stops most issues with I am boxing.
 

Robert.Walter

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I'd just about come to the conclusion that I was the only one wondering that! (Even if it didn't have fall detection.)

Wouldn't it be banned by the rules? (Asked in utter ignorance.)
Maybe wanted to measure heart rate and blood ox during?
 

@Brett

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My Apple Watch Ultra detected me having AFIB about a month and a half ago. This then got me to go to the hospital where they confirmed I did indeed have AFIB which I have not had before. The tech is pretty darn amazing.
 

EJSMD

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I don't dispute that the fall detection on the iWatch has the potential to save lives, but do we actually know that both of these people would have died were it not for the fall detection? The headline seems misleading.
From the news account of the Cincinnati story. https://www.cincinnati.com/story/ne...-procedure-after-smartwatch-call/70188678007/. Gotta figure off-duty police officer would be just as good at calling 911 as the watch ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ --

But as he continued, Fryer eventually realized something was wrong. Fearing he wouldn't be able to finish the walk back to his home, he veered behind some trees away from the path where he said if he were to fall he may be seen by some people out and about. He made it about 30 more yards before collapsing.

"I blacked out because I don't remember going down and hitting ground," he recalled.

He regained consciousness within seconds and noticed an off-duty police officer and her husband who saw him nearby had quickly come over to help. But before they got there, Fryer was already receiving assistance. His Apple Watch had called emergency medical services and he awoke to an operator on the line.

"I rolled over on my back and I could hear the phone asking if it was OK to call for emergency services," Fryer said.

The officer spoke with EMS as Fryer, who had just awakened, listened. EMS responders weren't able to pinpoint why Fryer had fallen. They sent an ambulance and he was taken to Christ Hospital.
 
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npmacuser5

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Unfortunately, I took up boxing and had to turn this feature off.

Edit: I guess it wasn't clear, but when you punch stuff, it will set off this detection and start to call 911, which can be bad when you have your hands and wrist wrapped with gloves on.
One would need some special mental therapy if they used any watches while boxing.True, the Apple Watch senses unusual acceleration. Chopping firewood can cause the emergency question. Technology, no matter how great, we humans need to take responsibility while using.
 
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Robert.Walter

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From the news account of the Cincinnati story. https://www.cincinnati.com/story/ne...-procedure-after-smartwatch-call/70188678007/. Gotta figure off-duty police officer would be just as good at calling 911 as the watch ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ --

But as he continued, Fryer eventually realized something was wrong. Fearing he wouldn't be able to finish the walk back to his home, he veered behind some trees away from the path where he said if he were to fall he may be seen by some people out and about. He made it about 30 more yards before collapsing.

"I blacked out because I don't remember going down and hitting ground," he recalled.

He regained consciousness within seconds and noticed an off-duty police officer and her husband who saw him nearby had quickly come over to help. But before they got there, Fryer was already receiving assistance. His Apple Watch had called emergency medical services and he awoke to an operator on the line.

"I rolled over on my back and I could hear the phone asking if it was OK to call for emergency services," Fryer said.

The officer spoke with EMS as Fryer, who had just awakened, listened. EMS responders weren't able to pinpoint why Fryer had fallen. They sent an ambulance and he was taken to Christ Hospital.

And if Fryer hadn’t made it the extra distance to be seen before passing out?
 

Robert.Walter

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I actually fell down the stairs some weeks ago and  Watch asked me if I’m ok. It took me a while until the pain lessened after I pressed "fell but ok". I wonder if calling for help would have worked with an Austrian iPhone in India.
One thing for sure, no Indian 911 will ever answer your call with “Servus”!
 

spazzcat

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One would need some special mental therapy if they used any watches while boxing.True, the Apple Watch senses unusual acceleration. Chopping firewood can cause the emergency question. Technology, no matter how great, we humans need to take responsibility while using.
Why would I take my fitness tracker off while doing fitness?
 

crsh1976

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I guess I'm just done with extreme negativity. It's exhausting.
Wait, what was it that I said that was extremely negative? Honest question, because I genuinely do not understand how warning against straining emergency services is being negative.
 

Squillace

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I passed out in the bathroom, fell and due to my glass back, broke a vertebrea. If not for my wife hearing me hit the floor, who knows now long I would‘vem been laying there. My Apple watch didn‘t do a thing.
My question might sound stupid but... is the fall detection feature activated on the Watch?
I ask this because in my old Series 5 I turned it off because of my work at the time (I was prone to do weird body movements and didn't want the detection to be triggered) and it wouldn't be hard to just forget about that...

But anyway, Apple is clear by stating that the Watch cannot detect all types of falls.
 

npmacuser5

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Why would I take my fitness tracker off while doing fitness?
Boxing is a unique very contact sport. An opponent night not like your watch scraping their face. Not to mention the possible injuries to the wearer of the Watch. Applies to any contact sport. Have never witnessed a watch on football players, or even basketball players. Plus a fitness watch needs the design features for the fitness being done.
 

spazzcat

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Boxing is a unique very contact sport. An opponent night not like your watch scraping their face. Not to mention the possible injuries to the wearer of the Watch. Applies to any contact sport. Have never witnessed a watch on football players, or even basketball players. Plus a fitness watch needs the design features for the fitness being done.
You know not all boxing is hitting people?
 
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baryon

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Apple really did a great job at making the watch not just a tiny iPhone to wear on your wrist, but something completely different and focused on health. This is more of a "what makes this device worth owning?" rather than "how could we sell another thing to people?" type of thinking.
 
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I7guy

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This is a good feature, with a price for society. It is of course very good to save people's lives, but we should check the numbers .
* How many Apple Watches are worn, how many lives are saved ?
* How many false alarms, what is the cost of these false alarms, for how many lives saved ?

(I don't have the numbers, just saying that we should check that this is a good investment. Maybe with the same amount of money we could save more lives by doing other, less technological things)
Two more determinations are needed.
1. The cost of a human life lost and the direct cost of saving a human life and the benefit of that life to family and society.
2. How many false alarms from all sources

At least in my opinion answering the question is not an easy one.
 
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