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So "fashion" is now supposed to be wearing a clunky ugly watch? No thanks.

The shift towards 'clunky' watches has been going on for years.

Rolex, a company famous for hardly ever changing their designs, increased the size of their popular Submariner in 2010, because the market demanded it. They now make them at 40mm, a size right between the 38mm and 42mm Apple watch.

It is really common for modern watches, even pretty high end > $5000 watches to be far bigger than 40mm these days.

So I'd argue that at 38mm and 42mm Apple have hit two popular size points that is very in-keeping with trends in watch design.
 
The design of the watch is hideous at best. Does not look good at all, that is why Apple is investing so much in campaigns... to convence you.

It looks like a 60's 70's old lady stuff. An ugly retro.

Yes, in your opinion.

I like the design. It's simple and basic, very 'efficient' design. It let's the apps do the 'talking', pun intended.
 
The Apple computers (I, II series)
Lisa
Mac
Peripherals
Software (including OS)
Portable versions of Mac
Professional versions of Mac
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The above are a coherent line of a computer company.
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Then, a couple of forays into PDAs (Newton) and a camera, and a retreat from app software (Claris dropped, FileMaker spun off)

Still, coherent line for a computer company.
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Then, Apple goes from Apple Computer Inc. to Apple Inc., as the iPod, iPhone, and iPad now meant that Apple was now more than a Computer company in the tradional sense. It became a digital device company, and for a while, all the devices really needed a computer home base to be useful, so these had all been computer accessories to one degree or another. Still coherent.
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Then, iCloud and other iOS updates made the base computer less central, the Apple Watch and talk of an Apple car are starting to make me wonder if Apple is a computer company AT ALL anymore. The watch wouldn't be a problem except that the fashion part of it is starting to overshadow EVERYthing else. If this watch is REALLY so life changing, why are fashionistas expected to be able to really assist the consumer as to its use, outside of band selection in the "pop-up" stores? A CAR throws so much more into the mix (and I don't care if it is electric, cold fusion, and can be made with a StyleWriter 3D), we are getting VERY far afield now. What kind of company is Apple now?
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I never identified with the "cool factor" of Apple. I saw some great products, occasional breakthrough software, and often the best option in a PC world. I bought, recommended, administered these devices for other reasons than style. I don't see a coherent identity for Apple any more. I am hopeful that either they buy Tesla but keep it separate from Apple and make the watch business a subsidiary, or just spin off the Macintosh and become a lifestyle company.

I think that given their valuation and stock price right now, the answer to your question is they are a very rich computer company who want to continue to dominate in years to come.

Remember that this car stuff is just rumors, we don't have any facts yet.
 
The more pictures of the watch I see, the more I am thinking it is not for me. I am left handed, but this watch seems to be only for the right handed people. I could not put on something that big on my left wrist and still be able to write comfortably. If I put it on my right wrist the crown will by on the wrong side and make using it difficult.

It works on either wrist. You can turn it around so the crown is facing the other way (it has settings to flip the screen over so it works).


Admittedly, the crown will be closer to your body than the button in that configuration... but I don't think it will be much of an issue...

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Hate to break the news to you but this fashion of wearing hats and leaving the front of your hair out is in the US. One of my co workers wear his hats like that, he's Indian and we live in NY.



I didn't say it wasn't in fashion... just that it's not my thing :)
 
I was never a watch guy anyway, so Im not convinced that the apple watch will even appeal to me. It'd have to do some amazing things for me to be interested. But having to charge it every night just like my phone gives me pause regardless. I definitely won't be jumping on this right away if at all. I can't even see it being a huge hit for apple...but then again, I'm biased not being a watch guy. Maybe Apple will nail the whole fashion angle and people will buy this thing up like crazy. I just don't see it.

One thing I have to hand Apple, is that they've really created an infinite number of looks with all the bands and watch face combos you can do. This is really a first for Apple. To market such an individual look. Usually they don't do that with the look of a product. The individuality came with what you produced with their products. If anything, it's going to be interesting to see the general reaction to the Apple watch.

I am a watch guy and feel the same way. My Citizen SkyHawk was chosen specifically because I'm lazy. It charges itself, sets its own time (via radio), and is waterproof. I havent had to remove the watch from my arm since buying years ago, and I havent had to fiddle with it.

Here comes Apple with a watch that is truly uninspiring, and requires the user to modify their behaviour and routine to accomodate the watch, instead of the watch integrating seamlessly into their life. The only way they can sell it is with this hipster type advertising as a fashion accessory. So I commend them for knowing the market, and how to sell just about anything, as I have no doubt it will sell very well.
 
why not?
Bluetooth 4.0 transmits 24Mbit/s.

Bluetooth LE transmits at 1Mbit/s and I would assume that's what the Watch uses to stay connected to the phone because of battery draw. It would need to then use 4.0 or wifi to use Siri. I don't know enough about the tech to intelligently comment on it though, other than (I would assume) it would need to ramp up the connection when using Siri, that's all.
 
I just don't see the point of a watch at all anymore, let alone a smart watch.

Really, how hard is it to look at your phone for the time?

If I'm in a meeting and pull out my phone, it kind of looks rude. If I glance at my watch the right way, no one will notice.
 
If I'm in a meeting and pull out my phone, it kind of looks rude. If I glance at my watch the right way, no one will notice.

and If i'm hosting a meeting and you pull out your phone, multiple times, I will ask you to leave my meeting (using royal you, not you you)

its not just rude, it's also a distraction that Might have you miss valuable and important relevant information to your job and the project at hand.

if i've invited you to a meeting, I've invited YOU. not the people on your phone.
 
and If i'm hosting a meeting and you pull out your phone, multiple times, I will ask you to leave my meeting (using royal you, not you you)

its not just rude, it's also a distraction that Might have you miss valuable and important relevant information to your job and the project at hand.

if i've invited you to a meeting, I've invited YOU. not the people on your phone.

Well, that's assuming your meeting is not one of those 80% of meetings that shouldn't occur in the first place, or should have a much tighter scope. That's one of the reason people are so inattentive in the first place.

Once you know the meeting is actually needed, only invite people that should really really be there; that usually cuts the number of attendee by a further 50% at least. Then insure good notes are taken and distribute them within 24h to others that should also know what occurred.

When people actually are highly involved in a meeting's proceeding, I found that external distractions are much less an issue. The even actually put their phones away!! Shocking!!
 
Well, that's assuming your meeting is not one of those 80% of meetings that shouldn't occur in the first place, or should have a much tighter scope. That's one of the reason people are so inattentive in the first place.

Once you know the meeting is actually needed, only invite people that should really really be there; that usually cuts the number of attendee by a further 50% at least. Then insure good notes are taken and distribute them within 24h to others that should also know what occurred.

When people actually are highly involved in a meeting's proceeding, I found that external distractions are much less an issue. The even actually put their phones away!! Shocking!!
yeah, there's a problem wiust s lately. So many bloody meetings that are just useless.

we had to pass a company resolution here that any meetings called must have a firm scope of discussion and be properly directed. it got to the point where I was spending 6 hours of my day istting in meeting rooms.

I've already rejected 2 today that were more "lets discuss something". And then spamming the meeting invite to entire teams instead of just the individuals required
 
Of course, in real life...

Most of the displays should not be turned on, so there would be no onscreen personalization visible.

IF guess if you don't mind your watch lasting 6h (my guess for the larger watch face time with minimal other processing going on), they have a setting to keep it on all the time.

So, if your going to a party, it would last till you leave :). Purely for esthetics reason of course.
 
and If i'm hosting a meeting and you pull out your phone, multiple times, I will ask you to leave my meeting (using royal you, not you you)

its not just rude, it's also a distraction that Might have you miss valuable and important relevant information to your job and the project at hand.

if i've invited you to a meeting, I've invited YOU. not the people on your phone.

All that said, I have certain professional responsibilities that trump a meeting I am having. So I may need to excuse myself momentarily under certain circumstances.

Again, and Apple watch may alert me to this, so I won't have to keep rudely checking my phone.

Remind me to be on my best behavior if you ever summon me to a meeting :eek:
 
Too clunky and geeky to be fashion.

I invite you to come back a year from now and retract this statement.

First off, fashion is such a weird concept. Last night I bought some food at a grocery store in Denver. The cashier one aisle over looked like a young white high school kid. I'd guess a part timer making some extra cash while in school.

He was standing there with his jeans pulled down, as was once popular among African American wannabe gangster types.

It looks stupid, is wildly impractical, and the only reason people do it is because they think it is a trend.

So to your point, when people perceive something as fashionable, they will do it no matter how stupid or impractical it might be. Kris Kross used to wear their jeans on backwards, and people copied.

I reject your 'clunky' description, since there has been a huge trend in bigger watches as of late.

Back in 2010, Rolex, a brand synonymous with watches and rarely changing the designs that have spanned decades, increased their popular Submariner watch to 40mm, because that's what people wanted. Some of the less conservative watch makers are exceeding 46mm these days.

I just went to Fossil's website, a brand popular among youngsters who can't afford high end brands, pretty much every watch on their New Arrivals section is around 44mm.

One of my concerns about the Apple watch was that 42mm might be a little small.

As for geeky, there was a time when asking a girl for their email address was considered geeky. I don't think that Apple Watch is going to have the same stigma as Google Glass.

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I find Siri and high quality experience to be an oxymoron at times.

I'm sorry, I do not understand the question. I've found this random collection of websites for you to look at... :apple:

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I am a watch guy and feel the same way. My Citizen SkyHawk was chosen specifically because I'm lazy. It charges itself, sets its own time (via radio), and is waterproof. I havent had to remove the watch from my arm since buying years ago, and I havent had to fiddle with it.

Here comes Apple with a watch that is truly uninspiring, and requires the user to modify their behaviour and routine to accomodate the watch, instead of the watch integrating seamlessly into their life. The only way they can sell it is with this hipster type advertising as a fashion accessory. So I commend them for knowing the market, and how to sell just about anything, as I have no doubt it will sell very well.

I was unfamiliar with that specific watch, so I just Googled it. HOLY SMOKES that's a watch that makes Breitling look plain. Never seen so much stuff going on on a single display!

I disagree that the Apple Watch is uninspiring. In fact I think some of the attentional to detail and personalization ideas are incredible. I've never seen a high end watch where you can easily switch your own strap, remove links without a tool, and customize to that extent. I think from a watch making standpoint Apple have hit it out of the park.

I have a really nice watch, that I really like and cost a fair bit. Yet I am considering leaving it at home all week so I can use the Apple Watch for work.

As for modifying my routine. I have to plug my iPhone and iPad in every night. What's one more gadget? I don't really see that as a huge inconvenience.
 
All that said, I have certain professional responsibilities that trump a meeting I am having. So I may need to excuse myself momentarily under certain circumstances.

Again, and Apple watch may alert me to this, so I won't have to keep rudely checking my phone.

Remind me to be on my best behavior if you ever summon me to a meeting :eek:

Reminder: be on your best behaviour if I summon you to a meeting :p

I'm a techie, I get that there are trumping factors to a meeting. I myself have been in that situation especially for Priority 1 client emergencies.

But what bothers me, is during a meeting if the same few people are sitting at the back of the room, looking at their phones every 30 seconds. typing, texting and the like. They're showing no interest to the meeting.

If I invited you to my meeting, I have a direct need for you to be informed about that meeting (i'm not one of those who just spam invites).

I completely agree that the watch itself HELPS with this. a quick wristward glance to see if there's any pressing notifications. its less disruptive to everyone else involved. And believe it or not. it keeps the person checking their wrist more involved with my meeting
 
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