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Maybe it's because we've never had to charge a watch daily before, so this seems like going backwards.

I personally like my watch battery lasting for years without thinking about it. And honestly I still feel that having to deal with a watch battery every 5 years is too frequent. On that one day I feel annoyed that it's only been 5 years since I popped a 50 cent battery in it.

My favorite watch was a solar one that recharged all day on its own. That watch lasted about 15 years. And it was still a small watch, about the size of 4 quarters in a stack.

I've got a G-Shock Tough Solar and I really like it. And it automatically sync with the Atomic Clock in Denver.
 
Because you are an early adopter and willing to put up with the inconveniences. The majority will complain about this and that and until they are satisfied eg. Battery run time, no one will capture the bulk of the market.

You are so right about one thing: I am an early adopter. :)... If you're familiar with Ev Rogers' work, I'm definitely on the far left side of the chart.

However, I think it is tech reviewers and members of the press who may have fits over battery life more than the average user. It wasn't until I got my first smartphone in 2002 that I suddenly had to worry about battery life. Prior to that, phones often went days without being charged. My old Handspring Visor didn't even need recharging. You just threw in a fresh set of batteries when you were getting low.
 
Still, I'm interested in knowing what that 410mAh equates to in terms of usage time.
 
Still, I'm interested in knowing what that 410mAh equates to in terms of usage time.

It will be determined by what usage you are referring to. If you have your screen on all the time, if you're constantly checking/using fitness tracking, if you're using it as an iPod replacement, etc.
 
This is a fallacy.
iPhones range from $0 on up.
Android phones range from $0 on up.

The $0 iPhone will get you the latest OS (even if some bells or whistles are missing). And you'll get OS updates while the hardware can handle it.
The $0 Android phone may get you Android 4.x. Maybe. Or 3.x. Or 2.x. Possibly 5.x, but it probably can't even remotely handle it. It might get updates, but probably not. Most likely not. Unless you know how to root. Or know what a root is. Or know somebody who knows where to find some roots. "Who needs updates, anyway, you Apple iSheep?!"

The top tier iPhone will get you the latest OS and, of course, many updates.
The top tier Android phone may get you Android 4.x. Maybe. Or 3.x. Or 2.x. Possibly 5.x. It might get updates, but probably not. Most likely not. Unless you know how to root. Or know what a root is. Or know somebody who knows where to find some roots. "Who needs updates, anyway, you Apple iSheep?!"

No cost benefit to Android phones AT ALL, and you suffer the probability of not getting updates.

As for Macs, well, you will pay a bit more up front. But not really that much more, especially mid-tier. My son's MBA 1.4GHz i5 spanks the crap out of every cheap laptop out there. Quad-core Pentiums, Core i3s, and quad-core AMD whatevers... all feel like sluggish nonsense compared to the MBA. Yeah, the MBA ran me $800 (on sale), but I'd rather get it at full price than a cheap $200 - $400 Windows box that just can't remotely keep up.

The "Apple is expensive" argument is really a holdover from the 1990s. Next you'll tell me that Macs have no right click and there's no software to be found.

There's still a ton of people out there that think Macs have no right click, you'd be amazed how many have asked me about this when I pull out my Mac. I also love the 'Macs and iPhones are overpriced' argument, when a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 is $750 retail just like a 6 Plus, and the Dell XPS 15 and Razor Blade are thin, light, powerful laptops clearly inspired the rMBP that cost $2000 just like the mac. Or the $2000 XPS One 27" AIO that only has a 750M.
 
There's still a ton of people out there that think Macs have no right click, you'd be amazed how many have asked me about this when I pull out my Mac. I also love the 'Macs and iPhones are overpriced' argument, when a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 is $750 retail just like a 6 Plus, and the Dell XPS 15 and Razor Blade are thin, light, powerful laptops clearly inspired the rMBP that cost $2000 just like the mac. Or the $2000 XPS One 27" AIO that only has a 750M.

As has been stated earlier by more than a few, premium is a perception. Case in point: Hyundai has entered in to the premium segment with the Genesis and Equus and while they are fine automobiles that have even captured some former Mercedes and BMW (I know a few personally), that doesn't necessarily make Hyundai a premium brand. Solid yes. Reliable yes. Great warranty. But still overall not a premium brand.
 
“Luxury” and Android don’t go together. Android is for the masses that want cheap products.

It’d be like Chevy touting “luxury” in an entry level car going up against a Lexus.
 
“Luxury” and Android don’t go together. Android is for the masses that want cheap products.

It’d be like Chevy touting “luxury” in an entry level car going up against a Lexus.

You keeeeeeeep on telling yourself that.
 
“Luxury” and Android don’t go together. Android is for the masses that want cheap products.

It’d be like Chevy touting “luxury” in an entry level car going up against a Lexus.

Your analogy falls a bit short since you can't throw up an entry level car from a mass market brand against an entire premium brand. However if you were to pit the Chevy SS against a comparable Lexus GS you might have more a point.

I have been eating of the Apple fruit since the rainbow days of the late 1980s (MacPlus in the house!) But your assertion that Android cannot be equated with luxury sounds embarrassingly uninformed! The Vertu example is an excellent one. But I'll go a step further and say Sony still considers itself to be a premium brand much in the way Apple does and their phones use Android OS.
 
luxury combines tech.... I like it....

What it can do, (I'm not interested in that part), but just the look of it.
 
“Luxury” and Android don’t go together. Android is for the masses that want cheap products.

It’d be like Chevy touting “luxury” in an entry level car going up against a Lexus.

Then what does that make the iPhone since it is the #1 selling phone in the world?
 
“Luxury” and Android don’t go together. Android is for the masses that want cheap products.

It’d be like Chevy touting “luxury” in an entry level car going up against a Lexus.

You can thank Apple marketing for that. Apple has the perception of luxury thanks to their sleek, contemporary, and smooth designs. Android run smartphones on the other hand can have rather clunky and unintuitive designs.

Does Apple use different kinds of metals, glass, or internals against other smartphone makers? Better quality elements?

At the bottom of it, they're all mass produced in a Chinese factory. Hardly luxurious, IMO.
 
It doesn't matter. You could see a homeless person with a Louis Vuitton bag.

A person could have an iPhone today, and be homeless tomorrow, and still have their phone.

Wrong, a homeless person with a LV bag is using a $20 fake, big difference
 
Yeah round is not the way to go for a smart watch, and metal doesn't automatically make anything better. It's a horrible design. Period.

It really is insane to make these things round in the first place.. It reminds me of making viny paneling look like wood because of tradition or perceived consumer acceptance.

Design rule number 1 : Form follows function.
Which is precisely why traditional radial analog watches are round.
Making a computer display round, or making it metal does nothing necesarily to forward function on smart watches.
 
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All this bickering over nothing. Fact is apple products are a way for the "ordinary consumer" to feel good knowing they are buying what is being marketed as a premium product.

Considering premium cars are at least $10,000 just buy having a name, (look at the cheapo BMW's out these days), apple products at least have a "slight" $200-300 brand markup on phones and perhaps $500 on a laptop.

It's why so many girls wear channel earrings. Same concept.
 
It will be determined by what usage you are referring to. If you have your screen on all the time, if you're constantly checking/using fitness tracking, if you're using it as an iPod replacement, etc.


Manufacturers always have a protocol to give an indication of real life usage time. Or just give standby time. The likely reason they only gave the battery capacity was because of embarrassingly poor run time.
 
Gee - I guess you know nothing about R&D, production timelines and dare I say - reality. You may not like their designs, features, or OS. But you can't possibly be serious that you think they can create a smart watch out of thin air in a few months.

You are right, I don't know much about R&D, to be honest I know nothing at all. But I have used one of these so called smart watches (galaxy gear) and also have played with some others. With all seriousness, you use that product and try getting the impression that they have worked on it for years? Not a freaking chance!! Sometime the quality of the product does reflect quite well the amount of work and time dedicated to it, even to someone like me who doesn't know anything about R&D. Lot's of these smart watches scream "Rushed to be the first"
 
The person who came up with "Urbane" as the name for this smartwatch should be forced to wear a mullet for the rest of his/her life.
 
What did you have for a solar watch?

Honestly I can't remember. It was the 80's and it lasted through the 90's. And sometime in the early 2000's I parted with it. Visually it looked much like a standard Casio in silver and black. Except that it had a small solar panel on the face. And it would dim slightly if you covered the panel, but it ran forever before it died.

It's one of those fluke things you found in a store and turned out to be better than expected. Back then there was always something new and it was either a gimmick or it worked.
 
as a matter of fact i don't own any sammy stock. and i did not call any "Apple fan/consumer dumb" i just stated a well known fact, that there are more dumb people than smart people. and by you not knowing the difference, you showed everyone here which side of the scale you are on:eek:

We all know what you meant and I only had to look at your last 15 posts to realize you are an Android owner and Apple basher. Why are you here? Just to troll?
 
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