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Phil stands out like a blue sore thumb, in a sea of fashionable black.

There's lots of pretentious people in fashion, and lots of them wear black. Phil is just being normal, and not putting on some "fashion act" to impress them; when has Apple ever felt obliged to "fit in"? Keep the casual shirt, Apple folks - you've got more respect from me.
 
Yeah I do find it odd that he'd show up to an event like this in jeans and tennis shoes. Even Tim Cook has started to dress 'up' a bit.

And don't get me wrong, I understand his desire to be comfortable. I dress like a slob most of the time, but I don't have much money or a job so it doesn't matter. But Phil, baby come on.
 
Dont get me wrong, I have ordered one, I love the product from what I've seen, just charging $17k for the Edition doesn't make it luxury, just expensive.

I'll await the backlash..... but remember - it is just my opinion ;)

Don't deny it, if you ran a business selling popular products and you knew you could get away with charging $17,000 for something (that may seem minuscule to select consumers) because you know you have the demographic for it, you would.
 
Yea, that was Jobs' normal dress.

No, the rest of the time he wears a custom designed turtleneck made exclusively for Jobs by one of the most famous haute-couture designers : Issey Miyake. You can't buy them anywhere.

You could probably ask him to make you a few. It might cost you more than the equivalent of a few gold aWatches however.
IF he accepts to do it.

He also died just before being able to test his "humble" new yacht designed by another most famous french designer : Philippe Starck.

You guys who keeps wanting to think of Jobs as some sort of homeless scruffy dude are deluded. He was an elistist in every sense of the term. Not in the sense of class separation, but in the sense of demanding the best, and wanting to make the best everything, no matter what it costs, and no matter what it costs to the consumer ( and a lot of people critisized him for that ).
 
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And don't get me wrong, I understand his desire to be comfortable. I dress like a slob most of the time, but I don't have much money or a job so it doesn't matter. But Phil, baby come on.

I still haven't figured out the tuck vs untuck. At the March event it was tuck in and wear a belt day. Unless it's just how he feels on the day?
 
I totally understand why many "Fashion" items do this.
As they are inherently useless, even not that well made, and they simply need to do this type of thing, to generate hype over what it in reality a weak product if you looked at it with a critical eye.

Apple should not feel so uncertain about THEIR product.

I don't think they needed to do any of this, and many would have far more respect for them if they focused on what they are good at, making great products, and not stooping down low like they are.

They should be proud of what they have made, not have to resort to gimmicky tricks to hope and pray they can make themselves look cool.

I honestly don't think they need any of this, and if smacks of weakness and uncertainty in yourself to feel you have to do any of this.

Basically that are admitting, we think this will fail, unless we do all of this.
That's a bad sign to give off.

So, the watch is not for you, get it.

But, what personal loss or gain do you have for not being capable of just ignoring it?

Impossible to like everything companies do and who are we to tell them what to do?

While we have opinions, we can't stop what fields they go into.

I'd like a 17" MBP, they won't make it any more. I'd like to be able to upgrade them myself, no longer possible.
I would like a wireless keyboard with numbers attached, a better Apple TV etc.etc. , but I won't have my panties in a twist, just because they are now spending their effort and concentrating on a watch for a while.

Besides that the jury is still out about it's usefulness and what can be done with it eventually.
For all we know this will be the Dick Tracy watch and then some.

Don't think the people at Apple are dumb and for sure nobody cares if you respect them or not for whatever reason.

It's all about $$$. Look like they are doing just fine in that department.
 
It doesn't matter HOW. It's just becoming THE watch to own. Sorry.

*The* watch to own? There are a couple of caveats to that. It may be the SMART watch to own...

1.) If you have an iPhone 5 or newer

2.) If you have at least $350 burning a hole in your pocket

3.) If you don't mind owning a gen-one product that could be obsolete and no longer receiving software updates from Apple within 36 months or less

I love Apple as much as the next guy; but the Apple Watch is far from *the* watch to own. You'll have a hard time convincing many people who are happy with their Timex and Casio watches that they need to own the Apple Watch.
 
Schiller looks like a slob who spends his time coding and eating Doritos.

I'd much rather look like Phil Schiller than this:

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It's pretty depressing to read stories about all these celebrities who have to show off that they have an Apple Watch, to see that Apple is catering to these people, and to know that there are many in the public and media who are eating it up.
 
It's THEIR product, they can dress how they like. The world leader in consumer technology doesn't need something as superficial as a smart suit to get the attention of some pretentious, changeable "fashionistas".

"You want our product or not?" clothing is irrelevant, and I think you're all getting a little bit carried away and distracted by it. So what? They own this space, forget the clothes, that's how it is - no problem :)

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Schiller looks like a slob who spends his time coding and eating Doritos.

I'm extremely pleased not to be your friend... or, should I have written, "friend".
I'm glad he's comfortable in how he dresses - people who judge by looks are laughable in their naivity, and have many BASIC life lessons yet to learn, sadly.
 
No, the rest of the time he wears a custom designed turtleneck made exclusively for Jobs by one of the most famous haute-couture designers : Issey Miyake. You can't buy them anywhere.

You could probably ask him to make you a few. It might cost you more than the equivalent of a few gold aWatches however.
IF he accepts to do it.

He also died just before being able to test his "humble" new yacht designed by another most famous french designer : Philippe Starck.

You guys who keeps wanting to think of Jobs as some sort of homeless scruffy dude are deluded. He was an elistist in every sense of the term. Not in the sense of class separation, but in the sense of demanding the best, and wanting to make the best everything, no matter what it costs, and no matter what it costs to the consumer ( and a lot of people critisized him for that ).

Think of him as you see fit. I really don't care about how much he spent on Levis and turtlenecks. My point was there are many instances where he did not dress respectfully and others are saying Phil didn't dress properly here. Carry on.
 
In fashionspeak, Phil's dress really says "I'm not like you."

He's not part of the fashion tribe, he's part of the bay area software tribe. He'd look ridiculous in a zoolander-style outfit.

It's called "being authentic."
 
Do you really, honestly, hand on heart feel Apple had to do this, to try and make their watch be a successful product?

You feel all this needed this to be done to try and not have it fail for them?

Please explain why you feel that a marketing strategy is a sign of desperation.
 
Im glad he has the balls to dress how he wants and not care what others think. If they judge him on his attire they will miss out on what he has to offer; which is way beyond how he dresses.
 
Interesting that Kevin Lynch is nowhere to be found at these types of events yet he has been the sole face of the Apple Watch demos at two of Apple's events now.

Edit: Nevermind. I just read Lynch's CV. No wonder he hasn't shown up at events like this. He's the former CTO at Adobe. CTO types don't often mix well with press and fashion types, I wouldn't think. I find it interesting that they put him in charge of Apple Watch software development.
 
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Im glad he has the balls to dress how he wants and not care what others think. If they judge him on his attire they will miss out on what he has to offer; which is way beyond how he dresses.

But you see, he was at a marketing event specifically designed and targeted at people who DO care about fashion and how they and others look. I'm not saying those people are right or wrong for being oriented that way, but he undermines the event showing up dressed as if he is giving them the finger sartorially. Since he is the marketing chief, he comes off more than an little tone deaf.
 
I'd much rather look like Phil Schiller than this:

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It's pretty depressing to read stories about all these celebrities who have to show off that they have an Apple Watch, to see that Apple is catering to these people, and to know that there are many in the public and media who are eating it up.

This is lazy pop culture criticism. I think it's extremely smart — and arguably, necessary — for Apple to be courting the fashion industry.
 
But you see, he was at a marketing event specifically designed and targeted at people who DO care about fashion and how they and others look. I'm not saying those people are right or wrong for being oriented that way, but he undermines the event showing up dressed as if he is giving them the finger sartorially. Since he is the marketing chief, he comes off more than an little tone deaf.

nah I dont agree. Fashion is what you are not what someone else says.

And i'd be more concerned with this as you put it he's the marketing chief

Interestingly, as the Watch is displayed at the Carlo e Camilla in Italy, pre-orders for the wearable aren't available to Italian customers due to Italy not being included in the first wave of launch countries for the Watch. There to experience the event is senior vice president of worldwide marketing at Apple, Phil Schiller, and Marc Newson, who works part time at Apple as a designer alongside Jony Ive.

Turns up at an event where the watch aint for sale. Great. I wonder as the vice president of marketing how he deflected that question or he just shrugged and said 'do you like my outfit, I chose it specially... and I'm just the VP take it up with the president'
 
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