Except I have no time for patent holding companies who merely buy up patents with no intention of ever implementing them, which stunts progress, just so they can pounce on any company seeking to actually produce something.
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Apple Watch Infringed Masimo's Pulse Oximetry Patent, US Judge Rules
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I also bought a device that does exactly the same as Masimo's patent, cost me $6.0. There are hundreds of Pulse Oximeters out there, some have been around for almost 50 years. Takuo Aoyagi developed the first one in 1972 (patented in 1974) which was I believe before Apple or Masimo existed. In his first device that too used light using the radio of red to infrared absorption in pulsating arterial blood.
Patents were issued by two companies in 1974. Takuo Aoyagi patented on behalf of Nihon Kohden (March 29, 1974) but almost the same time through their own research a patent in was submitted by Akio Yamanashi on behalf of Minolta (April, 1974). The idea apparently coming to them independently of each other.
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Can't we all just get along companies trying to help people what's so wrong with that .
Surprising though that the first of the patents issued which related to Masimo's watch was U.S. Patents: 6822564 which was only patented in 2003 with a raft of other patents for the watch coming later.
Covered by or for use under one or more of the following U.S. Patents: 6822564, 6850787, 7295866, 7355512, 7373194, 7377899, 7467002, 7471969, 7865222, 7880606, 7988637, 7990382, 8046040, 8185180, 8190223, 8203438, 8265723, 8280473, 8337403, 8353842, 8405608, 8414499, 8457703, 8483787, 8498684, 8532728, 8560032, 8570167, 8626255, 8652060, 8676286, 8718735, 8790268, 8847740, 8892180, 8929964, 8983564, 9084569, 9113832, 9131882, 9131883, 9167995, 9192329, 9307928, 9370326, 9549696, 9636056, 9675286, 9724016, 9724024, 9775570, 9808188, 9814418, 9839381, 9848806, 9861305, 10064562, 10092200, 10098550, 10194847, 10219746, 10433776, 10595747, RE47218, RE47882, 10582886, 10588553, 10588554, 10610138, 10617338, 10624563, 10624564, 10631765, 10687745, 10758166, 10912501, 10912502, 10945648, 10959652, international equivalents, or one or more of the patents referenced at www.masimo.com/patents Other patents pending.
Covered by or for use under one or more of the following U.S. Patents: 6822564, 6850787, 7295866, 7355512, 7373194, 7377899, 7467002, 7471969, 7865222, 7880606, 7988637, 7990382, 8046040, 8185180, 8190223, 8203438, 8265723, 8280473, 8337403, 8353842, 8405608, 8414499, 8457703, 8483787, 8498684, 8532728, 8560032, 8570167, 8626255, 8652060, 8676286, 8718735, 8790268, 8847740, 8892180, 8929964, 8983564, 9084569, 9113832, 9131882, 9131883, 9167995, 9192329, 9307928, 9370326, 9549696, 9636056, 9675286, 9724016, 9724024, 9775570, 9808188, 9814418, 9839381, 9848806, 9861305, 10064562, 10092200, 10098550, 10194847, 10219746, 10433776, 10595747, RE47218, RE47882, 10582886, 10588553, 10588554, 10610138, 10617338, 10624563, 10624564, 10631765, 10687745, 10758166, 10912501, 10912502, 10945648, 10959652, international equivalents, or one or more of the patents referenced at www.masimo.com/patents Other patents pending.
While patents should be enforced and Masimo isn't a patent troll, I believe in general that patents are too long and too broad.
Likewise and where some patents seem to get granted that shouldn't with proof of "prior art".
They had such an agreement, before Apple decided to steal both their technology and people.
IF you had that patent THEN you’d go broke WHILE trying to defend it.
Apple has also previously sold Masimo products in their store. I have a finger pulse ox from Masimo that I bought directly from the Apple Store with a gift card I was given.
Doesn't seem to be anything listed on their site at this time but it was definitely there ~2 years ago.
Doesn't seem to be anything listed on their site at this time but it was definitely there ~2 years ago.
I have a feeling Apple is going to do whatever it takes to prevent an import ban.
I'd be shocked if they used anything from Apple.
Their W1 health monitor watch is nothing like an Apple Watch. Being square-ish is the only resemblance.
It's a health monitor... the "watch" portion is just a clock. There are no "smart" features beyond health tracking.
Masimo W1 Sport Health Watch - Advanced health tracking wearable with FDA-cleared module; Includes one year Personal SafetyNet subscription ($100 value for $50). Limited time offer. | Personal Health - US
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Agree nothing should be banned that helps people, but they should pay something if they really did use their work
Poaching employees is not illegal or unethical. It actually respects the employees net value as a creator.
Poaching doesn’t happen if the current employer takes very good care of an employee financially and professionally.
If an NDA or non-compete is in place and the employee violates it that’s on the employee. (Non competes are going to be throttled back by the FTC as anti competitive but they won’t apply to all employee classes, so this change might not apply here.)
If you want to protect your IP against poaching, patent it, try to use a non compete agreement, but best of all respect and well compensate your IP rainmakers.
As for the IP thief, you may be thinking of Anthony Levandowski who left Waymo to start his own company in part with stolen Google IP.
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Nonsense.
These companies actually add value to IP and help sustain the patent creation process.
A patent is a patent and must be respected whoever created or owns it.
The line that you are embracing only benefits companies who infringe patents and then try to artificially somehow distinguish between legitimate and illegitimate patents on the basis of who currently owns them.
Former Masimo employee (and former Apple employee) was sued and lost in court for misappropriating Masimo's patents, including the one used by Apple.
Masimo Wins Ruling Vs. Apple Ex-Employee - Orange County Business Journal
Masimo Corp. (Nasdaq: MASI), an Irvine-based medical device maker, said it won a ruling against a former employee who took trade secrets to Apple Inc. The United States District Court for the Central District of California ruled that Marcelo Lamego, who served as chief technical officer at...
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And what exactly do you propose mods should do if someone blindly defends Apple? Revoke their membership? Put them in timeout? Do you feel mods should step in when someone blindly attacks Apple?
As far as I can tell, the point of the site is to discuss, debate and imagine all things Apple. People's opinions of Apple (or in general) shouldn't be governed by mods. When people attack each other, that's exactly when mods should step in. Otherwise, have fun and discuss amongst yourselves. I believe in us.