Clearly you didn’t read the posts between your post and the story before making up your numbers. Seems more like 99% of the people posting before you blindly disparaged Daddy Apple.
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Apple Watch Infringed Masimo's Pulse Oximetry Patent, US Judge Rules
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They just got a patent upheld and you're now trying to claim they may be using Apple patents? Wow...
The outcome of this was never really in doubt. Anyone who works in the medical device field knows that the patents held by Masimo are solid.
Apple needs to be taught a lesson that they can't steal others IP, integrate it into their products and then cry foul and simply weasle their way out of it and pay a miniscule fine.
They need to be hit in pocketbook with a ban and a fine.
They need to be hit in pocketbook with a ban and a fine.
Agreed
Seems to be a bit of a trend here .. first the noise cancellation stuff, now the pulse oximetry stuff here ..
Not a good look for the most valuable company in the world with crazy product margins and ever increasing prices.
Pay for the rights to things you want to use Apple! -- stop stealing and then paying "wrist slap" penalties.
I thought this feature was really cool on my AW7. If its stolen though, well… not so cool then.
LMAO likely they will.
Even an appeal on this one I think Apple will loose, or may not even try. They'll most likely settle out of court with a lump sum + perpetual yearly fee for a 10yr payment done annually. The books will show this but not isolated.
Agreed. In fact many Apple fans speak of Apple's mantra of refining new tech and make it easiest to use and implement.
Good find!
Pulse Oximetry Company Masimo Wants the Apple Watch Series 6 Banned
Medical device company Masimo is embroiled in an ongoing legal battle with Apple over several of the health capabilities available in the Apple...www.macrumors.com
Fun to look back at this thread for all the comments saying Masimo is wasting their time trying to sue Apple.
^ Man that's gotta sting Tim Cook something painful.
Not really. Masimo's motive here is compensation. They ask for the ban so that Apple will play ball if they prevail, and Apple will either play ball or remove the technology. Most likely they'll negotiate a settlement with Masimo and end users will see no interruptions in availability - at least not due this lawsuit.
Remember the guy that claimed "invented" film screen protectors for mobile devices because he had an obscure patent for protecting the screen of his fish finder, and kept harassing everyone buying (or even making their own for personal use) screen protectors in the forums of all the mobile device enthusiast sites? Larry something or other. He was a hoot.
They don't need to "produce" anything but the IP. They can then license it to whomever they wish, at whatever price they can negotiate for it.
You're treading on real shaky ground when championing taking away someone's right to their inventions/implementation of an idea just because they don't have a production line.
So....scorched earth policy, where nobody wins. Got it. This is pretty out of touch with reality and totally disconnected from anything that could be good for either company. The ideal for Massimo is that they get fair compensation, if they are indeed in the right, not to curb both benefit to Massimo should the prevail AND the availability, progress, and future invention of technology products that literally millions of people benefit from every day.
This is great news! Why innovate when you can bury a smaller, more innovative and agile company in litigation. Apple, and Google among others, were once innovative companies that built products that enriched our lives. Now, both are shells that push products to exploit and monetize its users. Simply, Google steals confidential information while Apple’s racial, gender, and sexual politics is Cook’s passion. The App Store and iTunes are relics of a once enjoyable experience. Today, both are a chaotic and bloated mess. All companies are destined to fail when they place a higher priority on revenue than innovation and customer service. We are talking about authenticity that waved bye-bye to Apple ten years ago. Cooks idea of innovation is a bigger camera, and more LGBTQ wallpaper & emojis. Huge difference between Jobs and Cook.
This is not a reflection on Masimo or anyone else its more a reflection now of how patent rules have become almost untenable. Take a look at some of the patents or even on the Masimo watch...With that amount of patents flying about for the one item, its bound to cause crossover and the same with other manufacturers. Remember too when the Oximeter was invented....way before any of the Masimo patents. Not aiming at Masimo, Apple too where they will drop a tonne of bricks on anyone either breaching their patents or indeed the hint they may be in breach of their patents which is enough to frighten off many newcomers. Patent rules need tightening up, with some patents granted that seem to ignore prior art.
Their application for certification is still pending in the FDA database.
Given their track record with FDA approvals, I don't see any reason why the W1 wouln't get certified.
The white paper for the W1 is an interesting read. They do some comparisons with Apple Watch on accuracy readings.
FDA certification? So health insurance companies can use this device to monitor health, hence apple sells them to health insurance companies to give to their clients. That's how it works paid advertising; FDA get millions (apple)to put their FDA certified on it
You think the FDA get paid for paperwork? No.
Firstly, there is no such thing as FDA Certified. There is Approved, Cleared and Authorized. Apple has 3 approvals from the FDA. For the heart rate counter, the aFIB detection and one for rate analysis. The AW is cleared for non-diagnostic patient use.
you're funny. you don't recall years ago when apple watch linked itself to FDA and the doctors? If you are not in the sector health profession field you wouldn't know... So Yes they get paid.