Hmm, that is pretty interesting. Thanks for highlighting.
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Apple Watch Infringed Masimo's Pulse Oximetry Patent, US Judge Rules
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Masimo is far from a patent troll. Its tech is used in hospitals in the US, Canada and Middle East. It absolutely dominates pulse oximetry in NICU.
Source: when my son was in the NICU, I just got talking with the doctors and the nurses there.
This is far from over and not even close to the last level of courts that will have decision making authority over this.
Pulse Oximetry Company Masimo Wants the Apple Watch Series 6 Banned
Medical device company Masimo is embroiled in an ongoing legal battle with Apple over several of the health capabilities available in the Apple...www.macrumors.com
Fun to look back at this thread for all the comments saying Masimo is wasting their time trying to sue Apple.
The concept of patent on an idea or a concept of how you could do something is absurd.
But disabling a feature means Apple will have to refund every Watch sold with said feature, so they’re probably not going for that option 🤔😅
I think you misunderstand what monopoly means. There are many pulse oximeters in the market...Masimo's is allegedly the most accurate. This is apparently more relevant in NICUs cause babies movements normally dislodge the oximeters, thus pushing wrong readings which in turn will prompt doctors to increase oxygen supply which in turn will lead to blindness in babies. Masimo's oximeters are super accurate even in these cases promoting many hospitals to opt for them in their NICUs.
Against the will of the employees, obviously. Grow up and welcome to the real world.
Or maybe they can find some way to slightly "nuke it", like they did with the AirPodsPro/Max noise cancelling.
The ANC works maybe 70% as well as it did on my APMs vs when they were new (I've tried new ear pads)
They sneakily hired employees. Lol. Whatever. Patent system is a mess and very possible apple infringed which is a low bar but them complaining that apple took away their talent is just too funny. You don’t own your employees. Apple loses talent every day.
Masimo's blood oxygen products are used by almost every single modern hospital in the United States.
The interesting part is that the claimed 5 patents and the other 4 were cleared. You can patent a specific method for implementing an idea, but not the idea itself.Pulse Oximetry Company Masimo Wants the Apple Watch Series 6 Banned
Medical device company Masimo is embroiled in an ongoing legal battle with Apple over several of the health capabilities available in the Apple...
Fun to look back at this thread for all the comments saying Masimo is wasting their time trying to sue Apple.
Robert Reich presented an interesting view about non-compete clauses: that they are in a sense involuntary servitude. He writes:
I agree with him on that. To me, rather than viewing non-compete contracts as legally valid (as if legal is the highest form of -- what -- standard? Ha!) let's think moral ethical here. I think from a particular ethical perspective, non-competes ties down individuals in ways that restricts their use of their own skills and talent elsewhere.
I am confused.... Rockley Photonics were public-ally touted as the supplier of the Sensor for the blood oxygen saturation sensor. I believe they provided this to Apple.
Shouldn't it be them that is sued ? Maybe the current sensor is an apple home grown one.
Related articles for future watches.
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Shouldn't it be them that is sued ? Maybe the current sensor is an apple home grown one.
Related articles for future watches.
Wanted: an oxygen monitor reliable for all races
Medical device makers and scientists are working on new technologies to improve widely-used devices that assess potential heart and respiratory problems given mounting evidence that current ones could lead to inadequate healthcare for patients with darker skin.
Apple Watch could get blood sugar monitoring thanks to a UK tech deal
Apple is now known to have a deal that could bring blood sugar monitoring to future Watch models — a significant help to people with diabetes.
www.engadget.com
In my opinion they stifle the patent process. if you add up the cost of litigation. How many new companies with what they think is a great device or invention are too afraid to bring it to market. No I stand by my comment. if a company has produced something with its IP then fair enough, but these companies whose only mode is buying up patents, some really old just to litigate...not right in my opinion.
The problem is that there are so many patents, sometimes for the most obscure functions, that a company could theoretically be in breach for many things. If you look at the number of patents that apply to the Masimo watch it gives an idea of how extensive and difficult it is not to breach patents, and where some patents appear to be granted even with 'prior art' existing.I'd be shocked if they used anything from Apple.
Their W1 health monitor watch is nothing like an Apple Watch. Being square-ish is the only resemblance.
It's a health monitor... the "watch" portion is just a clock. There are no "smart" features beyond health tracking.
Masimo W1 Sport Health Watch - Advanced health tracking wearable with FDA-cleared module; Includes one year Personal SafetyNet subscription ($100 value for $50). Limited time offer. | Personal Health - US
Masimo Personal Healthwww.masimopersonalhealth.com
Hope your son is feeling better and out of there!
BTW the apple watch oximeter , at least on my watch ,doesn't work that well: several times I got that couldn't measure because of insufficient data: my oxygen ?! 🙃
It's funny how people pile on someone like Masimo for protecting their IP...
Do you have any idea what kind of blood sucking hound dog legal armies Apple would unleash on someone even breathing in the direction of their IP?
Do you have any idea what kind of blood sucking hound dog legal armies Apple would unleash on someone even breathing in the direction of their IP?
The problem is that patents appear to be issued for so many functions its almost impossible not to theoretically breach a patent. Even the Masimo watch isn't governed by one patent:I'd be shocked if they used anything from Apple.
Their W1 health monitor watch is nothing like an Apple Watch. Being square-ish is the only resemblance.
It's a health monitor... the "watch" portion is just a clock. There are no "smart" features beyond health tracking.
Masimo W1 Sport Health Watch - Advanced health tracking wearable with FDA-cleared module; Includes one year Personal SafetyNet subscription ($100 value for $50). Limited time offer. | Personal Health - US
Masimo Personal Health
- Covered by or for use under one or more of the following U.S. Patents: 6822564, 6850787, 7295866, 7355512, 7373194, 7377899, 7467002, 7471969, 7865222, 7880606, 7988637, 7990382, 8046040, 8185180, 8190223, 8203438, 8265723, 8280473, 8337403, 8353842, 8405608, 8414499, 8457703, 8483787, 8498684, 8532728, 8560032, 8570167, 8626255, 8652060, 8676286, 8718735, 8790268, 8847740, 8892180, 8929964, 8983564, 9084569, 9113832, 9131882, 9131883, 9167995, 9192329, 9307928, 9370326, 9549696, 9636056, 9675286, 9724016, 9724024, 9775570, 9808188, 9814418, 9839381, 9848806, 9861305, 10064562, 10092200, 10098550, 10194847, 10219746, 10433776, 10595747, RE47218, RE47882, 10582886, 10588553, 10588554, 10610138, 10617338, 10624563, 10624564, 10631765, 10687745, 10758166, 10912501, 10912502, 10945648, 10959652, international equivalents, or one or more of the patents referenced at www.masimo.com/patents Other patents pending.
Some patents even seem to be granted where 'prior art' should preclude the patent.
Either way in this case I'd rather see Masimo and Apple working together as Masimo have the direction that many devices will be going, i.e. health
Well, it would seem it's OK if Apple does it, but not if anybody else does it to them
Apple should be forced to stop selling all products affected, completely removing them from sale until court cases are completely finished.
Apple are getting to big for their own boots.
Actually loved it when they were forced to settle with Qualcomm and then forced to use their tech because Intel modems were so crap.
Apple are getting to big for their own boots.
Actually loved it when they were forced to settle with Qualcomm and then forced to use their tech because Intel modems were so crap.
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I wonder if Fitbit also infringes on these patents as well? They have blood oxygen sensors as well.
Didn't know that, here across the pond it is all Siemens/Dräger/Philips. But it still doesn't mean their 'watch' is a medically certified monitoring device. Philips makes patient monitors that are medically certified, but their CPAPs (you know from the foam-gate) aren't allowed for medical diagnostics.