Apple Watch iPhone Companion App Reveals New Details About Upcoming Wearable

[Tech198]

i hate to admit it, but is Apple being starting to introduce apps, u just don't need ...

I admit I do use most of the pre-installed apps,, or even the usual default section is always good but having a app on a phone by default u cannot even use unless paired with a smart watch u will be never wearing...... I say, this app should of just been downloadable and not preinstalled.

While most other apps, u can use "out of the box" anyway, or to some extent...

Give users a choice.....

I really don't wanna be on the edge here, but something tells me Apple will probably start bundling ore and more apps on the by default on iOS in the future, that requires something else to use.

I sure hope Apple is playing it smart..

They don't have all the cruft of mobile carriers on, but that doesn't mean Apple themselves should load it up either. I know its early stays still, but i may as well get in now

 

[teslo]

Bit ironic that you complain about having to learn how to use the features on a smartwatch and then complain about other people having to learn the associated term.

no. i was remarking on how i didn't want useless extra settings in my phone. which is relevant to apple's recent forced bloatware expansion. nothing to do with the complication of said watch. you misread that entirely.

 

[jlake02]

I'm really interested in playing around with the Watch but have zero interest in wearing a watch in general, sadly.

 

[usarioclave]

How long did people keep their iPhone 1 or iPad 1? They were quickly superseded and obsoleted by far superior products. You could rock a 3GS for years and people are still using iPad 2s in the millions.

Having bought both the iPhone 1 and the iPad 1, I can say that they were both great to use and own. I sold my iPhone 1 for basically what I paid for it when the iPhone 3g came out. My iPad 1 continued on until the end of 2013, when I traded it in at target for $200. The iPad 1 was going strong as an iMame and all around tablet until it was replaced.

So really, there's no financial risk associated with first-generation apple devices. Rent them, then sell them on eBay. There will be hundreds of thousands of people who will be willing to buy it at a used price, just to see what the fuss is about.

 

[Natzoo]

nice apple

 

[69Mustang]

And I thought I was picky.

You're not picky... most of the time. In this instance, I have to say I agree with this:

Originally Posted by inscrewtable
Jonny Ive made a big deal about researching and respecting the tradition of the watch so it's a bit rich to rip off the word 'complications' and apply it in such a trite way to something that is in reality just an image of a complication. 'Complication', always referred to the ridiculously complicated extra mechanisms that only the greatest of the master watchmakers could build. Often they were frivolous in practice but impossibly beautiful in execution.

Now it's just a few lines of code that gets the epithet.

Any one with horological sensibilities may take offense to the use of complications to present an image of temperature or a stock quote. Complications in the classic sense are an expression of the watchmakers talent. Horological complications are considered an artform and, imo, Apple's use is a debasement. Just my opinion. Others may differ.

Examples of horological complications.

 

[teslo]

Having bought both the iPhone 1 and the iPad 1, I can say that they were both great to use and own. I sold my iPhone 1 for basically what I paid for it when the iPhone 3g came out. My iPad 1 continued on until the end of 2013, when I traded it in at target for $200. The iPad 1 was going strong as an iMame and all around tablet until it was replaced.

So really, there's no financial risk associated with first-generation apple devices. Rent them, then sell them on eBay. There will be hundreds of thousands of people who will be willing to buy it at a used price, just to see what the fuss is about.

tech-heads can't wrap their tech heads around the fact that more people don't own iPads than do. you're exactly right, most elderly or parents-buying-for-their-kids will go for the very cheapest deal, as do many others who don't have disposable income. i still randomly see plenty of iPad 1s out in the wild.

 

[Snowshiro]

I've been working as a developer on Apple Watch for the last few weeks for a major retailer. Frankly it's a piece of crap. Don't expect much from third party apps at launch.

Right now, with the available APIs, it's comically limited with what you can do. Layout of UI elements, despite the tiny screen, is like writing web pages in the mid-90s when browser technology sucked. While Android wearables are running full apps and even games like Flappy Bird, Apple Watch is basically just a tiny screen and nothing else. Nothing actually runs on the watch itself - it's just a small screen to display apps that have barely any more functionality than the stuff you find on the Today notifications screen on your phone.

 

[teslo]

Horological complications are considered an artform and, imo, Apple's use is a debasement. Just my opinion. Others may differ.

in my opinion you can admire the beauty of hand-crafted and STILL not have to change the name of their new incarnation simply because the same hands-on technique wasn't used. they're still complications by definition. why change it? why make it so generations from here on out refer to complications by the wrong name?? i don;t get it. this isn't a matter of 'honor' or cheapening anything. complications are what they're called.

calendars used to be handcrafted and intricately beautiful........ so were cameras. and actual desktops(!)

yes, by all means, rename everything so no one knows what anything is anymore. simply because.... uh.... why again?

 

[Defender2010]

I've been working as a developer on Apple Watch for the last few weeks for a major retailer. Frankly it's a piece of crap. Don't expect much from third party apps at launch.

Right now, with the available APIs, it's comically limited with what you can do. Layout of UI elements, despite the tiny screen, is like writing web pages in the mid-90s when browser technology sucked. While Android wearables are running full apps and even games like Flappy Bird, Apple Watch is basically just a tiny screen and nothing else. Nothing actually runs on the watch itself - it's just a small screen to display apps that have barely any more functionality than the stuff you find on the Today notifications screen on your phone.

...and how is this bad? It's a damn watch! What are you expecting? It's to give notifications and measure fitness. I really don't know what you want! I doubt you really are a developer for a major retail store either.

 

[Julien]

Which would be great if this were being marketed in the 16th century.

It is still used today. Should Apple change the word? Should Apple change the word watch? What about changing band? Those have been around a long time. Maybe Apple should change their name since Apple has been used for a long time. Do you want all words changed because they have been used before?

 

[teknikal90]

$349 sport model
$399 large sport model

$499 Apple Watch
$549 large Apple watch

$1099 Apple watch edition
$1199 Large Apple Watch edition

all will have 4gb storage across the board. Edition will come with 8gb.

you heard it here first.

 

[dav1dd]

I'm really interested in playing around with the Watch but have zero interest in wearing a watch in general, sadly.

I am in the same boat. I'm intrigued by Apple's latest device - what it is and what it can do; indeed, what potential it has - and while I'd like one, don't really want one, either

 

[robogobo]

But...

Wait for ALL the bugs.

...In addition to the bugs that won't be fixed yet from 10.10 and ios 8. It's all nice to get excited about the watch, but I could wait a while longer so they can SLOW DOWN and fix what we have now.

 

[Tech198]

Why would u wanna play Flappy Birds on a watch anyway ? regardless of screen size.

your arm will get tired before u do.

 

[teknikal90]

Why would u wanna play Flappy Birds on a watch anyway ? regardless of screen size.

your arm will get tired before u do.

i would hate for them to put games on the watch. the whole point of the watch is to get people off their phones by giving them all the relevant info at a glance.

making people preoccupied on the watch would mean theyre now getting sucked into their watch, phone and PCs!

 

[IJ Reilly]

Any one with horological sensibilities may take offense to the use of complications to present an image of temperature or a stock quote. Complications in the classic sense are an expression of the watchmakers talent. Horological complications are considered an artform and, imo, Apple's use is a debasement. Just my opinion. Others may differ.

Everybody has a subject that can readily whip them into a fit of righteous indignation. As someone who rides more than their share of hobby horses, I'd be the last person to deny anyone that pleasure. So I will take a little perverse comfort from someone taking up arms (so to speak) against Apple's appropriation of the concept of "complications," and also be thankful that I am sufficiently ignorant on the subject to not care at all.

 

[69Mustang]

in my opinion you can admire the beauty of hand-crafted and STILL not have to change the name of their new incarnation simply because the same hands-on technique wasn't used. they're still complications by definition. why change it? why make it so generations from here on out refer to complications by the wrong name?? i don;t get it. this isn't a matter of 'honor' or cheapening anything. complications are what they're called.

calendars used to be handcrafted and intricately beautiful........ so were cameras. and actual desktops(!)

yes, by all means, rename everything so no one knows what anything is anymore. simply because.... uh.... why again?

Pedantically speaking you are correct. Following those lines, everything the iWatch does beyond telling time is a complication. So do we start calling watch apps and notifications complications as well? They fit the technical definition. I mean, what about the future generations?

Bolded: A little hyperbolic don't you think? No one is suggesting anything as silly as that, but a little circle with a 72 inside of it is...

Hey, our opinions differ. It's all good.

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Everybody has a subject that can readily whip them into a fit of righteous indignation. As someone who rides more than their share of hobby horses, I'd be the last person to deny anyone that pleasure. So I will take a little perverse comfort from someone taking up arms (so to speak) against Apple's appropriation of the concept of "complications," and also be thankful that I am sufficiently ignorant on the subject to not care at all.

Me and horology:
/mounts horse
/grabs lance
/gallops toward windmill

 

[kdarling]

Is aluminum and Ion strengthened glass more expensive than stainless steel, sapphire and ceramic?

"Ion glass" is just another term for materials like Gorilla glass.

It's Apple's way of sounding cooler.

Kind of like the way they use "fluoroelastomer" instead of "synthetic rubber".

 

[Dezryth]

should we call spoons something else? how about 'watches' themselves?? that's an old term that predates this nasty awful 'complication'! let's call em WRISTIES!

does anyone think the term 'complications' will be a turnoff to anyone looking to buy an apple watch? wtf is wrong with you guys lol

"I was going to buy an apple watch but I'll wait until they sort out the complications."

 

[IJ Reilly]

tech-heads can't wrap their tech heads around the fact that more people don't own iPads than do. you're exactly right, most elderly or parents-buying-for-their-kids will go for the very cheapest deal, as do many others who don't have disposable income. i still randomly see plenty of iPad 1s out in the wild.

You could find one in daily use here. It still works fine, so what are you going to do?

 

[RickInHouston]

i hate to admit it, but is Apple being starting to introduce apps, u just don't need ...

I admit I do use most of the pre-installed apps,, or even the usual default section is always good but having a app on a phone by default u cannot even use unless paired with a smart watch u will be never wearing...... I say, this app should of just been downloadable and not preinstalled.

While most other apps, u can use "out of the box" anyway, or to some extent...

Give users a choice.....

I really don't wanna be on the edge here, but something tells me Apple will probably start bundling ore and more apps on the by default on iOS in the future, that requires something else to use.

I sure hope Apple is playing it smart..

They don't have all the cruft of mobile carriers on, but that doesn't mean Apple themselves should load it up either. I know its early stays still, but i may as well get in now

If apple doesn't pre-install the software as a constant reminder for you to buy a watch, what's the point? Free in your face advertising is all it is.

 

[technosix]

I think they should find a different word to use than 'Complications'

They're posturing.

It's vernacular from the ultra luxury hand made timepiece craftsmen. Apple's simply trying to impress and hype. Nothing wrong with that.

True enthusiasts won't be fooled, it's still a digital gadget.

 

[Rogifan]

I've been working as a developer on Apple Watch for the last few weeks for a major retailer. Frankly it's a piece of crap. Don't expect much from third party apps at launch.

Right now, with the available APIs, it's comically limited with what you can do. Layout of UI elements, despite the tiny screen, is like writing web pages in the mid-90s when browser technology sucked. While Android wearables are running full apps and even games like Flappy Bird, Apple Watch is basically just a tiny screen and nothing else. Nothing actually runs on the watch itself - it's just a small screen to display apps that have barely any more functionality than the stuff you find on the Today notifications screen on your phone.

Hmm...the WSJ has a complete opposite view.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/how-apple-watch-could-spawn-the-next-billion-dollar-startups-1421022204

I’ve seen some of the applications that will launch for the Apple Watch when it makes its debut as early as March, albeit in simulation, and some are extraordinary. Along with the details Apple has already released about how the watch will work, it’s convinced me Apple Watch will be a launching pad for the next wave of billion-dollar consumer-tech startups.

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"Ion glass" is just another term for materials like Gorilla glass.

It's Apple's way of sounding cooler.

Kind of like the way they use "fluoroelastomer" instead of "synthetic rubber".

Or the way most tech sites use the word polycarbonate when referring to a plastic cased phone.

 

[newagemac]

I'm not sure what dissapoints me more, that someone thought of implementing this or that someone might actually need it.

You would be surprised at how few times people who work in an office actually stand up during the work day. It's a pretty significant health issue.