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I think it's interesting that the sport bands always come with two band sizes. It sounds like there will be a market for selling or trading those extra bands people will have that won't fit them.
 
Most designer watches cost at least this much if not more and only tell the time!

Oakley makes watches that are $800+.

It's not cheap but the Apple Watch is a steal considering it's functionality.

They might only tell time but they will probably last a lot longer than the Apple watch.
 
At these prices you'll file personal bankruptcy trying to keep your Apple Watch updated if you want anything more then aluminum!

This is one day I'm happy to have an Android phone and already have a nice smart watch (LG G Watch R) that I can actually afford to update.

The lower models are priced similar to the current offerings including the g watch r.

The 10k is a joke that only morons will buy to show off really. The lower priced ones will sell well I'm sure.
 
Now that I've had a few minutes to think about it here is how I break down the pricing tiers.

First, forget the Edition. That is not meant for the average person and let's be honest, it's a status symbol. So forget about the Edition. Nothing about that price is meant to be practical or "worth" it. When talking about the pricing this category really should be ignored.

The Sport is probably the category most people will find themselves in. We're talking about new technology that we aren't even sure we need or want. Of course the same was said of smart phones a few years back. How much are consumers going to want to spend on something they are unsure of? Time will tell. But I think at $350 people aren't going to lose their minds.

The Watch with the link bracelet is the one I like. At first I thought the price was crazy but then I got to thinking about it. At $949 for the 38mm model $449 of that is for the bracelet alone. Obviously leaving $500 for the watch itself. $500 for a stainless steel piece of really cool technology doesn't sound that outrageous. An iPhone, which we replace on yearly or bi-yearly cycles, costs $649 for a 16GB.

So what I take away from all this is to make sure you are considering that the bands/bracelets on some of these represent a significant portion of the price. And a steel bracelet doesn't need the latest software to run as intended and it doesn't have a battery that will eventually stop working. So as long as the bands will fit with any potential new model then that price can be a little easier to swallow. Plus there will be third-party bands popping up all over the place so those will be an alternative to the "expensive" ones that Apple is offering.

This is an interesting way to look at it although I'm not convinced the bands will fit the next version and the one after that etc. But as you say lots of other third party bands will be around and to be honest may look as good as say the link but without the price tag.
 
Rampant seppuku is comical.

This whole "it'll be obsolete in a year" is hyperbole. The best Apple TV you can buy was last updated 3 years ago, and it still does everything I need an Apple TV to do. Could they update the hardware so it can do even more? I suppose. But do they *need* to, or is the hardware servicing the majority of the user base and still able to run software updates?

Ok then.

No reason to think the Apple Watch isn't running hardware that'll last several years. It's designed to provide a specific niche of functionality. Unlike a smartphone or a tablet or a computer that's continuously being pushed to its maximum, you're not going to be watching 1080p video on your watch. It's highly unlikely the hardware will need to be radically refreshed anytime soon.

I wish the price were a little bit lower on the midrange model, but it's Apple. No, this won't "bomb." No, it won't fail. Yes, the prices will be reduced a bit after it's been out and the initial purchase surge decreases.

If it's too expensive for you to buy into, then... don't. Wait for it to drop. The first iPhone was too expensive for me to buy into. I didn't get one until the iPhone 3g - after they lowered the prices, added 3G service, and added the app store. That didn't stop people from buying the first generation model at $600 a pop, which was unheard of at the time for a cell phone.
 
Will future Apple Watches fit 1st generation bands?

If that were the case, you could at least feel better knowing your pricey stainless steel band will last for a while, whereas the watch itself--like any electronic--will become obsolete within a few years. It would also make "refreshing" your watch more affordable.

The more I think about this the less likely I think they might fit because the watch itself will become a lot thinner and I'm sure its form factor will change.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtBpZltfR7o

Someone should have showed Tim this. This basically explains the problem with iWatch right now. Eventually iWatch is going to be a very successful product for Apple, but right now the product has very little purpose. As Steve said, "In order to really create a new category of devices, those devices are going to have to be far better at doing some key tasks."

So what should an iWatch do? Well for one, It should be better for mobility and fitness. The issue here is that it has to be connected to an iPhone for many of the health features. Obviously the watch would be superior to the phone when going for a run, but I can't exactly leave my phone behind. Also it's short on fitness features and it lacks water resistance. Basically, it's not really much better for fitness than an iPhone right now.

An iWatch should also be better for payments because it's always strapped to your wrist and out. Being strapped to your wrist also makes it inherently more secure. The issue here is that I'm unaware of a single place in my area currently accepting Apple pay.

An iWatch should be better for home automation because, once again, it's always strapped to your wrist and out. It's better for all types of keys (car keys, house key, mail boxes, etc).

The issue is that while apple is headed rather quickly in the right direction, they aren't quite there yet in really any of these areas. They've had great hardware and software for a while but the way they are beginning to connect everything is a really big step. You see it all coming together very clearly with things like the iWatch, HomeKit, Apple Pay, the continuity features, iCloud, etc. Basically for this reason I'll probably pass on the first generation and opt for a 2nd or 3rd generation iWatch. This particular version just can't offer me the features that I believe give a smart watch purpose.
 
Apple watch is disappointing in some sense..

let alone the price, just tell me one thing that an apple watch can do, which phone iPhone 6 doesn't.

Be reminded that, you need to use your watch ALONG with your phone. If i can take the phone and get the job done, why would i need a watch ? There is an app for everything, you can even track your heart rate using your phone. I'm expecting someone show me a great app that use the watch to do sth which cannot do with my iPhone.

Say, tracking bloody glucose and blood pressure 24/7. i wouldn't mind to spend another few hundreds on 3rd party apparatus like strap or whatever make it happen. People wouldn't mind to pay hefty price tag, but please give me a reason other than "made by apple"
 
A good idea would be to buy the sport edition and wait for third parties to make there own steel watch bands. It is bound to happen sooner or later.

Tempting, but I think I'll hold onto my Pebble Time Steel reserve spot.

They have a target market for each category of watch:

Sport - Anyone who can afford one
SS - watch & apple enthusiasts
Edition - people who don't look at the price tag of anything.

They look real nice I must say, I would be happy with a 42mm SG Sport edition.
 
This whole "it'll be obsolete in a year" is hyperbole. The best Apple TV you can buy was last updated 3 years ago, and it still does everything I need an Apple TV to do. Could they update the hardware so it can do even more? I suppose. But do they *need* to, or is the hardware servicing the majority of the user base and still able to run software updates?

Not much has changed as far as downloadable video or video streaming to require an updated AppleTV. Bluray players are BluRay players. That tech doesnt evolve nearly as quickly as phones.


No reason to think the Apple Watch isn't running hardware that'll last several years. It's designed to provide a specific niche of functionality. Unlike a smartphone or a tablet or a computer that's continuously being pushed to its maximum, you're not going to be watching 1080p video on your watch. It's highly unlikely the hardware will need to be radically refreshed anytime soon.

Well, its up to Apple. The iPad mini update that essentially added Touch ID and minimal display updates seemed superfluous but Apple justified it. I don't see why they wouldn't feed a growing market if they thought they could sell more devices.

You have to remember that Apple is getting into the smartwatch game later than the rest of the industry. They want to come in and say they are instantly the leader. But they will have Samsung, Sony, Pebble, Asus, and LG all making updates and improvements on their lines. Will Apple sit on the status quo and let all of these other companies make improvements while they sit on the same watch for three years? They said a 5" phone was too big and waited. When they released it, a lot of people who went to Android came back, myself included.

They won't sit on this single model for very long. Expect rumors by end of summer.
 
Even more happy with my Pebble Steel now. 7+ days of life. Limited functionality, but matches my needs.
 
I was really hoping for a last minute announcement that they had snuck in an on-board GPS. I didn't expect it, but I could hope.

Alas, I will be waiting for the second gen model I guess.
 
let alone the price, just tell me one thing that an apple watch can do, which phone iPhone 6 doesn't.

Be reminded that, you need to use your watch ALONG with your phone. If i can take the phone and get the job done, why would i need a watch ? There is an app for everything, you can even track your heart rate using your phone. I'm expecting someone show me a great app that use the watch to do sth which cannot do with my iPhone.

Say, tracking bloody glucose and blood pressure 24/7. i wouldn't mind to spend another few hundreds on 3rd party apparatus like strap or whatever make it happen. People wouldn't mind to pay hefty price tag, but please give me a reason other than "made by apple"

dude its a gadget.
 
I still want to know if I can go for a run without my phone and the watch track my steps. I know the watch needs the phone for the most part but I do not want to have my phone and the watch when I run or bike. I have not seen any solid information that supports this either way.
You don't bring your phone with you on the bike? That's borderline dangerous considering how far away from civilization you can get on a bike.
 
that's the point

I get that the pricing on the high end stuff just isn't aimed at me, but I think the reason we have $100,000 watches is because they maintain their value for those who already have too much cash money. They don't get outdated. The battery doesn't die after 10,000 charges or whatever...but i see no reason for those type of consumers to try this. A few will, some celebs will...But we all know that version 2 will be less expensive and have better specs. It'll be thinner and have more battery...right?

I also can see how the device can do so much more than one might think. But the ricing really needs to come down - which it will after a version or two.

Hummmm...


No bad but I'd rather wait for version 2.
 
The Edition is just a JOKE going up to $17K in pricing!!! Anybody buying the Edition is either too stupid and naiv or has way too much money and in both cases deserves to get robbed of their apple watch!

Now to the apple watch in general, the only version i really like is the 42mm SS version with link bracelett that goes for $1049.

Considering that the apple watch is nothing more then a fancy remote/extension for an iphone, these prices seem totally ridiculous!

Most of the functions of the apple watch are also available on the iphone anyway and paying much more then the cost of the iphone for an remote/extension that is not even that pretty IMO is really a far fetch.

I rather spent my money on a classy TAG Heuer or Omega watch that I can still use for a long time!

I'm really curious how well the apple watch will sell, because i think this time apple landed a bust with the apple watch... Time will tell ;)
 
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