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All very valid and respectable points.

My beef is that that these differences aren't relative to anything other than the amount of exploitation undertaken (huge amounts at these price levels, and you're probably part of an exploit if you are going to own an iWatch), but it's way more complicated than that and this isn't the place to be somewhat stupidly voicing my opinion. But not much else really happens anywhere, so oh well. :)


So the only way someone becomes wealthy is by exploiting others?

LOL
 
The only way to be wealthier than others is to take money from them directly or indirectly. So yes.


Wow.
Take a basic economics class.
The world GDP has increased. It has not stayed the same.

Anyway that's ok, dont. Situations such as this is what the ignore function is for.
 
Wow.
Take a basic economics class.
The world GDP has increased. It has not stayed the same.

Anyway that's ok, dont. Situations such as this is what the ignore function is for.

That's because global population has increased. I'm a professional investor, you take advanced economics classes.
 
So the only way someone becomes wealthy is by exploiting others?

LOL

No, no. Money is inevitable and thus so is working to earn it. The only way to get LOTS of it, and the reason that 80% of all the worlds money is owned by less than 10% of the global population is because of exploitation. I live in the part of the world that fuels the major majority of the western worlds alkaloids (narcotics) and working amongst this, it's just one avenue of realisation of just how messy and orchestrated everything is trying to be. My thoughts are that if this is the case, then it should be to benefit everyone, and by enclosing the minds of the masses in a treadmill like economy limits this resolution. At the moment you have a lot of people living with their next paycheck in mind solely, and a complete lack of care about helping anyone other than the themselves - by boosting the digital counter that is their bank account to buy the swankiest items. I just think it's sad and the only reason anyone doesn't is because they are distracted beyond realisation.
 
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Anyone spending over $1000 on a second hand watch, IMO, is as foolish as someone spending the extra $3500 for something a bit more narcissistic, I mean it offers literally nothing extra.
The illusion of hard work you must have, earning that kind of money, is laughable to me and very hurtful to most of the conscious beings on this planet.
I guess the fight for equality between these people literally blinds them to the global economy. Shameful behavior, but each to their own I guess and most of us capable of reading this are just as guilty. Lets just hope karma is real.

Sounds like you are envious of people who are able to buy things that you can't afford or deem extravagant. That's a terrible quality to have.

What if these people spend $1000 or $3500 on something deemed narcissistic in your book but also give away 1000's to charity?
 
Wow.
Take a basic economics class.
The world GDP has increased. It has not stayed the same.

Anyway that's ok, dont. Situations such as this is what the ignore function is for.

Take a chill pill. No one is being negative to you so why have you become so snappy? I don't believe you're an expert on the subject and if you are, I don't believe educational accreditation means anything much, so whatever man, props to you. Plus you've succesfully undermined it by completely missing the consequences of the subject you have studied. So props to you again. You can ignore all you want, but that just stops you from learning, and thus advancing.

LOL

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Sounds like you are envious of people who are able to buy things that you can't afford or deem extravagant. That's a terrible quality to have.

What if these people spend $1000 or $3500 on something deemed narcissistic in your book but also give away 1000's to charity?

Whilst I of course have lust for the lifestyle of a lottery winner, the free time I have whilst still owning literally everything I've every desired (it's transitional, so I'm still collecting I guess..) is pretty much as good. But it's kind of sickening. Once you get here, there's not much at all left except to look out of our manicured fish tanks looking at a struggling world full of people who are only every marginally happy. Empathy is a rare trait, unfortunately. The angst I have is not because I don't live an easy life, I do. My angst is generated knowing that that is at the cost of so many.
 
extravagant

If only you knew just how extravagant I am, you'd feel like the thriftiest, worst dressed kid on the block.

That's a terrible quality to have.

I don't disagree, however you misread reality my friend, and that is by far, the epitome of worse.

but also give away 1000's to charity?

Keep trying then, because it's not working. But thanks none the less.
 
I'm not telling anyone to buy anything btw, I'm just saying that it's foolish and narcissistic and I can't see how anyone would think that's a good thing. And if they do, I just don't think they've really thought about it that much.

It may be be foolish for someone who was cursed with not being a fool.
 
There is absolutely no way in the world that I would ever pay $5000 for a watch that:

1. Is the first gen of its kind.
2. Will be outdated within 6-12 months.
3. Can't even talk on the thing for a phone call.

There is absolutely NO way. For this price, you could easily purchase a Rolex or Omega. You would literally have to be filthy rich or crazy or both to spend that kind of money on an iWatch.

Apple must have been drinking something when they reported the price for this watch.

Once again, this product was never aimed at you. Apple know that there are plenty of very wealthy or rich people for whom $5000 simply isn't an amount of money they would give a second thought to. These are the kind of people who buy a Porsche 911 and think nothing of paying $4000 to add LED lights and a sunroof (I just looked it up, that is the cost of those two options!).

These same people would wander into an art shop and buy a sculpture they liked and put it in some obscure corner of their house and never think of it again.

These are not people who have to weigh buying a cheap used Rolex or an Apple Watch. For the type of people who will purchase a gold Apple Watch, they are literally picking a color they like, the $4500 price difference simply isn't a factor in their decision making.

People keep posting from their own perspective, and they need to think out of the box and imagine that there exists in the world many people in the world who are not like them.

I'm certainly not wealthy, but for me choosing the $500 version over the $350 option isn't something I'd lose any sleep over or give much thought to. $150 isn't a big deal.

Someone who makes 10 times what I do isn't going to sweat $5000, if they prefer that a color, or if gold has some cultural or personal significance to them.

For me personally, even if I had just won that $321m MegaMillions draw the other day, I have no interest in the gold one. I don't like rose or yellow gold personally.
 
Gold is tasteless? Don't underestimate the capacity for clueless.

Gold in this capacity is tasteless. Tiffany ring, tasteful. Gold Apple Watch with a 3 year lifespan, yeah, about as tasteless as gold iPhones. That was my freaking point.
 
Feel free to build your own mechanical watch!

Just a quick question, have you ever looked inside a watch and seen how complex the movement is?

You are trying to compare a complex in house mechanical movement of a Rolex to a cheap circuitboard in an Apple watch, and justify it with the metal the watch is made of :rolleyes:

If you knew anything about Rolex's you would realize that the stainless steel ones are most desired. Try to find a Rolex SS daytona is a shop..... its a cheap one, should be easy right???

Your Rolex paperweight will appreciate in value, while your Apple paperweight will depreciate at a rapid rate each time the model is replaced by a new one.

Not to mention, you cannot allow water on an apple watch.....what a joke, while rolex has a diving watch good for 3900m, I think Rolex knows a hell of a lot about watches mate ;)

No offence, but you really have no idea what you are talking about. Your opening remark about your rolex being a paperweight, clearly demonstrates that. I guess its just a brand for you, and your do not appreciate what a good swiss mechanical watch really is.....

Do Rolexes change the time automatically for Daylight Savings time or when you travel across time zones? Just something simple and very valuable to me.
 
The sport version should have GPS or it's useless. The only reason to get the watch as a sports device is to stop carrying your phone when working out...or running or cycling.

As a fashion piece sure but as a sport watch no way. In the end I'll just get a running watch. The rest was just fluff to me...nice fluff but not at the expense of functionality

I think you missed the4 part where the Apple Watch Sport does everything both other Apple Watches do. Most of those features do require you to carry an iPhone but again, when aren't you carrying it besides during running. All other exercise usually requires an iPhone anyway and there's nothing stopping you from carrying your iPhone while running except a compulsion to wear a watch instead of carry an iPhone. So you're ditching one device for another which is more of a lateral move than an upgrade. Why not just carry the phone and smart watch together like you would be for the rest of the day anyway?
 
The most annoying thing in this forum is the closed reality in which most of the users here live in.

The Apple Watch starts at just 349$ which is good price for this kind of advanced technology and beautiful design. This is the Apple Watch for the most users.

Then imagine, just imagine! There are people who can buy stuff for 4.000$ and absolutly DONT CARE if it will be outdated in few years. Yeah, the same people that buy Luis Vuiton or Prada hand bags that cost almost the same and in just few years may or may not look like a trash, because no matter how much care you have, it will certanly lose most of its shinens. There are people who spend 4.000$ to go for a one week vacation. There are people who spend that kind of money just to celebrate their birthday for example and there are people that spend that kind of money before you take your first cup of coffe. Yes, there is a market for expensive stuff, because if you earn 500k a year, you dont care if your silly 4k$ watch is not going to work within two years. These same people have several high end expensive watches and absolutly DONT CARE to have a gold Apple Watch just for the fridays or while jogging. And yes, they DONT CARE if you think they look silly changing their Hublot with a gold Apple Watch for daily use, because they are rich, and you are poor. The gold Apple Watch will be absolute hit in the high-end market where the people dont have to chose between buying Rolex or gold Apple Watch, they just buy both. Finally, I know you would be probably shocked but many people dont chose what to buy depending on the resell value they may get in the future.

Im going to NY in April so I hope the Apple Watch is released by then and I can buy it cheaper that here in Spain.

An even better comparison is Vertu. A company that releases luxury mobile phones at high prices that will become obsolete or are already obsolete. Do people buy it? Yes they do.
 
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If everyone here simply posts what they want and feel appropriate to buy I will judge those the lists and get back to you. I am the center of the universe of course. if you want things I cannot afford, or do not want, you are arrogant, foolish or have ZERO compassion for those in need today and throughout the annals of history. So basically you are a huge jerk and should be ashamed and keep your opinions to yourself. Nobody care what you want, as it has been stated, your are a jerk, and and a braggadocios show off. If on the other hand you are not willingly to, or financial blessed to be able o purchase things on my list, and criticize those things you are petty, financially challenged,(most likely due to extreme laziness), or have your priorities skewed. As you probably have deduced by now, I am the center of all common sense on all things, the Guru of Normal if you will.

In conclusion, Jesus loves all of you but I'm His favorite.



So send your lists to www. Idon'tcareI'mrightyourwronggetover yourself.com and I'll have one of my minions get back to you.
 
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You have a "Gold Colored" iPhone. If you have an iPhone made of gold? Yes, tasteless.

Ah, thank goodness it's ok with you. I was losing sleep over that.

For some reason, I thought "taste" was based on how something appeared to others visually so it didn't matter if it were real gold or not. How would you know if someone had a REAL matte gold iPhone to make them feel bad about it?

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If everyone here simply posts what they want and feel appropriate to buy I will judge those the lists and get back yo you. I am the center of the universe of course. if you want things I cannot afford, or do not want, you are arrogant, foolish or have ZERO compassion for those in need today and throughout the annals of history. So basically you are a huge jerk and should be ashamed and keep your opinions to yourself. Nobody care what you want, as it has been stated, your are a jerk, and and a braggadocios show off. If on the other hand you are not willingly to, or financial blessed to be able o purchase things on my list, and criticize those things you are petty, financially challenged,(most likely due to extreme laziness), or have your priorities skewed. As you probably have deduced by now, I am the center of all common sense on all things, the Guru of Normal if you will.
In conclusion, Jesus loves all of you but I'm His favorite.

So send your lists to www. Idon'tcareI'mrightyourwronggetover yourself.com and I'll have one of my minions get back to you.

Of course the irony of your statement is that it makes you sound like you are superior to everyone else so you are no better than the people you criticize. The only way to win this game is to say nothing at all.
 
Ah, thank goodness it's ok with you. I was losing sleep over that.

For some reason, I thought "taste" was based on how something appeared to others visually so it didn't matter if it were real gold or not. How would you know if someone had a REAL matte gold iPhone to make them feel bad about it?

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Of course the irony of your statement is that it makes you sound like you are superior to everyone else so you are no better than the people you criticize. The only way to win this game is to say nothing at all.


Are you sure that saying I'm the center of the universe makes me sound like I think I'm superior to all of you. Sorry, I just don't get that at all from this indisputable fact.
 
My guess is it will be Apple upgradeable. It looks very modular.

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We can only hope but I seriously doubt it. Cook is all about the numbers and upgradability reduces the units sold by extending the useful life. Apple thrives and banks billions due to their rapid innovation which makes their new products make their older ones feel really old pretty quickly.

Apple innovates quickly so I fully expect the Apple Watch to be refreshed on an annual or close to an annual basis to encourage people to upgrade often. If they don't I would be highly surprised.
 
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