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Does this mean that things are going to start moving faster and that shipping times will improve? Almost placed an order for a space grey Apple Watch Sport the other day, the only reason I didn't is because I can't be bothered with waiting until July. If I can get one earlier than that, I'll happily purchase...I think. I'm in the 'can't knock it until you try it' frame of mind right now. I wanna try the damn thing in a real world scenario, but at minimal cost.
 
i'm glad i cancelled mine.... would rather wait until 38mm is 2-3 weeks or fewer. If there is a larger quality as u say there is, then it should be no problem.
 
Although, I'm seeing shipping dates estimates of 1-2 weeks on the Australian Apple Store for the 38 BSB
 
Obviously it can always grow but that takes a lot of time. If you honestly believe America has the labor force, machines, ect to handle somthing like the iPhone then LOL to you.
Terry Gou once said "Hungry people have clear minds". The main reason we don't make things in the U.S. has nothing to do with shortages of machines or people.
 
Apple dropped the ball on this one. They probably didn’t expect as many orders that they’ve received and at the same time ran into production issues. I think they will do an automatic credit of $100 back to everyone who purchased within the first 2 weeks, if not that then something else to appease their customers because it’s the right thing to do and they can afford it. But that’s just my speculation and wishful thinking.
 
You can google it... It's a thing, it's taught in marketing 101 and it works - especially for a company like Apple. Am I positive Apple is using this as a marketing tool for selling the watch? - No, but I'm reasonably sure, because this sure smells like it.

Like I said, let's just see what mix of watches is available in the coming weeks... and let's see how easy it is to get one at the end of June.

You'll be amazed.

Your understanding on how supply and demand works is incorrect. Apple wants to sell as much of their product as possible so if they were to control the supply or decrease the supply when the demand stays insanely high there’s only one outcome we can expect, and that is fewer sales which is against what their goal is.
 
Why have stores if you don't have the product on hand? One of the first rules of sales is to ~never run out of stock, or you lose customers (or at least that sale).

Apple's starting to remove the advantages of "immediate and personal," and turning it into "order online and wait!"
 
I don't think people outside the Watch forum even realize how bad it really is; Apple still hasn't fullfilled the first 9 hours of pre-orders from the first day of pre-orders...five weeks ago. Think about that for a while.

My bet is that Apple just didn't bother making very many of them because they had no idea how many they were going to sell!
 
Judging from comments here, by the time Apple have shipped all the watches which were ordered, they'll be tons of them in the wild.
 
Apple dropped the ball on this one. They probably didn’t expect as many orders that they’ve received and at the same time ran into production issues. I think they will do an automatic credit of $100 back to everyone who purchased within the first 2 weeks, if not that then something else to appease their customers because it’s the right thing to do and they can afford it. But that’s just my speculation and wishful thinking.

The problem is they haven't let anyone down until the product is late for the delivery window offered. So I doubt they will credit anyone for delayed "pre-orders"
 
Ordered the space gray sport on the 13th April. Updated delivery today of 22nd - 29th June.

Work colleague ordered same watch on 20th April and has updated delivery date of 27th may - 9th June.

Apple pre-order voodoo
 
The problem is they haven't let anyone down until the product is late for the delivery window offered. So I doubt they will credit anyone for delayed "pre-orders"

I thought they stated if you pre ordered the first day you will get it on the release day?
 
I see China got more slaves, er, workers to make the watches. Hopefully, they can keep suicides down to a minimum.
 
The only way to get Apple to admit to wrong doing is by being served with a court order and even then they will do it in a roundabout way that tries to make themselves look good.
 
Your understanding on how supply and demand works is incorrect. Apple wants to sell as much of their product as possible so if they were to control the supply or decrease the supply when the demand stays insanely high there’s only one outcome we can expect, and that is fewer sales which is against what their goal is.

I wouldn't question my understanding. Of course Apple wants to sell as much of their product as possible. I never said they didn't. The idea of using scarcity as a marketing tool is to make your customer think there's a shortage - and cause them to rush to buy a product - maybe even getting customers to buy more of a product or products with higher margins - even if, given the absence of a shortage, they might not even buy the product. That's how you use scarcity as a marketing tool. And as I said, Apple wrote the book on marketing.

To Apple, it's the idea of giving up something in the short-term, for long-term benefits.
 
Even in jest, your comments are offensive.

Why? Because the guy is accurate? You can be one of those shareholder bafoons that buries your head in the sand regarding slave and child labor but that's exactly what a lot of it is.

I was wondering too.... Did Apple run out of indentured servants to make their stuff? That's the only way they could have a labor shortage. :rolleyes:
 
Why? Because the guy is accurate? You can be one of those shareholder bafoons that buries your head in the sand regarding slave and child labor but that's exactly what a lot of it is.

I was wondering too.... Did Apple run out of indentured servants to make their stuff? That's the only way they could have a labor shortage. :rolleyes:

You just defined why it's offensive to joke about it.
 
I received an update on my shipping date. Apple has narrowed it to June 23 - July 8. Macrumors needs to run another story about this "impressive" work by Apple.

The Macrumors writer has drank too much Koolaid. Yes it's just a watch and not life or death. But it is also a premium product and the entire process of getting one is a train wreck.

A few weeks ago I went to the store to try one on. No one was looking at watches. They said "sure - but we need to setup an appointment first". So I waited two minutes for them to fumble through and setup the appointment. Then I was allowed by permission of Tim Cook (I think) to try on the watch.

This is when my wife started loosing it - she wasn't aware of the mess this launch has been. She asked if she could buy one. They said nope, July at least. Then she asked how to order one. They said website. Smoke started coming out of her head. This is a women who knows shopping and she was dazed. We also have a house full of Apple stuff.

So for me the time has come to cancel my order and free the watch up for some other well deserving person :). My trusty Movado works great, looks nice, and I'm allowed the buy one same day without an appointment!

Macrumors, please avoid using the word impressive to describe this clusterbleep by Apple.
 
How great would it be if Apple produced its products in the United States?

Like seriously. They can afford it.

They might be able to pull off an "Assembled In America". But, from scratch, this is not likely to ever happen. Reason being, rare earths. These things are needed to build these devices, and they all come currently (and cheaply) from China. They want companies to build there in order to get the materials they need. So, they would have to get all the parts built there, then ship it here, and then assemble it here. This, would be nice BUT, it would still take time.
I believe they do this with the Mac Pro tube, and the iMac's now. Somewhere in Texas.

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I ordered mine on April 28, after trying it on and seeing which one I liked best.
42mm Stainless Steel Case with Milanese Loop. Finally, now shows a shipping date by June 29th. Maybe during that week before at best it seems.
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I guess it will be worth the wait though. I just want it now!:apple:
 
I received an update on my shipping date. Apple has narrowed it to June 23 - July 8. Macrumors needs to run another story about this "impressive" work by Apple.

The Macrumors writer has drank too much Koolaid. Yes it's just a watch and not life or death. But it is also a premium product and the entire process of getting one is a train wreck.

A few weeks ago I went to the store to try one on. No one was looking at watches. They said "sure - but we need to setup an appointment first". So I waited two minutes for them to fumble through and setup the appointment. Then I was allowed by permission of Tim Cook (I think) to try on the watch.

This is when my wife started loosing it - she wasn't aware of the mess this launch has been. She asked if she could buy one. They said nope, July at least. Then she asked how to order one. They said website. Smoke started coming out of her head. This is a women who knows shopping and she was dazed. We also have a house full of Apple stuff.

So for me the time has come to cancel my order and free the watch up for some other well deserving person :). My trusty Movado works great, looks nice, and I'm allowed the buy one same day without an appointment!

Macrumors, please avoid using the word impressive to describe this clusterbleep by Apple.


I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that your Movado most likely costs more then the Apple Watch. Unless you got the gold one that is.
I don't think Apple truly knows how well there products are going to sell. They have a fair idea, but usually it is always on the conservative side. In this case, they actually may have fully realized the watch will be more popular then they have supply for. Which is why they did a pre-order. But, like all Apple products that are pre-ordered. They sell out almost instantly. And I think by now, most people know, Apple products will sell out. This has been a cycle for some time now, nothing new.

Every bit of this watch is new, from the silicon (CPU packaging), to the actual case itself, the bands, and "how" it will work. The Movado by comparison is not technically new. The guts of it is still mechanical in nature, same or similar materials on the bands and the case, and the sapphire glass, etc. All things done pretty much the same as previous models. Parts, generally easy to get or make. The Apple Watch is nothing like Apple has made before. This thing is REALLY small on the inside. Outside of the battery in there (which I'm sure was fun trying to make one powerful enough, but still small), everything is pretty new to Apple as far as a product goes. It makes sense it is still not in everyones wrist just yet. I'm pissed too that it is taking so long. But, I knew it from the moment they announced they were making one. Even the $17,000 GOLD watches, I knew was already sold out. If you didn't order it 12:00:02am that night. your not getting it by April 24th. Considering I'm sure most bought 2 (significant others, maybe for a kid or 2).

I'm hoping, since I got to wear it. It will be worth the wait. I like watches too, so this was a no brainer so long as I liked the styling of it (of which I do). :cool:
 
I wouldn't question my understanding. Of course Apple wants to sell as much of their product as possible. I never said they didn't. The idea of using scarcity as a marketing tool is to make your customer think there's a shortage - and cause them to rush to buy a product - maybe even getting customers to buy more of a product or products with higher margins - even if, given the absence of a shortage, they might not even buy the product. That's how you use scarcity as a marketing tool. And as I said, Apple wrote the book on marketing.

To Apple, it's the idea of giving up something in the short-term, for long-term benefits.

Holding back this kind of product shipment will only harm company sales in the short and long run. The price for the watch will be the same now or next year, we’re not paying higher prices for anything. Why would we rush and buy a product that will not arrive until about 2 months later? What you say does not apply to electronic devices sold from apple. This isn’t food or something that we need to survive so holding back shipments of this kind of product does nothing but hurt their own sales.
 
At least mine changed from just available to ship in june. but I should of realized it would be the end on june. :(

I really hope shipping will be a lot sooner.
 

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