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But, how many of these watches will be returned? I know that is a great sales number estimate, but many people here and in the forums have talked about buying an extra watch to try and see which they prefer.
Too bad we will never see that number. I would really be curious to see what the return rate is (not because people are dissatisfied but because people bought extra).

Personally, I ordered three, and eventually cancelled two once I could actually try them on and see them in person.
 
I toyed with the space grey myself. The fact that it was understated was what drew me towards it. I like nice things, but not flashy. I was lucky enough a few years ago to afford a Rolex. A few colleagues thought I was mad for choosing the least "in your face one". I get pleasure out of owning and wearing it, not others seeing I have one. Each to their own.

In the end I went for the stainless steel. The main reason was I just wasn't sure now the space grey will look in real life and if it will mark easier. I'm not sure why I think it'll mark, but the thought has somehow embedded itself in my head. It's possible I'll change my mind during my try on appointment.


I totally understand what you're saying. If I would buy the Apple Watch I would probably get the space gray black strap 38 mm so I could wear it on my right wrist so no one would notice and it wouldn't try to compete with my real watch on my left wrist. But are you going to wear your Rolex and Apple Watch at the same time or change it up per occasion? I would in 95% of the cases choose my watch (which is a real piece of jewellery) instead of the smartwatch.

But for all other people, who don't wear watches, going for the space gray is something I want to understand too :)
 
Pretty solid but it will never silence the haters. They'll figure some way to spin it. You know who you are.
Pretty solid? Are you serious?
They sold 240m iphones last year. 1m out of 240m is 0.4%.
You think 0.4% is great? It's terrible. Plus the majority of those who preordered didn't had the chance to try the watch and will return it. By the end of the year they'll probably sell 3-5 million.
Anything under 10m/year is not solid.

And no, i'm not a hater, i actually like the watch and preordered it.
 
Wow, kind of surprising - at least to me. I knew a lot of people here in MR were very eager for it, but I hadn't realize that also translated in to the typical consumer.
 
Of course you cannot compare 7 years ago to today, but Apple's customer base did not grow 2.4 fold in one year. People just waited to buy the iPad. I bought the 3rd gen for the first time myself.

How do you know it did not grow by that much? Apple did not built up such wealth so quickly based on a steady customer growth . The growth would have been driven by iPhone , and quess what launched after the iPad, the iPhone 4. So are you saying apple did not have one of its biggest growth spurts with the iPhone 4? We can look into the numbers of 3GS v iPhone 4 sales as an estimate ? I'll stand by my remark that Apple customer base could have easily gone up by 2.4 or More in 2010, as a result of the iPhone 4 being the best phone by a large margin.
 
Apple just outsold every Android watch ever released in just one day.

Like iPod to mp3s, iPhone to smartphones, and iPad to tablets, Apple is showing the rest of the industry how to properly do the smart watch.
 
So where is everyone who was calling it a failure now? Hello? Where did you guys go?
Nowhere. We're here.

Did Apple just sell more Watches then all other smartwatches combined in one day?
We don't know yet. But the estimation numbers seem to indicate what we were saying: the continuity of this new product is highly doubtful. And we're still not taking into account what will happen in next months, when users realize they usually forget their watch in a drawer at home.
 
Pretty solid? Are you serious?
They sold 240m iphones last year. 1m out of 240m is 0.4%.
You think 0.4% is great? It's terrible. Plus the majority of those who preordered didn't had the chance to try the watch and will return it. By the end of the year they'll probably sell 3-5 million.
Anything under 10m/year is not solid.

And no, i'm not a hater, i actually like the watch and preordered it.

Apple or not, smartwatches are a very hard category to crack for any manufacturer. It's just not something that feels as "necessary" as a smartphone or a music player, especially at this price. People are not buying this to replace their traditional watches.
So if these numbers are real, that's a pretty impressive achievement for Apple, compared to its competitors.

I think smartwatches are going to stay in the "hobby" category for a long time just like the AppleTV is for Apple, probably until smartwatch batteries get a substantial increase in duration.
 
Pretty good sales! But it could be well more than that.

But. I wonder how many will be returned because they don't fit or not impressed with the battery life. You know what consumers are like! :)
 
Pretty solid? Are you serious?
They sold 240m iphones last year. 1m out of 240m is 0.4%.
You think 0.4% is great? It's terrible. Plus the majority of those who preordered didn't had the chance to try the watch and will return it. By the end of the year they'll probably sell 3-5 million.
Anything under 10m/year is not solid.

And no, i'm not a hater, i actually like the watch and preordered it.

That's pretty bad math right there.

iPhone sales in the last year is actually 192.6m

1m Watch preorders in the US alone on Day 1.

Perhaps Add another 2-3 million for the other 7 countries... in one day.

iPhone 6 sold 4 million on Day 1 - 9m over the weekend.

Remember this is only 8 countries so far. The other 31 still to come...

I suspect they will be over 20m in a year easy. probably closer to 40... most of them sports of course.
 
But. I wonder how many will be returned because they don't fit or not impressed with the battery life. You know what consumers are like! :)
Not to mention how many of them will end forgotten in a drawer. Of course, this won't affect first-month sales, which, anyway, doesn't seem to be as high as to compensate for what will happen in next months.
 
The iPad would be the sole exception there. I remember just about everyone going head over heels for it.

Am I the only one who remembers the iPad criticism?

'No better than a netbook (no multitasking, no Microsoft office, requires syncing to iTunes on a 'real' computer) yet more expensive'?

'Just a big iPod touch'?

'What can it actually do that we can't do already?'

'Too big to replace your phone and not powerful enough to replace your laptop'?

I am amazed that people don't remember these, as for me the iPad is the best example of a product which was attacked at first by reviewers then loved by the public.
 
Apple Watch Received Estimated 1 Million Pre-Orders in U.S. on April 10

He already explained why in the same sentence. :p


No he didn't. He said he wished it launched in the US first, he didn't explain why. At least not in the post I quoted, I haven't seen his original post perhaps it was edited.
 
Nowhere. We're here.

We don't know yet. But the estimation numbers seem to indicate what we were saying: the continuity of this new product is highly doubtful. And we're still not taking into account what will happen in next months, when users realize they usually forget their watch in a drawer at home.

So you know how peoples minds work then.. what everyone in the entire world. Wow you must be incredibly successful... like the new Apple Watch.

And you are trying to spin Fantastic figures = bad future. [Slow hand clap]

You know the next one will be the one to get when the tech improves.

Future Sensors - sleep tracking, glucose monitoring, and hydration tracking + others
FaceTime Camera
A more complete API for developers
More watch independence from phone
And at some point AW4> Cellphone calling. Perhaps linked to the same cell
phone number... so you can just take the watch on a run for example.
 
No he didn't. He said he wished it launched in the US first, he didn't explain why. At least not in the post I quoted, I haven't seen his original post perhaps it was edited.

Well it's pretty clear to me he's saying that due to availability and ship dates. Had it been US only, ship dates wouldn't have worsened as quickly.
 
Am I the only one who remembers the iPad criticism?

'What can it actually do that we can't do already?'

I am amazed that people don't remember these, as for me the iPad is the best example of a product which was attacked at first by reviewers then loved by the public.

I bought the first one and didn't use it 'that' much. The killer feature was really the iPad2's Front facing camera. FaceTime and Skype for all the Grandma's out there :D

The Watch 2/3 will be the same. I am sure they wanted it in the Watch... but guess there is not a lot of space in there.... and well it'll need a better battery!
 
How do you know it did not grow by that much? Apple did not built up such wealth so quickly based on a steady customer growth . The growth would have been driven by iPhone , and quess what launched after the iPad, the iPhone 4. So are you saying apple did not have one of its biggest growth spurts with the iPhone 4? We can look into the numbers of 3GS v iPhone 4 sales as an estimate ? I'll stand by my remark that Apple customer base could have easily gone up by 2.4 or More in 2010, as a result of the iPhone 4 being the best phone by a large margin.

What growth are we talking about again? You say it was driven by iPhone, so we are talking about iOS userbase? That could have grown 2.4 fold in one year in 2010 to 2011, I never said otherwise. But I don't think there were 2.4 fold more customers for iPad 2 in 2011 than they were in 2010. People just waited.
 
Well it's pretty clear to me he's saying that due to availability and ship dates. Had it been US only, ship dates wouldn't have worsened so quickly.


Only a problem for the impatient. I guess America is full of em.
 
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