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Apple Watch Sales Estimated at 5.1 Million in Holiday Quarter, Swiss Watch Sales in Trouble
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I don't know why the floor, wall, coat sleeve, nightstand, computer keyboard, or total strangers need to see the time on my wrist.
It is a flaw though by your own admission for the reasoning that it's done. And, yes, I wouldn't buy one with such a series of design flaws. It's a toy until Apple fixes those fundamental problems.
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Nor the inside of a fridge. With 1.2 days of battery life, Apple doesn't believe humans need to see the time either.
Hodinkee's response to the source story of this article. They don't seem to think the future is as bleak as the Strategy Analytics report is suggesting.
New Reports That Smartwatches Pose Heightened Threat To Swiss Watch Industry May Paint Misleading Picture
New Reports That Smartwatches Pose Heightened Threat To Swiss Watch Industry May Paint Misleading Picture
Do they need to grow?
And a mechanical watch needs servicing every 5 years or so. A service for a Speedmaster Pro costs about 750$.
I have the feeling that most people here have never owned a decent Swiss watch and / or can't afford one anyway. Sorry to put this so bluntly.
Nobody cares if you buy an Apple Watch - so go get one and be happy. But don't discuss stuff you have absolutely zero idea about.
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No it doesn't. And that's one reason I hope there's a camera in the next one, so that it will know when the watch face is obscured. For those who don't care how their watch looks to other people, and prefer to maximize their battery life, that same camera will be able to keep the backlight on as long as the owner's eyes are looking at it, and turn it off immediately when they stop looking, and avoid accidental turn ons.
How about Apple giving its customers the option of whether to spend their precious battery life keeping the display constantly illuminated, along with other battery hungry options like GPS? Just like they give me many, many such options on my iPhone?
I look at the time in my Apple Watch with greasy hands because there is no need to touch it for it to display time. Just raise your hand and the screen turns on.
Sure, and then run your battery down when it accidentally turns on all day long whether you intend to look at the time or not?
Simply don't get it. A mechanical watch is always "on" because there is no way to turn off the "display". The side effect is that everybody can look at the hour.
Nevertheless, it doesn't make sense because you don't consider your smartTV underpowered because it's not on when you are away from home and can't look at it. Your car isn't underpowered because you don't turn the lights on on daylight. Your water source is not underpowered because it doesn't have water running when you don't use it.
What you are saying is that you want other people to look at the watch face for aestetic reasons just because every dumb watch on the planet shows that face to other people... even if it's because then can't turn off.
Not only one is being vain but one is trying to measure the value of something not because how it makes you feel and how useful is but how it makes you feel due to the perception of others. In other words, your want to show the time to others when you don't look at it.
The iPhone is not underpowered because it's screen isn't on when other people are looking at it. It just doesn't make sense because it's a personal device, not a public one.
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Yea that's fine. I'm sure there will be an option in future iterations of the watch.
As with our current iPhones, we have many many more options then when the 1st iPhone was released.
That is the same problem with millions of fashion watches and Swiss watches: they are produced in large quantities. It's not different with the Apple Watch.
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And as far as jewelry is concerned, the SS version and specially the SBSS version looks like you are wearing a piece of onix so it looks like other fashion accesories.
Having iphone6s in my pocket is enough for whatever functionality issue relating to connectivity, messaging or whatever being in touch aspect. In fact, I really don't like always being in connect thing and I usually turn off my iPhone in case I want my solace. And my fitbit is enough for my work out tracking and daily activity tracking which is only function I like about any wearable.
And nothing will replace my two tone Rolex Sub
And nothing will replace my two tone Rolex Sub
There is a sensor right now. You can silence calls by putting your hand over the watch face for 3 seconds.
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No. I run the battery down in 1 to 2 days regardless of how much it turns on. There is no need to turn off the raise to wake feature and having to touch the screen everytime I want the know the time. It still lasts a similar amount of time.
It also needs a very special movement heavily associated with trying to look at the watch. It doesn't run on if I raise my arm because in your daily life there are no movements that requiere a certain flick of the wrist at the same time. Plkus that flick has to stop at certain angle. Thats why sometimes it turns on half a second if it detects you exceeded the angle of the flick.
The only time I have encountered where it turns on accidentally is when walking my baby because he makes me do strange movements or when driving in heavy traffic. In fact I just scratched my head, signed some documents and used the keyboard without it turning on.
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Swiss watches might be hit disproportionally (compared to smartwatches) by the Chinese downturn.
I'm saying I want a watch that is always on because I have a job where my hands get greasy and full of grime. Having to press a button to see what time it is just simply does not work in my work situation. This is why I wear a watch where the time is always shown.
You're making it more difficult then it needs to be.
Got it?
Yup, especially sales to tourists in Hong Kong, which took a 33% hit.
Japan saw a 33% gain, however.
On the contrary, you are making it more difficult because you don't have to press a button to see the time. Just raise your hand and it turns on. If you are concerned about accidentally turning the screen on then what? The battery life is similar and then other people will look at it like a normal watch for 15 seconds.
The battery life is a second problem in why I don't own an Apple watch. My old digital watch is atomic and solar. There is no need to ever charge the battery and the time always connects to the time server each and every night to insure it is accurate. When the watches battery power gets low, I simply place it in a window that catches the afternoon sun for a few hours and it's good to go for almost a year.
I have some valid reasons here.
I have enough devices here that need charging every 1.5-3 days. Don't need to add an Apple watch that needs charging every day.
I'm out of this discussion now because it's really pointless having to justify my reasons why I don't want this watch.
Having iphone6s in my pocket is enough for whatever functionality issue relating to connectivity, messaging or whatever being in touch aspect. In fact, I really don't like always being in connect thing and I usually turn off my iPhone in case I want my solace. And my fitbit is enough for my work out tracking and daily activity tracking which is only function I like about any wearable.
And nothing will replace my two tone Rolex Sub
This is kind of the AW's little secret. Instead of making you more connected, it actually allows you to spend less time with your phone if that's what you want. I only allow a few really important notifications to come through to the watch, and am only notified by the taptic. Phone is completely silent 100% of the time now. No more incessant beeping. No more getting sidetracked by other things on my phone a dozen times a day. No more feeling the urge to get up and look at my phone sitting on the counter across the room to see what that notification might be. It's the best part of the watch.
Welcome to the world of fashion, of which Apple has demonstrated it is desperate for its approval.
While Apple is not addressing the watch face at the moment, they're doing exactly the same thing with watch bands, because they know they have no other way to make their product fit this essential need for most of humanity. So welcome also to modern society.
Funny comment in a thread where numerous people have eagerly admitted to owning a Rolex. But, yeah, Apple.
Maybe it's because Swiss timepieces are built to last?
AMOLED suffers from burn in though.
AMOLED suffers from burn in though.
I would want to see a breakdown of exactly which companies are suffering. I would guess the very high end ones are not suffering at all, but the mid tier luxury watches and lower priced ones probably are.
The watch look is pretty personal. I haven't found a smartwatch I fell in love with yet. The Moto is not bad at all, but just the size of it makes it look like you strapped on a metal disc. But no I don't think my Rolex looks that much better, but looks alone wasn't my point. I agree that the apple watch has a very cool and innovative bracelet.
In the end though the difference lies in something that many cannot fathom. Much of the luxury watches income comes from people who want others to know what they are wearing and that they spent a lot on it. Those type of consumers flock to Apple for phones, but I'm not sure they necessarily flock to them for watches. I'd be curious to see a breakdown of incomes for Apple watch consumers.
I don't disagree with you though, smartwatches have MUCH more functionality and *should* be the future. But then again not every consumer chooses an item because it is more functional.
Ahh, yes I can see the incoming deluge of disdain for luxury watch owners. Like they should be ashamed to own one, and should never mention that they own one on a forum. I never understood that type of insecurity.