With the way apple cripples older iPads, I'm not surprised those sales are declining.
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Apple Watch Sales Estimated at 5.1 Million in Holiday Quarter, Swiss Watch Sales in Trouble
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When my hands are dirty I still just turn the Apple Watch towards my face and read the time without touching it.
It's not a problem.
That's right, Apple should 'innovate' and make their watch face be like every other watch face ever made.
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It's a slipper slope. Most TAGs aren't really even that high end. My main watch is a Submariner Date (outside of an Omega Aqua Terra and some other mechanicals,) and I haven't touched it in months, since I started wearing an Apple Watch.
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I'm in the exact same position, particularly since Swiss watch prices have been in a huge bubble the last 10-15 years. The Apple Watch is a bit of the "Tesla" of wrist wear, and it's time to start selling my mechanicals before their value plummets. Add in the impeding global recession/depression, and I'm more anxious than ever to unload them, while people still want them.
Yeah, but if he's holding something that should not be disturbed (say, a sleeping baby or something being glued that requires a certain amount of minutes), his mechanical watchface is always visible without a flick
The only reason people defend the lack of always-on with the AW, is because Apple failed to implement it.
Heck, sometimes it's nice just to be able to sneak a glance in meetings or on dates without visible wrist gyrations.
It's more that I recognise a necessary compromise when I see one, and the lack of an always-on display won't be the reason why I don't get an Apple Watch, if it ever came to that.Yeah, but if he's holding something that should not be disturbed (say, a sleeping baby or something being glued that requires a certain amount of minutes), his mechanical watchface is always visible without a flick
The only reason people defend the lack of always-on with the AW, is because Apple failed to implement it.
Heck, sometimes it's nice just to be able to sneak a glance in meetings or on dates without visible wrist gyrations.
Hmm. Necessary? Most of my Android Wear watches are always-on, and last the same or longer than my Apple Watch does.
True, it'd better not be a reason, since we have no choice between an Apple Watch that's always on or not
If we did, I think a lot of people would go for the always-on. If nothing else, being able to time things without constantly re-waking a watch, is really handy.
Yeah, but if he's holding something that should not be disturbed (say, a sleeping baby or something being glued that requires a certain amount of minutes), his mechanical watchface is always visible without a flick
The only reason people defend the lack of always-on with the AW, is because Apple failed to implement it.
Heck, sometimes it's nice just to be able to sneak a glance in meetings or on dates without visible wrist gyrations.
Very often I have to turn my wrist to read the time on one of my mechanical watches. It's amazing how often those watch faces are turned away from me.
Is there anything that makes mechanical watches not obsolete? Answer: nothing. Its 16th century technology, albeit updated with modern equipment. Materials are fine? I am sure in 19 century there were finest materials-built steam ships. So what. Where are those steam ships if not at museums? There are hand made, well, handcraft things, they are rare, obsolete and outdated, exist for collectors' use. Thats where the Swiss industry is headed. The rest of the world is moving toward digital wearables (or computer watches). Its a not watch, per se, just like iPhone is just not a calculator. When you measure sum of efficiency, derived from wearables, it greatly exceeds efficiency of old mechanical clock on your wrist, even if it is made from finest steel and wood. Thats why new technology replaces old one, which is left to collectors, maybe including you. They are still here, they just not relevant anymore.
I met a guy who was proud of his golden watch. He treated it as both as an investment and as a status symbol: he insisted it was great to attract girls - didn't seem to be working, duh. Made me think that his general ickiness was what necessitated the watch, and still wasn't countering it enough. Apart from the obvious question of exactly what kind of girls would be attracted by that.
In summary, the kind of guy to better keep as an acquaintance instead of as a friend.
After reading all these defences of swiss-made watches, it feels like the world is full of people like that. Eugh.
In summary, the kind of guy to better keep as an acquaintance instead of as a friend.
After reading all these defences of swiss-made watches, it feels like the world is full of people like that. Eugh.
What I think is even dumber is automatically equating mechanical watches with high-priced Swiss brands.
We can get entry-level mechanical Swiss* watches for a few hundred bucks, and they'll be perfectly fine. Swatch now has a machine-built automatic which retails for $150.
We can also spend less than a hundred to get a mechanical watch from an Asian brand (most notably Seiko) and still have a watch to run for fifty years or more. And my Seiko mechanical, truthfully due to luck of the draw, is one of the most accurate clocks in my household.
When the term "Swiss" gets thrown around in this thread, we've got to remember two things: it may, or may not, refer to watches costing a few thousand dollars or more; and the report itself does not include sales and exports of non-Swiss watch brands.
The world is full of people like that and Apple has made a spectacle out of itself catering to them. Watching Jony Ive and Apple suck up to bizarre fashion luminaries like Karl Lagerfeld, seeking to currying favor with a custom $25,000 gold watch no one else can buy, was a little nauseating.
So if you think Apple is above your opinion of those who defend Swiss made watches in this forum, think again.
Notice how I was talking specifically about a golden (read: ostentatiously expensive) watch, used as a status symbol to be flicked around. I don't care if it's swiss or not, the ickiness doesn't come from there.
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What? As a seller, it's genius. Make a piece of gold-plated **** and see people going nuts for them while trying to make others think they are somehow "better" in some way because of that. Isn't it great?
The nasty thing is the mentality of the ones buying.
Right, because there's nothing nasty about the mentality of exploiting your customers, or selling "snake oil" and calling it a panacea.
I agree that exploiting your customers is nasty. But looks like in capitalism the fool and his money won't stay together for long. If they don't do it, others will. Hey, I agree we should change that.
Re: snake oil and panacea: Are you saying that Apple sells the watch as a cure for something, or what? If not, maybe choose better your metaphor, instead of just furiously waving your hands.
That's when I reach for my drink.
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Every commercial transaction is exploiting a customer who thinks your product X is more valuable than the money, when you know the opposite is true for you (you want the money).
Exploiting?
Since when is a mutually agreed upon financial transaction exchanging goods for services exploitation?
It's pure supply and demand.
Make a product that people want and sell it for a profit. The market will determine the price.
This is not exploitation in any way.
It's all about exploiting an asymmetry in one or more of wealth, skill, knowledge, connections, size, power, weapons, history, geology, fear, and/or etc. If it's socially acceptable, we forget about any upsides/downsides to that asymmetry.
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Some would say that a huge portion, maybe even the majority of 1st world consumer purchase dollars, especially anything worn externally, is due to conspicuous consumption, thus has to be shown off.
I'm surprise they have sold 5 million watches. I have been in and by a very busy Apple Store several times and the watch table has always been deserted.
They're buying them at Wal-Mart using WalMart Pay.
Anybody who would buy one at the Apple Store has already looked at them and decided to wait, or bought one already.