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I would love to spring the money for SS Apple Watch, but after the Verge review, I could see myself upgrading in a year or two, and for that matter I will probably get the Aluminum Sport Watch.
 
I am happy to know that I can wear my $17k watch while working my construction job and not getting it all scratched up. :D

You own the construction company, and apple watch is then fully a business expense. Every one wins.
 
It's sapphire . Why are people surprised? It's not a new invention
 
I would like to see them try this test with a diamond-tipped drill bit (the kind used for masonry or ceramic), not the regular soft (for wood) bit they used in this video. Of course that isn't going to scratch glass!

Those kind of drill bits are usually carbide tipped. I doubt they would scratch it either.
 
Ion-X glass is the same material used in the windows of space shuttles (per Apple's web site), so you certainly don't want that thing to scratch easy, replacing them would be a BITCH ;-).

Ion-X sounds like a fancy Apple name for Gorilla Glass, Dragontail, or Xensation. All are ion exchange alkali-aluminosilicate sheets. The fact that you mentioned it's connection to the space shuttles leads me more towards GG, than the other two since I think (strong emphasis on think) Corning made that 3 layer glass for the shuttles.
 
The stainless steel and gold bodies are not only durable but expensive.

What makes you think gold is durable? It's a very soft metal, scratches easily, gets dings easily. Even the 18k gold of the apple watch, which is about 75% pure gold, is still very soft.

The stainless steel is more durable than gold... but I would not describe it as durable in general.
 
The shower, probably not a big issue (unless your doing it for 30 minutes), but wouldn't do it anyway (because its gross to not wash yourself everywhere and there's no point to it).

Though, I often manipulate my Iphone while in the bathtub (don't put it in water though :), so I wouldn't be too afraid to have the watch on around water. Having the watch on, arms outside while relaxing in the hot tub would be fun though :).

Some triathletes were using IPX7 in their swimming caps for years without problem.

As a triathlete myself I probably know exactly which watches you're referring to. I had 2 different Garmins that were IPX7 and I never swam with them. It said right in the instructions not to swim with them. It's one of those things that if something does go wrong and it gets water logged, it's on you. Fortunately their recent models are now waterproof.

On a side note, there are some people in various forums, this one included, that complain about it not being waterproof, and I think about the Garmins that were IPX7 -- and they were made for triathletes which includes swimming!

I think an IPX7 rating for the Apple Watch is pretty darn good considering it has a speaker, mic, a microcomputer, a bunch of sensors, and a rotating crown.
 
Ion-X sounds like a fancy Apple name for Gorilla Glass, Dragontail, or Xensation. All are ion exchange alkali-aluminosilicate sheets. The fact that you mentioned it's connection to the space shuttles leads me more towards GG, than the other two since I think (strong emphasis on think) Corning made that 3 layer glass for the shuttles.

I didn't imply anything about who made it, just reporting what Apple said. Has Apple ever ackowledge even using GG overtly (other than it being implied?)
 
Metal is SOFTER than glass. Keys, rings, drill bits... none of these things are capable of scratching glass, much less sapphire. (Well, there are drill bits with special tips that would do it in a hurry, even to sapphire, but such a test is kind of absurd on its face anyway.)
Glass can vary a lot in hardness depending on its chemical composition and can be relatively soft: it can go from 5.5 to over 7 in the hardness scale. Steel can also exceed 7, so the "softer" glass can easily get scratched by it.
 
Theoretically, but.....

Sigh... So many useless scratch tests trying to use metal objects to scratch glass/sapphire/etc.

Metal is SOFTER than glass. Keys, rings, drill bits... none of these things are capable of scratching glass, much less sapphire. (Well, there are drill bits with special tips that would do it in a hurry, even to sapphire, but such a test is kind of absurd on its face anyway.)

In theory yes. In the real world, not so much. I have seen this stated many times here. The trouble is, it is not entirely accurate. Don't believe me?? Make a video of you taking a sharp knife and raking the point of the blade across your phone screen. Not just barely touching it. Actually press down quite a bit. Hey, metal is is softer than glass so it won't scratch, right? Right?? I bet it will scratch
 
Incredible. Now just give me this on an iPhone!!

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I would love to spring the money for SS Apple Watch, but after the Verge review, I could see myself upgrading in a year or two, and for that matter I will probably get the Aluminum Sport Watch.

I'm gonna try to bag an Apple Watch appointment tomorrow morning so that I can go and see one, on Saturday. But I think ultimately I'll be waiting around until at least the 2nd generation. The most striking thing about that Verge review was the way they said it seems like nobody has yet worked out what the smartwatch is even for and that it does tiny bits of everything, but not a few things well.

The prospect of Android Wear working with iPhone is quite exciting I think, cause as much as I hate Android, the Moto 360 is a gorgeous smartwatch and I wouldn't really have to put up with anything specifically Android based if I had one - it would just be notifications and what not.
 
Huh? Are you you planning to carry your Apple Watch in your pocket?

Yeah… I, uh, consider the area immediately around my wrist to be a pocket… No, no, wait—if any particularly attractive owner of an Watch wanted to put a hand in my pocket, I would worry about… Alright, fine; I didn't think this one out. :eek:
 
Originally Posted by Kendo
So the display is seemingly unscratchable. The stainless steel and gold bodies are not only durable but expensive. What is the chance that Apple promotes an upgrade program solely for the Apple Watch where you can replace the inside circuit board and battery at a fraction of the cost while keeping your watch? This is when you want to upgrade to the Apple Watch 2? Similar to the way we can drop off our watches to replace the battery at a watch store?
No chance!

prob not. but it's likely they keep the same form factor so theoretically you might could buy your $1200 nice stainless jobby and then spring for the $350 v2 and have an enterprising watch tech swap innards for ya.... :D
 
Incredible. Now just give me this on an iPhone!!

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I'm gonna try to bag an Apple Watch appointment tomorrow morning so that I can go and see one, on Saturday. But I think ultimately I'll be waiting around until at least the 2nd generation. The most striking thing about that Verge review was the way they said it seems like nobody has yet worked out what the smartwatch is even for and that it does tiny bits of everything, but not a few things well.

The prospect of Android Wear working with iPhone is quite exciting I think, cause as much as I hate Android, the Moto 360 is a gorgeous smartwatch and I wouldn't really have to put up with anything specifically Android based if I had one - it would just be notifications and what not.


that verge review was balls. he, a: didn't take enough time learning to use it, rather he criticized things before he tried to understand how to use them properly; b: dinged it for things which are obviously early software things, like load times etc, that will undoubtedly get much better in short order and likely in v1 hardware; c: was more interested in making a snappy video than actually using the watch.
 
I didn't imply anything about who made it, just reporting what Apple said. Has Apple ever ackowledge even using GG overtly (other than it being implied?)

I wasn't making an implication either, other than to say Ion-X sounds like Apple speak for GG. AFAIK Apple has never said they use GG. I think the closest acknowledgement was Cook saying the glass is sourced in Kentucky.

We all know Apple loves their special terminology.
 
To shatter, the corners would need to receive a significant force on them, or you'd have to fall on something hard right in the middle of it without touching the sides.

The option first seems improbable by how the watch is built (and its weight) on it falls by itself without you wearing it. The forces will be pretty low that way.

Even if you wear it, the sides seam to well protected; so I think it would be OK.

I'm guessing the face will shatter if it's impacted on that beveled edge.

I'm sure we'll know soon enough.
 
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