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I wouldn't do it. The immersion test is just to meet the IPX7 specification. But being in a pool/shower/sea and moving around there are different stresses put upon the watch that are not tested, plus chemicals in the water that changes the water's properties.

Meeting the 1 meter for 30 minutes immersion specification is not the same as real world submersion scenarios.

I will definitely swim with it. If it doesn't work, well, there's AppleCare.
 
It amazes me how people amazed that the amazing Sapphire crystal is amazingly un-scratch-able by seemingly amazing series of tests. :roll eyes:

Next we will see a test if Apple Watch was bulletproof.
 
Kitty litter?? WTF kind of kitty litter do you buy? I'd hate to be your cat lol!!

many brands of cat litter (even higher end ones) do contain sand and silica particles.

being that this is carbon based, it has the potential of being very strong as well.

so, if you're someone who wears their watch while cleanign the kitty litter, gets a little on you, or in your pocket somehow, it's a potential scratch agent that COUld very well be stronger than sapphire.

Remember Sapphire is strong. one of the highest rated in strength scales. Probablyt the strongest man made compound.

but it's still outdone by compressed carbon items like diamond.
 
many brands of cat litter (even higher end ones) do contain sand and silica particles.

being that this is carbon based, it has the potential of being very strong as well.

so, if you're someone who wears their watch while cleanign the kitty litter, gets a little on you, or in your pocket somehow, it's a potential scratch agent that COUld very well be stronger than sapphire.

Remember Sapphire is strong. one of the highest rated in strength scales. Probablyt the strongest man made compound.

but it's still outdone by compressed carbon items like diamond.

Yeah I get it. Seems to me that's what scoopers are for. If your hand is in it you have other "issues" ;)
 
many brands of cat litter (even higher end ones) do contain sand and silica particles.

being that this is carbon based, it has the potential of being very strong as well.

so, if you're someone who wears their watch while cleanign the kitty litter, gets a little on you, or in your pocket somehow, it's a potential scratch agent that COUld very well be stronger than sapphire.

Remember Sapphire is strong. one of the highest rated in strength scales. Probablyt the strongest man made compound.

but it's still outdone by compressed carbon items like diamond.

I learn something new every day.:) Kitty litter. Who woulda thunk it? Even more than worrying about scratches, people should probably avoid cleaning kitty litter while wearing the :apple:watch because it has no dust protection rating at all. It's only IPX7 rated instead of IP67 rated. That 6 is dust.
 
In theory yes. In the real world, not so much. I have seen this stated many times here. The trouble is, it is not entirely accurate. Don't believe me?? Make a video of you taking a sharp knife and raking the point of the blade across your phone screen. Not just barely touching it. Actually press down quite a bit. Hey, metal is is softer than glass so it won't scratch, right? Right?? I bet it will scratch
The edge of a knife is hardened steel, which is hard enough to also scratch some kinds of glasses, but in this case you would first of all scratch the coating applied over the glass.

Anyway you also have to consider that a smartphone's screen needs to be hard, but it cannot be too brittle: it's not necessarily a good idea to use the hardest glass for it if it's not shatter-resistant enough.
 
That's a sapphire crystal display, but it's not an Apple Watch sapphire crystal display.

And I think the article is full of crap.

It'll be interesting to see the drop test as sapphire has a higher tendency to shatter (vs. Gorilla Glass).

I'm guessing the face will shatter if it's impacted on that beveled edge.

I'm sure we'll know soon enough.

Hate to disappoint someone so heavily invested, but Apple have thought of everything. Apparently you can strap this thing to your wrist so you don't drop it.
 
The hammer bit made me laugh.

The reason a hammer exists as a tool is because it consists of a heavy weight on the end of a long handle, so, using momentum you can obtain a lot of force onto a small area using a swinging motion.

If you are going to tap a hammer onto something what does that prove?
That it's hammer proof, or that you can just use a hammer lightly.

Hey, you know what.....

The windows in my house must be made from Sapphire as I can hit them with a hammer lightly and they don't break either :D

I agree, but come on. It survived a drill.
 
Why all this fuss testing the Sapphire on the watch? Yes it's new to Apple but other watches (including my Tag I have on) have had Sapphire crystal faces for a long, long time. Apple have done nothing new here at all, it's well known a Sapphire screen is incredibly hard, so why the tests - just in case the Sapphire on the :apple:Watch was some how not as strong as on all othe higher end watches? It's proven, it's doesn't need to be proven again here as though Apple have done something special.

I'll be ordering though tonight, roll on 2:01am :)
 
KNOCK KNOCK!

Who is it?

It's Physics, and it's pissed!

But being in a pool/shower/sea and moving around there are different stresses put upon the watch that are not tested

Not really. Liquid water has low viscosity, and unless you're brandishing an object in water with a high surface area, or the watch has a dissolvable sealant (which makes no sense), or you're able to swim with such a speed that individual water molecules cannot reorder themselves fast enough, harm should not befall the watch.

plus chemicals in the water that changes the water's properties.

Again, no. The only significant change that occurs with water is a physical change- when water freezes. Since I assume the wearer will not be diving watch first into a block of ice, the watch should be ok.

The chemical properties of water do not change. A system that contains water may change depending on what is added/substracted to/from the system, but water does not change its properties. Thank physics this is true! And unless you're pondering to jump into a pool of concentrated acid or base, you shouldn't have much to worry about.

Meeting the 1 meter for 30 minutes immersion specification is not the same as real world submersion scenarios.

Actually it kind of is, for the reasons I stated above. However, an environmental condition outside of these constraints would warrant caution. Besides the unrealistic scenarios I posited above (acid/base bath, supersonic swimming speed, swimming within a block of ice) the only normally occurring activity within water that could harm an otherwise undefective Apple Watch would be deep water diving. Because of the large increase in pressure resulting from increased diving depth, divers would want to wear their pressure resistant watches instead of the Apple Watch for this task.
 
Sold on 38mm Sport

170 mm wrist and want a comfortable, lightweight, normal sized watch. Fortunately, I don't drop watches often because they are attached to my wrist.
 
So the display is seemingly unscratchable. The stainless steel and gold bodies are not only durable but expensive. What is the chance that Apple promotes an upgrade program solely for the Apple Watch where you can replace the inside circuit board and battery at a fraction of the cost while keeping your watch? This is when you want to upgrade to the Apple Watch 2? Similar to the way we can drop off our watches to replace the battery at a watch store?
^^ This! I don't think given how small the device is that there will any changes in thickness in the second and likely third gens. Their #1 priority would probably be extending battery life so by the time native apps are a thing it won't be drained by noon. Until they find a breakthrough, they will have to rely on improving the efficiency of the device with the S- chips and Watch OS.
As a result, I see/hope that Apple starts a program where Edition owners get to update their watch for free or say $100 while the Steel owners pay $249. This would be a pretty good source of revenue for Apple and it would suggest to potential customers that their watches will still be supported and not be left to collect dust in the drawer after a few years. The main distinguisher for the 2nd gen could be a price cut and adding/replacing new materials such as unapologetic plastic, titanium, liquidmetal, etc.
 
many brands of cat litter (even higher end ones) do contain sand and silica particles.

being that this is carbon based, it has the potential of being very strong as well.

so, if you're someone who wears their watch while cleanign the kitty litter, gets a little on you, or in your pocket somehow, it's a potential scratch agent that COUld very well be stronger than sapphire.

Remember Sapphire is strong. one of the highest rated in strength scales. Probablyt the strongest man made compound.

but it's still outdone by compressed carbon items like diamond.

Unless there are diamonds or sapphires in your kitty litter, it will not scratch the display.

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KNOCK KNOCK!

Who is it?

It's Physics, and it's pissed!



Not really. Liquid water has low viscosity, and unless you're brandishing an object in water with a high surface area, or the watch has a dissolvable sealant (which makes no sense), or you're able to swim with such a speed that individual water molecules cannot reorder themselves fast enough, harm should not befall the watch.



Again, no. The only significant change that occurs with water is a physical change- when water freezes. Since I assume the wearer will not be diving watch first into a block of ice, the watch should be ok.

The chemical properties of water do not change. A system that contains water may change depending on what is added/substracted to/from the system, but water does not change its properties. Thank physics this is true! And unless you're pondering to jump into a pool of concentrated acid or base, you shouldn't have much to worry about.



Actually it kind of is, for the reasons I stated above. However, an environmental condition outside of these constraints would warrant caution. Besides the unrealistic scenarios I posited above (acid/base bath, supersonic swimming speed, swimming within a block of ice) the only normally occurring activity within water that could harm an otherwise undefective Apple Watch would be deep water diving. Because of the large increase in pressure resulting from increased diving depth, divers would want to wear their pressure resistant watches instead of the Apple Watch for this task.

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many brands of cat litter (even higher end ones) do contain sand and silica particles.

being that this is carbon based, it has the potential of being very strong as well.

so, if you're someone who wears their watch while cleanign the kitty litter, gets a little on you, or in your pocket somehow, it's a potential scratch agent that COUld very well be stronger than sapphire.

Remember Sapphire is strong. one of the highest rated in strength scales. Probablyt the strongest man made compound.

but it's still outdone by compressed carbon items like diamond.

It's not strong, it's hard, very hard though reasonably brittle. If you think you can't smash a Sapphire screen with an impact you're dead wrong. Strong and hard are two completely different things.
 
Knowing our luck, the Sport version with the so-called "Ion-X glass" will probably scratch when you caress a feather across it.
 
Made me laugh! I wish I would've thought to include it in my rebuttal. :cool:

Made me...
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Okay, I'll lay off with the GIFs now, I've had my fun :p


Hang on... I've had an idea - we could make gemstones from kitty litter? Ooooohh...
 
So the display is seemingly unscratchable. The stainless steel and gold bodies are not only durable but expensive. What is the chance that Apple promotes an upgrade program solely for the Apple Watch where you can replace the inside circuit board and battery at a fraction of the cost while keeping your watch? This is when you want to upgrade to the Apple Watch 2? Similar to the way we can drop off our watches to replace the battery at a watch store?

This.

The main reason why I don't want to buy an apple watch (a piece of jewelry) is because the obsolescence will be so quick. If I buy a nice watch, I want it to last more than a year or two.
 
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