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I get 227. Plug in the following inputs:
Horizontal: 272
Vertical: 340
Diagonal: 1.915" [(38mm^2+30.4mm^2)^.5]/25.4

The math is the old pythagorean theorem (a squared + b squared = c squared). The conversion ratio of mm to inches is 25.4:1.

Or an easier way = 340/38*25.4.

Either way, you get to 227 ppi. By comparison, the iPad Air 2 is 264 ppi.

I believe the 38mm number actually refers to the height of the case, not the screen. Estimating based on the resolution images Apple released, the actual screen dimensions are:

42mm: 30.3mm x 24.3mm, 38.8mm diagonal
38mm: 27.4mm x 22 mm, 35.2mm diagonal

Which means pixel densitys of 328 ppi for the 32mm, 315 ppi for the 38mm.
 
An opinion doesn’t stop something being fact.
I think a flame is hot, that’s my opinion. It also happens to be a fact.

Anyhow, they are flat, (fact), and there is less to them which makes them less interesting, (fact as they are all the same form), and not very good, (Ok maybe).

LOL. Flame being hot is not a matter of opinion.

Minimalistic design can be way more interesting than clutter. Have you never heard the expression "less is more".

How about this one... "beauty is in the eye of beholder".

Most people think Apple hardware looks better than the alternatives precisely because Jony doesn't include any unnecessary vents, seams, bevels, textures etc.

Design is subjective. ;)
 
Flat boring rubbish is your opinion not fact.

I wouldn’t waste the cycles, plus they’re not a buyer anyway. :)

Watch puns really tick me off.

Yeah, the number of watch puns in this thread is alarming, but I’m sure in time, people will start to dial back the jokes ...

<ouch>

It's so that the two have the same PPI. Otherwise, they'd have to have two different production lines for the display. This way they can produce the displays on the same fab and "cut" the right size they need for each model.

Seems simple enough. That word people keep using, it doesn’t mean what they think it means :D
 
I suspect that the leading "killer app" for this (aside from fitness) will be Apple Pay - because sometimes lifting your phone is too much work. Especially those that upgrades from a 4" phone...

Wait until the Magic Apple Ring debuts. You'll be able to pay by waving your finger. :D
 
It sad to me and disappointing how much time Apple spent on these devices yet they forget about the Apple TV, thunderbolt display, and the Mac Mini and the iPad Mini 3.... :confused:

Here's my theories on these:

AppleTV/Mac Mini - I think these product lines will be eliminated or severely cut back in effort to promote an integrated device using the best of both devices.

Thunderbolt Display - Increase the speed of the Thunderbolt port to handle 5K resolutions (I read on this site that protocol speed is a factor in releasing a stand alone 5K display, that could be wrong)

iPad Mini - Phased out when the iPad Pro is released

Granted this is all just BS in my head until Apple either confirms or denies my theories. :cool::p:D
 
I will watching this development very closely. Still on the fence if I actually want to buy one. In particular a first gen.

Yup, couldn't agree more. Also, I do love the idea of an Apple Watch, it's just that I'm not in love with the physical design. Especially at those prices.
 
That man is so in love with himself it's ridiculous lol =)

do you have any proof of that? or is it just a wild guess from your part? I'm assuming you don't know him, have never met him, nor have ever been in the same room together. just a wild guess on my part tho.
 
I fully expect iOS9 to have lots of app crippling goodness for those that choose not to buy a Watch to use with their phone.

In which case I'd either not update or move to android. I've always hated wearing watches and I'm not going to start wearing them just because Apple have made one
 
I think you need to expand your definition of a wearable. Wearables are not just for fitness/health tracking and most wearables (not the Up3) can run apps too.

I know.
I'm not convinced there's value in those watch apps is what I'm getting at.
The proof of concept for the smartwatch is still very clumsy to me.
Nothing solid yet. May change with gen 2, but there aren't really any killer features for the Watch, other than fitness, which, I believe, is already way better on a dedicated band like the UP3, today.
 
These strict guidelines are what majes iOS look tired.
ALL icons flat, in a square that is identically sized, this is one area where Android is far better than iOS.

Yeah, I've often thought the hideous mess that's the Android app screen (and UI in general) is so much better than the uniform, pretty iOS one.
 
I fully expect iOS9 to have lots of app crippling goodness for those that choose not to buy a Watch to use with their phone.

3-5 months later Apple Watch 2 releases and the old model will look stale in comparison to its successor you were on the edge whether to buy it or not.

Us MR readers might be aware of this, but Average Joe will have a fun time once he sees his friend's AW2 who tells him about the benefits of the new model...

Yes, that's how technology goes: new generation, new features, but I'm afraid that Apple is very aware of the way they push products when they know they could ship a better version shortly later.

I mean, Aperture is still on the App Store and they have no warning on there telling you you're buying into an EOL product. ;)

Glassed Silver:mac
 
OK times to get busy...

Let's start from Apps idea. Concept? Please list down what do you want to do/see on your watch according to this rule: "lightweight: accessible and dismissible quickly and easily, for both privacy and usability". Some of the ideas from http://appitventures.com/50-best-apple-watch-ideas/ are pretty neat.

1. A location beamer: 'here, I am alive...' when you are lost or have accident in unknown places (cons: need wifi/iPhone close by)
2. Next appointment in xx mins, notification through nudge (too common, I think there will be tons like this)
3. Drink water reminder, through nudge (same, too common)
4.
5.
6.
 
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I know.
I'm not convinced there's value in those watch apps is what I'm getting at.
The proof of concept for the smartwatch is still very clumsy to me.
Nothing solid yet. May change with gen 2, but there aren't really any killer features for the Watch, other than fitness, which, I believe, is already way better on a dedicated band like the UP3, today.

Everybody defines killer features differently. For some, a great camera doesn't sway their opinion of the phone; so a great camera wouldn't be a killer feature for them. But many buy the iPhones because of its superior camera.

In this case, I find that the killer feature for smart watches is the notifications, which are more easily accessible than smartphones. How many times have we misplaced the phone somewhere; regardless if it's only within 20 feet, I find it distracting to go find my phone that I may have dropped under the sofa or left in the bedroom while i'm in living room. For a watch, you can't really misplace it since it's attached to your wrist. When I get a text or I'm playing a game on the phone like Words with Friends, it's just extremely convenient to be notified of something right then and there when I'm in the middle of something else (using my PC, watching a movie, cooking..) than having to go find my phone. I know the little time it saves doesn't seem like much, but when you consider how many notifications you get, it adds up pretty nicely.

Also I can be confident that I won't miss a phone call when I completely silence my phone, as the watch will actually vibrate to let me know. It's a very subtle but very useful feature.

I cannot care less about the heart rate sensor, sleep monitorer and other health features. They're not killer features for me.
 
Are you sure the pixel dimensions of the screen are correct?

It seems you posted the point dimensions, pixel dimensions would be twice that.

38mm: 272x340 pt = 544x680 px
42mm: 312x390 pt = 624x780 px

No?

If so the image is misleading and should either use "pt" for units or show the actual pixel dimensions.

Or maybe Apple decided to give it a 1x scaling factor so that 1pt = 1px, even though they're instructing developers to include @2x images?

I'm confused.

Nope, not in this case. If your dimensions were correct then the 42mm watch would have a resolution of 660ppi which it definitely is not according to this calculation

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I know.
I'm not convinced there's value in those watch apps is what I'm getting at.
The proof of concept for the smartwatch is still very clumsy to me.
Nothing solid yet. May change with gen 2, but there aren't really any killer features for the Watch, other than fitness, which, I believe, is already way better on a dedicated band like the UP3, today.

You need to think the watch as the most personal device that is closest to you (on your skin) as opposed to your phone and the myriad of possibilities that the watch could do with that. It's akin to someone touching (nudging) you when you need:
1. reminder
2. notification
3. warning
4. comfort
5. silent/discreet communication (with other people)
6. assurance (that he/she is okay)

It's not merely fitness, although Apple would market it as such.
 
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Everybody defines killer features differently. For some, a great camera doesn't sway their opinion of the phone; so a great camera wouldn't be a killer feature for them. But many buy the iPhones because of its superior camera.

In this case, I find that the killer feature for smart watches is the notifications, which are more easily accessible than smartphones. How many times have we misplaced the phone somewhere; regardless if it's only within 20 feet, I find it distracting to go find my phone that I may have dropped under the sofa or left in the bedroom while i'm in living room. For a watch, you can't really misplace it since it's attached to your wrist. When I get a text or I'm playing a game on the phone like Words with Friends, it's just extremely convenient to be notified of something right then and there when I'm in the middle of something else (using my PC, watching a movie, cooking..) than having to go find my phone. I know the little time it saves doesn't seem like much, but when you consider how many notifications you get, it adds up pretty nicely.

Also I can be confident that I won't miss a phone call when I completely silence my phone, as the watch will actually vibrate to let me know. It's a very subtle but very useful feature.

I cannot care less about the heart rate sensor, sleep monitorer and other health features. They're not killer features for me.

fair enough.
I on the other hand, could care less for a notification that informs me of what is happening to my phone that is less than 10 feet away, and more often than not, is in my pocket. Let alone pay $350 for it (the price of the watch, the premium over that is for the jewellery luxury cost - which I accept)
but your scenarios are valid.
 
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