Now now... don't get everyone all worked up. You KNOW not everyone will catch that.
GPS battery life is a pathetic 5 hours max.
They have the data showing no one is using apps.
Going to see how my SS 42mm fares with watchOS 3 before I spring for a Series 2. Not happy with the price increase for the nylon bands.
GPS battery life is a pathetic 5 hours max. That's not nearly good enough. I have a Suunto Ambit3 Vertical that is considered poor in the battery performance arena (compared to the Ambit3 Peak, for example) because it gets only 10 hours with GPS in its best performance setting and 100 hours in its worst performance setting. The Ambit3 Peak goes from 20 hours to 200 hours, depending on GPS performance. 20 hours. It also goes an entire month on a single charge when using it like a watch. At best I got a day and a half with the first Apple Watch when I had it. Series 2 will be no better.
Out of curiosity, I just checked my recent activity and found where I hiked Yonah Mountain. The entire round-trip took 5 hours and 4 minutes to complete including stopping at various landmarks. That means that if I didn't top off the Apple Watch right before setting out, it wouldn't have lasted the entire hike. That also means that if I did top off the Apple Watch right before setting out, it still likely wouldn't have lasted the entire hike considering that I would have received notifications, activated the screen, interacted with the watch, etc.
A 5 hour hike is nothing. I have been on bike rides that last longer than that, and once again, the Apple Watch wouldn't be able to keep up. Maybe one day it will, but right now... nope.
My Ambit3 Vertical is 15mm. The Ambit3 Peak is 18mm. The Garmin Fenix 3 is 16mm (and that doesn't include the HR bump on the HR model). The Garmin Epix is 17.8mm. The 42mm Apple Watch is average at best and not something I would call "one of the thickest watches out there."
The irony is high, but not everyone's irony-radar will be switched on.
Now now... don't get everyone all worked up. You KNOW not everyone will catch that.
Yes, a phone that is .9mm thicker and has 20% more battery would be great. The watch? It's pretty chunky already.
wonder if you can turn off gpsI'm wondering if it would really be the same if you didn't use the GPS in the Series 2. Apple lists the battery life as the same 18 hours for the Series 1 and Series 2 even tho the Series 2 is thinker for maybe a bigger battery and has a GPS.
If it has the bigger battery and you don't use the GPS then the battery life should be longer in the Series 2 since the Series 1 has the same CPU upgrade and maybe the original size battery since its thiner.
I was hoping for an in-store upgrade if form factor has not changed... I don't buy watches every year and am not about to start now. Keeping the form factor, yet the option to swap out guts, get a credit on the guts etc. would be great. I don't need a new case and watch bands, i DO need better performance and greater independence from the iPhone. Guess I'll be waiting several more years before making any $$ decisions in this regard.interesting. I wonder how many AW1 owners will upgrade, especially those with SS models.
GPS battery life is a pathetic 5 hours max. That's not nearly good enough. I have a Suunto Ambit3 Vertical that is considered poor in the battery performance arena (compared to the Ambit3 Peak, for example) because it gets only 10 hours with GPS in its best performance setting and 100 hours in its worst performance setting. The Ambit3 Peak goes from 20 hours to 200 hours, depending on GPS performance. 20 hours. It also goes an entire month on a single charge when using it like a watch. At best I got a day and a half with the first Apple Watch when I had it. Series 2 will be no better.
Out of curiosity, I just checked my recent activity and found where I hiked Yonah Mountain. The entire round-trip took 5 hours and 4 minutes to complete including stopping at various landmarks. That means that if I didn't top off the Apple Watch right before setting out, it wouldn't have lasted the entire hike. That also means that if I did top off the Apple Watch right before setting out, it still likely wouldn't have lasted the entire hike considering that I would have received notifications, activated the screen, interacted with the watch, etc.
A 5 hour hike is nothing. I have been on bike rides that last longer than that, and once again, the Apple Watch wouldn't be able to keep up. Maybe one day it will, but right now... nope.
My Ambit3 Vertical is 15mm. The Ambit3 Peak is 18mm. The Garmin Fenix 3 is 16mm (and that doesn't include the HR bump on the HR model). The Garmin Epix is 17.8mm. The 42mm Apple Watch is average at best and not something I would call "one of the thickest watches out there."
I couldn't care less about it having its own GPS. I always have my phone with me, so its unnecessary. I think they should have put the GPS in the new Nike version, and made the new series 2 thinner with better battery life. Outside of their favorite customers, runners, who needs separate GPS?
I cant remember the last time Apple released a product that was thicker and heavier than the previous model.
You still have to carry your iPhone to make it work so I don't see the point in wearing one.
Maybe they’re changing their mind on their thinness objective.