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do you need the apple AirPods to use the phone capabilities of the apple watch or will any bluetooth headphone work? I assume there is no speaker in the apple watch.

There is most definitely a speaker in the AW. It it even plays a tune when you’re done swimming to eject the water from it, haha!!

I know the AW allows third-party BT heart rate sensors to connect, I imagine that other BT headsets would be ok, too.
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It definitely has Bluetooth. As for Ant+ they probably did not support it by intention. Unfortunate in a way - I see that point of view and agree somewhat. Too bad for cycling power meters etc, but really the power meter guys and all the Garmin's etc of this world need to pick up their game and comply with what Apple wants, not the reverse. I was going to spend $2000.00 on a cycling power meter, but then found out it didn't have Bluetooth! Stupid decision by the company I'd say. Not every Triathlete is so dedicated that he would not consider using an Apple Watch or iPhone. I've had Garmin's etc, but became curious if my iPhone could do nearly as good and with more convenience. It ended up that I sold all my Garmin stuff and I am happier with what I can do with my iPhone and Apple Watch now, and I look back at the years of all the irritating ANT+ USB dongles and silly charging cables for these old Garmin GPS watch things and will never go back probably.

Amen...I’m always amazed when I get out of the pool and see that my AW2 perfectly tracked my yardage for each swim stroke. It so good it’s almost spooky. It also tracks my HR on the swim, something my Garmin 920XT would only do with a dedicated chest strap.

AW2 works so well that I haven’t strapped on my 920XT in months. Now that watchOS 4 allows quick workout switching, I’ll be selling my 920XT.

LTE will be icing on an already tasty cake!! I’m ordering two AW3’s this Friday@12:01.
 
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Apple should implement activity-tracking-only mode to improve the battery life to couple of days to kill Fitbit watch.

Of course, they would also have to reduce their prices quite a bit to do that ;-)
 
do you need the apple AirPods to use the phone capabilities of the apple watch or will any bluetooth headphone work? I assume there is no speaker in the apple watch.

Why do you assume there is no speaker on the Apple Watch? Start with that.

Did you ever make a phone call with an older Apple Watch? You did not need "headphones"
 
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Why do you assume there is no speaker on the Apple Watch? Start with that.

Did you ever make a phone call with an older Apple Watch? Did you need "headphones"?

No.

So many assumptions and chicken little stories on these threads.

What are you planning to do about the 1 hour battery life? Lol

Thanks for the friendly reply to a simple question.
 
Thanks for the friendly reply to a simple question.

I assume you are not sarcastic. :).

Sorry - I apologize for biting you for that question - That came across as being mean spirited - it's just hard to take all the negative assumptions from folks and I feel drawn in to respond somehow.

I wish there were more positive "assumptions".
 
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I assume you are not sarcastic. :).

Sorry - it's just hard to take all the negative assumptions from folks and I feel drawn in to respond somehow.

I don't own an apple watch and I did not know if the apple watch has a speaker and even if it has a speaker I did not know if the speaker was good enough for voice calls. That was not a negative assumption, it was just a honest question.

I think the AW3 is a great device with LTE and since I would use voice calls more for emergency or short urgent calls it's unlikely that I would have headphones with me. Now that i know that the speaker can do that the watch looks very interesting to me.
 
I don't own an apple watch and I did not know if the apple watch has a speaker and even if it has a speaker I did not know if the speaker was good enough for voice calls. That was not a negative assumption, it was just a honest question.

I think the AW3 is a great device with LTE and since I would use voice calls more for emergency or short urgent calls it's unlikely that I would have headphones with me. Now that i know that the speaker can do that the watch looks very interesting to me.

Yep, and with an older Apple Watch (Any version) you can answer calls within 10m bluetooth range of your iPhone. Handy for when you are mowing the lawn and left your iPhone in the house or on the deck. I have used it dozens of times to answer my calls when I roam the house. Sorry again for coming across as rude.

Now with LTE cellular, you can stream music without needing an iPhone and lots of things. Siri can talk back audibly - maybe due to cellular or maybe it's just the new watch OS that enables the Siri talking audibly. Before Siri responses would only be written in text.
 
The 18-hour usage metric includes 90 time checks, 90 notifications, 45 minutes of app use, and a 30-minute workout with music playback, and on the LTE model, it includes 4 hours of LTE connection and 14 hours of connection to iPhone via Bluetooth.


Can't you just turn OFF GPS and use only LTE? Is there anyway to turn OFF location services in the watch settings?
 
I do not understand why Apple did not improve the battery life of the Apple Watch? It makes no logical sense.
 
The thing is, if you take a five minute call and it depletes your battery 10% that's quite a bit. You may not use your phone for an hour at a time but you also don't want a handful of quick calls to run your battery to 50%.

It's genuinely a non issue - if you're walking around talking into your wrist for more than an hour a day, you're a tit. You should be using a phone and working at the office.
 
Now with LTE cellular, you can stream music without needing an iPhone and lots of things. Siri can talk back audibly - maybe due to cellular or maybe it's just the new watch OS that enables the Siri talking audibly. Before Siri responses would only be written in text.

Siri can talk in series 3because of the new dual core chip faster than the previous one, so it will talk on the wi-fi only model as well.
That's maybe the only feature I'll miss sticking with my series 1. Using Siri hands free is handy when you have a feedback, like read my messages, but if I have to glance at the display I can read stuff myself
 
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My Garmin Forerunner 235 lasts 7-9 days with about 4-5 morning 5K runs, GPS and GLONASS turned on, heart-rate monitor and bluetooth running at all times, screen on at all times. I just don't get the Apple Watch...
 
My Garmin Forerunner 235 lasts 7-9 days with about 4-5 morning 5K runs, GPS and GLONASS turned on, heart-rate monitor and bluetooth running at all times, screen on at all times. I just don't get the Apple Watch...

The FR235 screen is a dull transflective LCD with a weak backlight. Completely different thing.

The FR235 also has no wifi, and its level of interaction with a phone as well as its app capabilities pale in comparison to the AW2.

It *is* however a good running watch and that is why I've kept mine.
 
The FR235 screen is a dull transflective LCD with a weak backlight. Completely different thing.

The FR235 also has no wifi, and its level of interaction with a phone as well as its app capabilities pale in comparison to the AW2.

It *is* however a good running watch and that is why I've kept mine.

Well, I am clearly not the target-customer here - though I probably represent the most common use-case. :) From my perspective the screen (2017 edition) on the Garmin FR235 is plenty bright and colourful and provides all the smart features I need in my life on a daily basis.

I've had several other smartwatches in the past: Samsung, Moto 360, Pebble (3 versions of it), and everything that a high def touch-screen offered, I ultimately found to be irrelevant. Wi-Fi on my watch, again, I don't see how that would improve my life. I think that while many people bought and buy an Apple Watch, most of them use it out of sheer loyalty, cool factor or for notifications. And then there's some (maybe 20%) who use it for staying fit. You take those 2 major features (notifications and fitness) and you get exactly what the Garmin (or any other smartwatch with 5+ days battery life) is: a great smartwatch with excellent battery life.

Don't get me wrong. I love Apple and for 90% of the stuff they make I can find rational explanations as to why they're better than the competitors. But the Apple Watch and the AirPods I just cannot...
 
From my perspective the screen (2017 edition) on the Garmin FR235 is plenty bright and colourful and provides all the smart features I need in my life on a daily basis.
You're certainly welcome to your opinion, but my December 2015 FR235's screen is by no means what I would call either bright or colorful (or even colourful). I highly doubt Garmin completely revamped the screen technology within a model, so we can just attribute the difference in perception as a matter of opinion.

As to the smartwatch features, I'll have to see if Garmin's made any improvements but I highly doubt they're anywhere on par with the AW2. My FR235 is on 7.30.0.0

I've had several other smartwatches in the past: Samsung, Moto 360, Pebble (3 versions of it), and everything that a high def touch-screen offered, I ultimately found to be irrelevant. Wi-Fi on my watch, again, I don't see how that would improve my life. I think that while many people bought and buy an Apple Watch, most of them use it out of sheer loyalty, cool factor or for notifications. And then there's some (maybe 20%) who use it for staying fit. You take those 2 major features (notifications and fitness) and you get exactly what the Garmin (or any other smartwatch with 5+ days battery life) is: a great smartwatch with excellent battery life.
Wifi on the watch serves to maintain connection to the phone while at home yet out of bluetooth range. It also allows some items I suppose to directly get data from the internet for weather, stocks, Siri, etc. Wifi isn't really something the user interacts with though.

The fundamental difference I found in transitioning from the Garmin to Apple Watch as a daily-wear is that while the Garmin would provide notifications, the Apple Watch provided the ability to do something with them. i.e. acknowledge a text with a thumbs-up emoji, or even make a short reply either via dictation, canned response, or drawing letters if needed. With reminders, a tap on the screen marks the item complete -- handy with a grocery list for instance. I can arm or disarm my home security system from the watch, and do this fairly often. I frequently use the Siri capability while at home with my phone in different room; setting a timer while cooking, adding something to a reminder list, setting a calendar reminder, etc. I even used the phone camera remote capability to identify a circuit breaker for an overhead light one day; left my phone in the room with the camera facing the light and could view it on the watch while down in the basement at the breaker panel.

Much of what I use my AW2 for are things I didn't realize I could do with it until I owned it.

So I can certainly understand your skepticism being that you're sort of on the outside looking in. I'd suggest giving one a try and see if you find it to be more useful as an everyday watch than the Garmin.

Oh - about battery life -- really while I charge my watch every day it's seldom below 50% battery when I go to bed and thus could realistically be an every-other-day charge item in my typical usage. My FR235 as an everyday watch would last about 5 days.

Still, it's really kind of moot for me. I don't wear a watch to bed. I take it off and set it on the nightstand or dresser. With the Apple Watch I simply put the charger button there and set the watch on it as I go to bed. It doesn't make a difference whether it's every day or every other day or every five days, the action of setting it on the nightstand doesn't change.
 
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Yes, I think you are correct, and if I understand this article, it will get up to 4 hours when LTE connected without an iPhone nearby. When an iPhone is nearby, the Watch can piggy back on lower power drain alternatives (e.g Bluetooth or Wifi) and gets longer battery life.

So, this tells me that you will need to carry your iphone around with you anyway most of the time. Besides, there are so many things a phone can do that would be just a horrible experience on the tiny Watch display. And, of course, don't forget the camera. iPhone is the most used camera in the world. The notion that people will leave their phones at home to meet friends at a coffe shop or event seems silly. Who wants to share photos on a watch?


THIS! this is all people need to know/worry about the 4 hours of battery on lte so be ready to charge your watch 4/5 times a day

so you charge at night thats #1 lets say you wake up at 7am and have to be at work at 9

7-12 (I'm adding an extra hour to battery because everyone will have their phone lets be real)

the time from 12-1pm is spent charging the watch (I'm guessing it will take an hour) charge #2

1-6pm (time to go home if it takes you an hour to get to work your watch should/maybe die before you get home)

now if you wait till 4:30 to recharge again before you leave thats #3 (you still charge at 12 noon) you should be at 30% so a 30min charge should put you back at 80%

so from 5pm you should be able to make it to 9pm with


a lot of people work out so an hour long working out where you stream apple music over your watch should put you in that 4/5 charge a day world
 
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Apple still doesn’t know what to do with the Apple Watch. I use mine on the daily but it’s not ~great~ at doing anything it does.
 
I have an original Apple Watch (Series 0?) and was thinking about upgrading to the Series 3. I was hoping that it'd support Bluetooth 5 like the iPhone 8 for the increased range and speed, but the Series 3 is still using Bluetooth 4.2 unfortunately.
 
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