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Apple is now firmly back to iPod-style domination for the wearables market.

No competitor has the money and/or the incentive (as they already lost tons of money on their failed wearables efforts) to research&develop the futuristic tech Apple is expected to deliver in the next years.

This is Apple's game to play, and win, for the foreseeable future.

But many here will claim the Watch is a flop. Even without official data from Apple as to sales every analyst and tracking survey points to absolute domination in the category. We never hear a peep out of analysts about Samsung, Moto, or any of the other 'smartwatch' contenders. Traditional watch makers are fully aware of the Watch. The market be still be nascent but it's clear Apple is in charge of it. But the naysayers will drag out the Fitbits and other dedicated fitness trackers as proof the Watch is a flop, much like the naysayers drag out all the cheap Android POS phones to claim victory over the iPhone.
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Until they make it round, i'll never get it.

Pffft!
 
It needs to have a longer battery life and be thinner....two things that Apple tout in every product release but the Apple Watch which needs this.
 
I can imagine apple watch with face time. I can also imagine how many perverts will film everything, everywhere. I just wish we had just a proper home kit devices that would actually work.
 
So I want blood pressure and glucose monitoring to consider upgrading to the new version. I have version one and love it. But can't justify an updated version with only small iterations.
 
Left Side or Top or Bottom of Watch case for inclusion of a SIM card tray? Or, something completely different?

I'd like to see what Apple will do with such limited space if they go with cellular connectivity. If they were to proceed with this idea, I can see it being an extra boost for air pod sales through Bluetooth connectivity possibly attracting undecided potential customers of the air pods.

That said, I can see the need for a separate Data Plan for the Watch in such circumstances not being that attractive. It's really interesting to see this product develop which I believe is still very much a "work in progress".
 
Cell connection would be a welcome addition. I mostly still need either faster watch or faster apps. For example, my screen rotates between “the weather”, dark sky, and weather underground. Why? Because none of their complications ever update frequently making the data displayed useless. Even with them in the dock there is only stale data. It drives me nuts and honestly to me is what is holding back my user experience. Love it for fitness, but I don’t run 14 hours a day, I need the face to be useful the 13 hours I’m not working out.
 
Same form factor? Ugh. I have an AW but although I like functionally and integration with the iPhone, it's ugly IMO. It has no elegance and is as thick as an 80s casio watch. Of all things Apple tries to make thin, the Apple watch needs thinning the most.
 
Cell connectivity and I'm in, so long as they don't charge more than $10/mo for data.
 
To be fair, the first one was announced then but not released until April. The next one was released in September. That's only two data points, so we don't really have a pattern to know if it's closer to an 18 month cycle, which is why the rumor is interesting.
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I think a good system would be to update it every 18 months, and release a new material or color and new bands around the 9 month mark.

Well, I plunked down $800 (with AppleCare) for a series 0 42mm stainless steel w/Milanese Loop band in 2015 so I will not be in the upgrade market for some time yet. My Watch currently does everything it was advertised to do and I'm happy with it.
 
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I'm not sure Apple know's that there's 4 quarters in a year that you can release products and software.
 
I don't get the cellular connectivity. I am rarely without my phone, but more importantly, let's say that the cost of an additional device on a cell plan, after taxes and fees is around $50 per month. That is $600 a year. Sorry, but that's a lot of money to make and receive phone calls on my watch, send and receive messages and listen to music. Especially when it is just for times when I don't have my phone within range of the watch.

Maybe people are more wealth than me, but I just don't get it.
 
You mean it'll be announced the same time all past models have been?! No way! Next you'll tell me that products will be announced at WWDC and the iPhone in the fall

Hello everyone!

In fact, only last year models were announced in September, so HALF of the past models. It's not like the iPhone history at this point.

But it's completely understandable that you are angry about your life and you have to be mean in the comments of a free website…
 
My wife and I both bought the stainless series 2. We both love the watch and the fact that it isn't round is part of what sets it off from other watches. I hope they maintain the current design and doubt they will change it much if or when they do because there will be too many people pissed off with bands that don't work with a round watch.

As far as the people who say its too fat, chunky, etc, etc. Every time I read one of those comments it tells me right away that it's from someone who doesn't own an Apple Watch. When it's on your wrist it is less chunky than many modern, conventional watches that are sold today.

I have a 42mm and actually wish they made a third, larger version.
 
Well, I plunked down $800 (with AppleCare) for a series 0 42mm stainless steel w/Milanese Loop band in 2015 so I will not be in the upgrade market for some time yet. My Watch currently does everything it was advertised to do and I'm happy with it.
Yeah, I'm still pretty happy with my Series 0 42mm stainless steel w/Milanese Loop band, except for the hairline crack down the edge of the display that's barely visible and reduces the water resistance. From what I can tell, the newer models aren't significantly faster at loading apps, and I have no need for cellular in my Watch. So I'll probably upgrade at Series 4 at the earliest unless the new one has some crazy new functionality (especially for blood pressure monitoring) or something happens to my current one.
 
Cell connectivity and I'm in, so long as they don't charge more than $10/mo for data.

Wouldn't that depend on your carrier? How much data for $10? how much data could a watch use anyway? No web browser, music streaming is pretty data efficient and I don't think you would want to watch Avatar on your wristwatch.
 
Apple is now firmly back to iPod-style domination for the wearables market.

No competitor has the money and/or the incentive (as they already lost tons of money on their failed wearables efforts) to research&develop the futuristic tech Apple is expected to deliver in the next years.

This is Apple's game to play, and win, for the foreseeable future.

Personally, I like a device that lasts more than a day. I just bought a Fitbit Charge 2. I'm on day 5 with 50% battery left.
 
Bring on the "I want an iPhone strapped onto my wrist" brigade.

Cellular.... it's not an iPhone
Facetime camera.... it's not an iPhone

Always on screen..... why?

And regarding a redesign not happening due to current band design/mechanism.... there's scope to more than half the thickness before that becomes an issue.... but why make it thinner?
 
The only thing that would make the watch better is thinner. Better battery life might be meaningful on long runs (>2 hours) when using the GPS and bluetooth. But that is the only situation the battery ever gives trouble. If it was a little faster - maybe. But thinner would be great.
 
Personally, I like a device that lasts more than a day. I just bought a Fitbit Charge 2. I'm on day 5 with 50% battery left.

Straw man argument. The Fitbit is a fitness tracker and nothing else. You can't even compare it to the Watch. If the Fitbit were an actual competitor and had all the functions of the Watch it wouldn't get any better battery life than than the Watch. It's like comparing a $100 entry level Android phone with the iPhone 7 or Samsung Galaxy 8.
 
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But many here will claim the Watch is a flop. Even without official data from Apple as to sales every analyst and tracking survey points to absolute domination in the category. We never hear a peep out of analysts about Samsung, Moto, or any of the other 'smartwatch' contenders. Traditional watch makers are fully aware of the Watch. The market be still be nascent but it's clear Apple is in charge of it. But the naysayers will drag out the Fitbits and other dedicated fitness trackers as proof the Watch is a flop, much like the naysayers drag out all the cheap Android POS phones to claim victory over the iPhone.

It's not that Apple watch is a flop, it's a big fish in a small pond. Smartwatches in general are NOT living up to their hype and most companies have already picked up on that and are moving on to AR. Most people I know have fitness trackers, which Fitbit seems to be a favorite with a few having smart watches which the Apple watch is the favorite.
 
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