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Yes, when you are working out. No, when you are not.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204666

that support article is based on the S3 and earlier design. we are hoping the S4 with its for the first time redesigned optical HR sensor has 24/7 monitoring because with more modern lower energy green LEDs the competition from Garmin and Fitbit has been able to do so for the last TWO YEARS. Crossing my fingers but doubtful.
 
.3mm thinner? That's 1/100th of an inch. Not sure that is much of a marketing differentiator.

You may want to double check your metric conversions. .3 mm is just shy 1/8 of an inch, not 1/100. Or instead of your 0.01 (1/100) it'd be 0.1181 as a decimal.
 
Apple confirmed in their keynote that, even though the unit is physically larger, the fact that they are thinner allows for the unit to actually take up less volume. To me, that means that even though it IS bigger, it doesn’t really *feel* like it on your wrist — which is what matters.

Call that marketing. Of course they're gonna say that. Many men wearing the larger model, anyways. These days, no-one at Apple seems to consider smaller women wrists/hands (same with iPhones...while I love my X, I did have to change the way I use it just because my hands are too small). In reality, 2 mm in footprint make a BIG difference. 0.7 mm in thickness do not. It doesn't matter if the overall volume is smaller as that may sound nice on paper, but in reality it depends on the way it actually LOOKS. And just based on the pictures, it does not look...fitting/harmonic.

Contrary to popular believe, bigger is not always better...
 
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Apple says the larger displays provide 32 percent and 35 percent more viewing area on the new 40mm and 44mm models respectively
I’ve seen this incorrectly stated in multiple places online. The 40mm is 35% larger than 38mm, while 44mm is 32% larger than 42mm. Source:
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Can anyone confirm that the speaker is 50% louder and that sound quality has improved?
Some hands-on reviews stated that they did notice it was louder, but actually measuring it next to impossible in a demo area. Wait for the hands-on reviews to start dropping next week for definitive confirmation.
[doublepost=1536799258][/doublepost]Also, unlikely that any of the members posting here were actually at the event to definitively confirm.
 
Watch updates was also my main anticipation and I’m quite stoked now. Still the keynote left me with a lot of questions. For example...

1. How does the new (single!) heart rate sensor score on accuracy? I thought the key for a good reading was having several sensors/lights.

2. The speaker is twice as loud (impressive!), but have they managed improvements in sound quality?

3. Still emphasis on sports, but are running and swimming still the main focus areas of research and upgrades in features? Bicycling anyone?

4. Does the fall alert not register if you pass out before you fall? It would be a different fall pattern than demonstrated, not swinging arms forwards or upwards/back.

5. What’s with the international availability?! Is carrier network, economic model or other carrier tech obstacles what stalls international rollout? (I suppose it’s all on the local carriers) I live in Norway and the LTE model is still not available here. Would be nice with a little idea of what’s stopping them so we could get some estimate on how long we have to wait for the full watch line.

6. How noticeable will the bump to Bluetooth 5.0 be? I think it’s really odd that Apple doesn’t show off some numbers for Bluetooth improvements over previous models (maybe that’s just me, I’m starting to realize that everyone isn’t as excited about the possibilities in the new Bluetooth standard).

Did the hands on experience or employees answer any of the questions?
 
You may want to double check your metric conversions. .3 mm is just shy 1/8 of an inch, not 1/100. Or instead of your 0.01 (1/100) it'd be 0.1181 as a decimal.
.3mm= 0.011811 inches. She's been lying to you about size, but that's ok.
 
You may want to double check your metric conversions. .3 mm is just shy 1/8 of an inch, not 1/100. Or instead of your 0.01 (1/100) it'd be 0.1181 as a decimal.
No, 3mm is just shy of 1/8 inch.

But OP was wrong, the new watch is 0.7mm thinner, not 0.3mm. That’s just under 0.03 inches. It sounds small but it’s noticeable.
 
3 mm is just shy of 1/8 inch. .3 mm would be 10% of that.
Shhh. He's happy with his measurement. Let him be.
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No, 3mm is just shy of 1/8 inch.

But OP was wrong, the new watch is 0.7mm thinner, not 0.3mm. That’s just under 0.03 inches. It sounds small but it’s noticeable.
You are correct. Nice catch!
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Shhh. He's happy with his measurement. Let him be.
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You are correct. Nice catch!
.7mm is less than 3/100ths of an inch. That's YUGE!!!!!!!!
 
Interesting note, the new 40mm Series 4 actually has a larger display (in area) than the old 42mm Series 3. It's also thinner by 0.7mm. So, they've actually reduced the size and added more features over the old 42mm Series 3.

However, the 44mm Series 4 is bigger than the previously largest size, the 42mm Series 3. Maybe they should have called the new 44mm the Apple Watch MAX. ;)

Here is a link to the Apple Store where you can compare the size and features of both models (Series 3 and 4):
https://www.apple.com/watch/compare/
 
I'd like to see some comparisons of the 38mm & 40mm.

I'm a fan of the smaller 38.....so I'd be moving up to the 40mm, but I felt like the 38 was the sweet spot!

It's going to be a little bloated by comparison. I was surprised to see this, and more surprised that they were able to make the original bands fit the new dimensions. I can't wait to see the schematics on this thing ...

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I am truly excited about the Apple Watch series 4. The new heart rate sensors look awesome. I can’t decide between the Stainless or the Space Black.
 
Disappointed in the sizes. 44mm is too big in my opinion. 42 was perfect, probably won't buy the new one now.
 
Is it? The technology is awesome but less than 2% of Americans have even occasional Afib. The technology records your ECG (and only when you manually choose to) but really that only has use for giving to a physician. I *totally* understand how this will save lives and be incredibly useful if you have Afib but for most it will be an extra cost with no real use at all. Now let me contrast that with the optical HR sensor that has been built into this watch... that provides warning for high, low, and Afib heart conditions (which most won't have, but it also does it with no user input which is great) while at the same time being a practical tool for nearly everyone being used to track heart rate during exercise (a test of conditioning) and HR during the entire day (all helping create more accurate calorie burns for everyone.) I'm not against it but this reminds me of cellular last year when most of us went "oh wow" when the lady made a call while windsurfing but then almost none of us used it or kept it after our trials because we take the phone with us everywhere anyway. for the privilege of the ECG (only useable in the USA for now, and even there only later this fall) and the better screen the watch costs $100 more across the board.
It’s a small cost for peace of mind too. Consider it like a form of insurance if you’re not worried about afib today.
 
I don’t see Apple’s mix and max feature on their website. I have a number of bands with white lugs. I want to see how they look with the gold SS watch. I hope they bring that feature back.
 
Huge Apple product user here... Apple Watch was my main hope for this keynote, and while it looks good, they still lack in a few areas FitBit has them smoked in:

1. Sleep tracking
2. Battery Life

I am really on the fence here. I love the products, hate the price, and feel like some basic features are missing when FitBit can deliver this stuff on a $150 device.
How does Fitbit have Apple smoked in sleep tracking?
 
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I am wearing 42mm now. should I get 40mm or 44mm? I am thinking to get Hermes this year.. I really need your help..
 
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