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5. What’s with the international availability?! Is carrier network, economic model or other carrier tech obstacles what stalls international rollout? (I suppose it’s all on the local carriers) I live in Norway and the LTE model is still not available here. Would be nice with a little idea of what’s stopping them so we could get some estimate on how long we have to wait for the full watch line.
Check local Apple webpage, you can find if your carrier supports LTE.
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Apple really missed the mark by not offering a Blood Pressure monitoring solution this year!
Is there any device you can wear for hours also monitor blood pressure?
 
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so aggravating. the Hermes has the most elegant faces, and the Nike the best digital face. Neither are on my SS watch that costs $650 (soon to be the $750 S4 version). What is Apple thinking? The new faces are cool and colorful but some us want to wear these in professional or elegant settings too!

Wait, what? You can’t install faces from another line? They’re wired to your model? How ridiculous is that.
 
That has not changed from series 3
Yep. That and the official death of the 4” iPhone screen made yesterday a disappointing day for me. Oh well. I’ll get larger pockets and grow larger thumbs in the name of progress. As for my $500 watch band, maybe it’d make a nice bracelet.
 
Huge Apple product user here... Apple Watch was my main hope for this keynote, and while it looks good, they still lack in a few areas FitBit has them smoked in:

1. Sleep tracking
2. Battery Life

I am really on the fence here. I love the products, hate the price, and feel like some basic features are missing when FitBit can deliver this stuff on a $150 device.


wut.....sleep tracking on the watch is MUCH better than the fitbit.....perhaps you should buy one instead of making false statements.

battery life is 2-3 days wearing all night for me. not sure why you would need more than that unless you sleep in the jungle.
 
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Apple confirmed in their keynote that, even though the unit is physically larger, the fact that they are thinner allows for the unit to actually take up less volume. To me, that means that even though it IS bigger, it doesn’t really *feel* like it on your wrist — which is what matters.
Except, compared to the original Apple Watch (10.5mm) the Series 4 is actually thicker at 10.7mm! This new form factor is in practice not thinner than the original form factor.
 
I have a series 1 SS Milanese loop watch and was hoping for an obvious upgrade option from the announcements... but I’m not sure it exists.

Here’s the issue. I have lots of SS bands, with matching strap lugs, so I’d really want another SS body on a new watch.

That means I have to have a cellular model, but my phone network (three,
UK), don’t support cellular Apple Watch. So to get an SS series 4, I have to buy a cellular device that I can’t use (nor particularly want/need), or switch mobile network provider (which I certainly don’t want to do).
The cost difference is for the casing, not specifically for the LTE. You are paying for the capability and not using it. But the real cost is in the difference of casing.
 
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According to the specs, the 44mm watch is 1.5mm taller, and 1.6mm wider. Conversely, the 40mm is going to be 2.5mm shorter, and 2.6mm narrower than your current watch. So the question for you is, do you want your new watch be a lot smaller, or slightly larger? Only way to really tell is to try it on.

44: 44Hx38W
40: 40Hx34W

42: 42.5Hx36.4W
38: 38.6Hx33.3W


Yes, but the new 40mm has more display area than the old 42mm:
https://www.apple.com/watch/compare/
I will buy the 40mm to replace my 42 or perhaps buy the 44 I will take a decision today.
 
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I wish the stock Apple Watch faces didn't look like ridiculous toys. I had to buy an Hermès edition to get an attractive face. What's more, if I wanted the Nike watch faces, I'd have to buy a whole separate Apple Watch. It'd be great if Apple just opened a Watch Face section of the App Store. They'd sell like crazy.
SPOT ON.
 
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And suddenly, when you look at those hands on pictures, the display isn't so much edge to edge anymore with that big bezels...
 
Anyone know if that new watch face will be on the series 3 or not?
All of them are now live. Except the one with 5million complications.

Won’t work till Monday tho when watch os 5 rolls....!
 

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1. Sleep tracking
2. Battery Life

There are numerous really good sleep tracker apps for Apple Watch. I have a Beddit, and (with the exception of respiration tracking) the Apple Watch apps give nearly identical results to the Beddit.

The battery life on the S3 is really good. It easily lasts 2 days. If you’re looking for more, Apple Watch isn’t for you.

With the additional functionality added by the App Store, the Apple Watch is an incredible device. For me it’s indispensible.
 
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Just noticed that if you don’t want cellular, you can’t get stainless. So much for my upgrade. Crap!

I think it’s more like, if you don’t want cellular, you buy the watch anyway and don’t enable it. Of course you’re still paying for the cellular radio, but it doesn’t mean you have to subscribe to a cellular plan.
 
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I think having cellular is so beneficial when it comes to the walkie talkie app. I can see myself using that all the time. And with acrivities like snowboarding where my phone is usually hanging onto it's life because of the cold; my watch will stay nice and warm under my gloves and other gear.
 
Check local Apple webpage, you can find if your carrier supports LTE.
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Is there any device you can wear for hours also monitor blood pressure?

Thanks for picking up my post
My carrier (Telia) was actually the first one in the world to roll out LTE for commercial use (Stockholm + Oslo), and as far as I know all carriers in Norway have supported LTE for some years now. So I’m wandering what’s ACTUALLY keeping them from selling the LTE Watch here (+Sweden). Maybe we’ll never get to know, but I think some info on the reason could help give an estimate of how much more we have to wait.

Looking forward for the early adopters to answer those other questions of mine though.
 
When you say “obvious reasons” I assume you mean the new display sizes. Except here’s the thing ... the watch face on the 44mm is scaled down to fit the 40mm, which new display area is about the same size as the old 42mm display area. So at a minimum the 42mm could have the same size display that the new 40mm has. The 38mm would probably have to scale down the display too much, but heck with such a sharp display, I’d like the option.

It’s probably more about the processor needed to keep 8 complications updating in real time.
But the SOC on the S3 is 32bit and dual core to the new 64bit 6 core one on the S4. I would think the new complications rely on 64bit to save battery life more so than just mere scaling of the UI.
 
I think it’s more like, if you don’t want cellular, you buy the watch anyway and don’t enable it. Of course you’re still paying for the cellular radio, but it doesn’t mean you have to subscribe to a cellular plan.
Forgive me but that’s pretty ridiculous. Spend $200-$300 more for a feature you don’t want in order to get the material you do. I’ve got a $500 watch band that won’t match a new AW unless I waste a buttload if money.
 
So how many nm is the S4?

I won't buy another cellular Apple Watch until it supports 5G, I think at that point cellular could become useful on it.
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I think having cellular is so beneficial when it comes to the walkie talkie app. I can see myself using that all the time. And with acrivities like snowboarding where my phone is usually hanging onto it's life because of the cold; my watch will stay nice and warm under my gloves and other gear.

Ah, but does the Walkie Talkie work peer to peer WiFi, say if you are at a state fair, assume no cellular. If not, that is a fail by Apple if you ask me!
 
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My carrier (Telia) was actually the first one in the world to roll out LTE for commercial use (Stockholm + Oslo), and as far as I know all carriers in Norway have supported LTE for some years now. So I’m wandering what’s ACTUALLY keeping them from selling the LTE Watch here (+Sweden). Maybe we’ll never get to know, but I think some info on the reason could help give an estimate of how much more we have to wait.

Looking forward for the early adopters to answer those other questions of mine though.

In the UK only EE has LTE over Apple Watch, seems like some carriers simply don't bother offering e-sim service for such devices. If there are other reasons I wouldn't know. :)
 
I think it’s more like, if you don’t want cellular, you buy the watch anyway and don’t enable it. Of course you’re still paying for the cellular radio, but it doesn’t mean you have to subscribe to a cellular plan.

I bought the S3 cellular and have not enabled it yet, I figured it was worth doubling the storage. The watch is still way too dependent on the iPhone to justify an extra $120+/yr for cellular, IMHO.
 
Forgive me but that’s pretty ridiculous. Spend $200-$300 more for a feature you don’t want in order to get the material you do. I’ve got a $500 watch band that won’t match a new AW unless I waste a buttload if money.
As I have mentioned in other threads, you are paying more for MORE than just the cellular bands in the device. The entire casing is different, as is the front glass. MAYBE $50 of the price increase is for the bands (royalties + hardware).
 
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