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I have a feeling you’re probably right, sadly. I’m looking forward to the day when the Apple Watch can be a more feasible sleep tracker. Right now if you exercise with one of the workouts that uses the sensors, you’re lucky if it doesn’t ask you to charge before going to bed, then charge it when you wake up before you exercise. It threw off my exercise rhythm so much as the Apple Watch doesn’t charge very fast. I just stopped using the sleep tracking feature.

Hoping Apple can work some magic, as the ability to have a true multi-day watch would really help a lot. I think the exercise/sleep combo would be hard to beat with a larger battery.

Same here. It seems lately that every time I turn around my Series 4 is below 10 or 20% and I'm just about to leave the house. I also stay at our "project house" (eventual retirement destination) on weekends to work on it and I would rather not have to drag a charger along.

So, what I did was, I ordered a Prime Day Garmin Venu yesterday to see what's happening on that side of the fence. Without boring everyone too much, some of the coolest AW features aren't always practical or reliable for one reason or another, and the ones leftover, for me, boil down to contactless payments, GPS/workouts, and onboard music, which are also on the Garmin. But the Venu adds a round face and 5 days' battery life. I'm not under any illusion about the UI design and responsiveness compared to the AW, but we'll see if the battery life makes up for any shortcomings...
 
It still amazes me how incredibly thick the Apple Watch is. It's enormous. For a company obsessed with thin it's a real oddity.
 
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I really like my Apple Watch Series 6. I was surprised by how much less I use my iPhone now that I have the watch. If they can add accurate non-invasive blood glucose monitoring (which I'm extremely skeptical they can) then the Apple Watch will probably match iPhone sales, if not exceed them. The O2 sensor on my Series 6 feels like a gimmick to be honest, it's rather inconsistent compared to an oximeter.

I would be prepared to have a small inert implant put in if it meant I had highly accurate readings of things like blood glucose, O2, temperature. My father has to have his blood tested regularly as he is on warfarin for a mechanical heart valve and if he could have an implant synced to his Apple Watch to test for this he would quite honestly pay tens of thousands for it.

I think implanted sensors make a lot of sense and really aren't that big a deal. My father has a mechanical heart valve made of carbon and titanium that clicks away, along with a pacemaker and you would never know it.
That’s interesting. The idea of an implant might sound insane to some people, but you bring up good points about your father’s heart valve and pacemaker.

I have a friend that is having DBS surgery for his Parkinson’s Disease soon. He’s just waiting for new tech to be approved — sounds promising.

My father had this surgery about 14 years ago, and they’ve made incredible advancements since then. Since there are already implants used, why not for the applications you mention? It is bound to happen at some point, and it will be interesting to see the role big tech plays.
 
I had 3 Apple watches so far but got rid of all if them after few months/max 1 year ,they become boring fast.
the design needs to improve its old now it’s too bulky and battery life needs to improve too.
also the pricing for non plastic bands is ridiculous.(specially link bracelet) it should be 4x lower.
 
I've been impressed with the longevity of my S0 even with the lack of software support for the last few years.
I have had good experiences getting a lot of use out of my Macs (just got my first iPhone and Apple Watch within the last year, can't comment on those yet).

I bought the original Mac mini in 2005 (PowerPC G4 with 512 MB of memory), and it lasted until 2016. Granted, I was doing basic stuff since it was the entry level model, but it did what I wanted for 11 years.
 
I don't normally do that with my watch but, was hoping for a big update so I could gift my SS series 6 to my brother, who is still using the SS series 3 I gifted him a few years sago.
Nice, good to see people looking after their family. 👍
 
I just hope they finally change the design. Love my watch for it's features, but hate the design. Really want thinner and most of all round!
Round is so mechanical watches. That is a waste of screen space that can have useful data.
 
I don't normally do that with my watch but, was hoping for a big update so I could gift my SS series 6 to my brother, who is still using the SS series 3 I gifted him a few years sago.
That' why I don't buy the exotic...ish materials as that pushes them into the "jewelry" category. To me it's just a tech device and tech comes and goes overnight.
 
That’s interesting. The idea of an implant might sound insane to some people, but you bring up good points about your father’s heart valve and pacemaker.

I have a friend that is having DBS surgery for his Parkinson’s Disease soon. He’s just waiting for new tech to be approved — sounds promising.

My father had this surgery about 14 years ago, and they’ve made incredible advancements since then. Since there are already implants used, why not for the applications you mention? It is bound to happen at some point, and it will be interesting to see the role big tech plays.
Exactly, I know some people dislike the idea of implants but I think so long as it’s totally optional as well as private I don’t see an issue. Accurate health vital information could save lives and potentially detect health issues early on. I think this is going to be a huge growth area of medicine alongside personalized medicine.

I’ve seen people implant NFC chips into their hands and while I think that’s a bit strange the idea that an implant could monitor my health seems like a logical step.
 
Just hope battery life is better my series 6 has hit worse
I have a 44mm non cellular series 6 and the battery life is incredible. I have worn this for two days without charging and usually finish a day of use (including listening to music at the gym) with more than 50% battery life remaining. I also have the always on screen enabled.
 
I have a 44mm non cellular series 6 and the battery life is incredible. I have worn this for two days without charging and usually finish a day of use (including listening to music at the gym) with more than 50% battery life remaining. I also have the always on screen enabled.

That’s awesome. I tend to wonder if some people are just getting much better quality batteries or what. I really don’t want the bigger size, and I’d hate to give up all my bands. If the 44mm is drastically better than the 40mm, I may start thinking about switching for my next one.

I struggle to get through a whole day if I leave raise to wake and AOD on. If I actually put it on when I wake up, it will almost definitely not make it the whole day. I sleep with and keep my series 4 on until about 11am and then switch to my series 5. Even doing that, I’m in the 30s for battery percentage at bed time. To me, I should not have to worry about power save mode coming on after ONE day of use. That’s just absurd. If the batteries can’t easily last a full day, they need to make the devices thicker and increase the battery size. Such annoyances are making me reconsider Garmin. It’s just so annoying having to baby something and make sure you don’t use it too many times during the day.
 
That’s awesome. I tend to wonder if some people are just getting much better quality batteries or what. I really don’t want the bigger size, and I’d hate to give up all my bands. If the 44mm is drastically better than the 40mm, I may start thinking about switching for my next one.

I struggle to get through a whole day if I leave raise to wake and AOD on. If I actually put it on when I wake up, it will almost definitely not make it the whole day. I sleep with and keep my series 4 on until about 11am and then switch to my series 5. Even doing that, I’m in the 30s for battery percentage at bed time. To me, I should not have to worry about power save mode coming on after ONE day of use. That’s just absurd. If the batteries can’t easily last a full day, they need to make the devices thicker and increase the battery size. Such annoyances are making me reconsider Garmin. It’s just so annoying having to baby something and make sure you don’t use it too many times during the day.
I wish I could help comment on battery life vs screen size. This is the first Apple Watch I've owned, but every time I hear a complaint about the series 6 battery life I'm a bit bemused as it's absolutely fantastic. It may well be you got one with a batch of dud batteries. I'm really not a light user either, I'm always using my Apple Watch and the one time I nearly ran out of battery was when I did not place it on the charger correctly and wore it for a second day without realizing. Even then when I went to bed it was still at 15%.

I have raise to wake and AOD both on. I've attached a screen shot of my battery. I put the watch on at 8:30 AM, it's 12:15 PM now and it's dropped 6%. You can see the battery life graph from yesterday probably only getting down to 60%/65% after a day of use. Yesterday I didn't go to the gym but usually I take it off around 10 PM with around 50%/55% remaining.
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I had to start wearing mine on the other wrist, I got a fatty patch near the wrist. Not sure if it is just the body is storing it elsewhere, or the watchband was screwing up. Anyway, today I figured out how to get the watch to unlock my phone without taking off my mask. I was at the hospital waiting for my wife to have a test and masks are required.

A thinner watch would be nice, if they had a band that fits us xlarge wrists. And I would hope that it would still be a good thing to own, capable of doing what the fatty watch does now plus some other tricks. Still going to hold out for the blood glucose providing I don't have to wear something extra.
 
I struggle to get through a whole day if I leave raise to wake and AOD on. If I actually put it on when I wake up, it will almost definitely not make it the whole day. I sleep with and keep my series 4 on until about 11am and then switch to my series 5. Even doing that, I’m in the 30s for battery percentage at bed time. To me, I should not have to worry about power save mode coming on after ONE day of use. That’s just absurd. If the batteries can’t easily last a full day, they need to make the devices thicker and increase the battery size. Such annoyances are making me reconsider Garmin. It’s just so annoying having to baby something and make sure you don’t use it too many times during the day.
I own an AW5 (Wi-Fi) and my watch will die in approximately 15 hours with the following:

1. AOD turned on
2. Light email usage throughout the day
3. 1.25 hours of workouts (using AirPods to listen to music downloaded to the watch for about an hour of that time)

I'm a bit conflicted because I want better battery life but I don't want the the watch thicker then it already is. I'd rather have them improve the cellular modem on the device (even at the cost of battery life) so I can use that functionality with confidence. I'd be willing to charge my watch twice a day for better functionality. It will be interesting to see what the marketplace dictates Apple do.
 
It certainly is. Btw there is another small limitation: the s0 didn’t get past watchOS 4, so if you use apple pay you don’t have transaction history for purchases made using apple pay with the watch (a feature first included in watchOS 5). You also don’t get access, at least not on the watch, to other apple pay features released with watchOS 5 or later such as apple cash or the apple card.

On the bright side of things, the s0 is fully compatible with the new solo loop and braided solo loop bands despite Apple’s claims to the contrary.
I can’t use Apple Pay with my s0 and iPhone 12, it’s not compatible anymore.
 
I’m proud to say I have yet to buy a Apple Watch. I think I will wait until at least the 10 comes out
 
How about the Tudor Black Bay? It makes the Apple Watch look thin in comparison.

The black bay is huge, similar thickness to the Omega Planet Ocean. I assume that a lot of people that think the Apple Watch is too thick aren’t use to wearing watches. I’ve worn watches my whole life. The Apple Watch is very unobtrusive because of the rounded sides. Even aside from that, it’s no thicker than all the dive watches I’ve worn over the years. I don’t expect it to ever be the thickness of a dress watch and, honestly, I don’t want it to be. To each their own on such subjective issues, but I like my watch to have some heft. That’s part of why I prefer the steel Apple Watch (along with sapphire).
 
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