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Do people realize Apple doesn’t have to launch Watch 7 in September?

Apple split up the launch of iPhone and Watch last year.
... yeah, but the Series 6 dropped a month BEFORE the iPhone 12. Not sure this is the hill you want to die on here, JP.
 
I will be waiting for the 8. Hopefully any issues with the new design are worked out by then.
 
My God. If this is true, this is a big deal (blood pressure I mean).

Huge. I won't believe this until I see it. Seems early for this, and this is the first time I've heard it mentioned after Apple supposedly acquired the company which designed the sensor.

But it's mind boggling. If you could monitor heart rate, pressure, blood oxygen, and even sugar, on a pleasant, very fashionable wearable, that is a powerful computer with communication and AI capabilities.

Just hope it can tell time.

UPDATE: Not true. :D
 
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... yeah, but the Series 6 dropped a month BEFORE the iPhone 12. Not sure this is the hill you want to die on here, JP.
S6 is from the same generation as S4. But S7 is a major form factor change.

Similar to iPhone 11, of course it launched on time in September 2019. But look what happened with iPhone X and iPhone 12.
 
This happens every. flipping. year. It's like clockwork.


Please can you link the articles showing the delays for S6, S5, S4. I can't find them.


EDIT: Found this for S6:

Can't find anything for S5 or S4.
 
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... yeah, but the Series 6 dropped a month BEFORE the iPhone 12. Not sure this is the hill you want to die on here, JP.
Wow, this is high stakes! Point out how little we actually know about Apple’s plans and the war metaphors come out?!
 
Another vote for this is wrong.

you don’t get to today, 2 weeks before a launch without having moved to volume manufacturing.

i also don’t see anything in the rumours that would match this being difficult to produce - it’s the same as previous watches just in a slightly revised case.
What about the original iPhone announcement? Apple didn't have a single fully-functioning prototype and made the announcement anyway, knowing that there was still much to do on the engineering front, much less manufacturing the not-yet-finalized design.

We've also seen multiple product introductions from Apple where very little product was available at first. This is almost certainly because volume manufacturing wasn't yet underway at the time of announcement.
 
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Complex design? Flat edges that they’ve been doing since the iPhone 5? Clearly I’m missing something.
 
Not ready to upgrade yet, my Gold SS AW5 is all I need for now and it is a thing of beauty.
I use the iHealth cuff for reading my blood pressure, I believe it reads high most of the time compared to the ones the doctors use, but it is still a good indicator. I hope Apple has found a way to do this reliably.
 
I highly doubt about BP capability. BP measurement requires an inflating cuff/band of some sort for one thing and no way the internal battery of the watch will be able to cope with that. The only alternative is a specialized inflatable band with its own battery and even then, it is not all that easy or practical.

Blood sugar measurement on the other hand is more likely to be implemented and would be more useful imo.
 
I highly doubt about BP capability. BP measurement requires an inflating cuff/band of some sort for one thing and no way the internal battery of the watch will be able to cope with that. The only alternative is a specialized inflatable band with its own battery and even then, it is not all that easy or practical.

Blood sugar measurement on the other hand is more likely to be implemented and would be more useful imo.
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Blood pressure? I thought we weren’t getting that for at least another year. Idk if it’s really coming with the Series 7 or not but I am majorly looking forward to that.
 
I highly doubt about BP capability. BP measurement requires an inflating cuff/band of some sort for one thing and no way the internal battery of the watch will be able to cope with that. The only alternative is a specialized inflatable band with its own battery and even then, it is not all that easy or practical.

Blood sugar measurement on the other hand is more likely to be implemented and would be more useful imo.

The new Samsung Galaxy Watch already measures BP. On the other hand, there isn't any consumer ready blood sugar meter that doesn't involve sticking a needle under the skin.
 
blood pressure, really? that's probably the one thing that could make me upgrade. i'd love to know how an aw is meant to get an accurate reading without a dedicated band.
Sounds like some sort of infrared sensor from this article back in May: https://www.macrumors.com/2021/05/03/apple-watch-blood-pressure-glucose-alcohol/

As someone who just bought a used Series 3 Cellular to motivate me into exercising more to get my recently developed high blood pressure under control, I said an onboard blood pressure monitoring feature would be what gets me to upgrade. I just didn't think it could be hitting their Series 7. I thought it'd be at least another year before the feature showed up. Also, how the sensor is actually implemented would be a consideration too.
 
Interesting to note what the Bloomberg article (from the post update) doesn't say – namely anything about the blood pressure feature.

This could be because it's not present… but it seems more likely that would be addressed at this stage by a yay/nay nod from Apple to Wu & Gurman, to quash any over-galloping rumours.
 
Sounds like some sort of infrared sensor from this article back in May: https://www.macrumors.com/2021/05/03/apple-watch-blood-pressure-glucose-alcohol/

As someone who just bought a used Series 3 Cellular to motivate me into exercising more to get my recently developed high blood pressure under control, I said an onboard blood pressure monitoring feature would be what gets me to upgrade. I just didn't think it could be hitting their Series 7. I thought it'd be at least another year before the feature showed up. Also, how the sensor is actually implemented would be a consideration too.
could be, but it doesn't really explain much.. i'm in the same boat, minus the high bp(usually). i just got my first aw(6) this past december, and am loving every minute. really wasn't expecting to be upgrading this year, especially since my wife insisted it would be her bday present — don't think she'd appreciate this.

i'm seriously considering getting this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SJV1HN...colid=1GW41DJMMQSC&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

but if aw gets the bp monitor this year... what to do?.. :)
 
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S6 is from the same generation as S4. But S7 is a major form factor change.

Similar to iPhone 11, of course it launched on time in September 2019. But look what happened with iPhone X and iPhone 12.
Major form factor change? They squared up the case and enlarged the screen by a MM. That's it. The only major change is *rumored* to be the health sensor, which may or may not include a blood pressure sensor. That is a part though, whos design would have been finalized months ago and should have been in production well before now.
As for actual assembly, again that process has not changed: Machine the outer casing (now square externally but internally mostly identical other than being physically larger by less than 3%) attach buttons and crown mechanism, drop in sensor, then battery and attached SoC then screen, apply heat and pressure to seal the entire assembly. Test for functionality and then box and pack.
If they are having QA issues then that is most likely on new assemblers, not a design change, something that wouldn't have come up until actual assembly began in earnest. Think of it like a new hire: they might have aced the interview but it isn't until they're on the job that problems become clear.
 
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Please can you link the articles showing the delays for S6, S5, S4. I can't find them.


EDIT: Found this for S6:

Can't find anything for S5 or S4.
Great find! Wow, I wonder why reports like this come out every year. That's wild!
 
Well it could be really serious QA issues. A friend who is Ford tech said the last batch of computers they were waiting for to complete 2021 F150's 1 out of 8 were DOA last week. YIKES!!!!!
 
Major form factor change? They squared up the case and enlarged the screen by a MM. That's it. The only major change is *rumored* to be the health sensor, which may or may not include a blood pressure sensor. That is a part though, whos design would have been finalized months ago and should have been in production well before now.
As for actual assembly, again that process has not changed: Machine the outer casing (now square externally but internally mostly identical other than being physically larger by less than 3%) attach buttons and crown mechanism, drop in sensor, then battery and attached SoC then screen, apply heat and pressure to seal the entire assembly. Test for functionality and then box and pack.
If they are having QA issues then that is most likely on new assemblers, not a design change, something that wouldn't have come up until actual assembly began in earnest. Think of it like a new hire: they might have aced the interview but it isn't until they're on the job that problems become clear.
You missed the most difficult engineering work - radio and antenna design. You can't simply move the guts to a new form factor using a new Qualcomm baseband without some major work.
 
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Integrating the James Bond-like laser has been a challenge.
James Bond: Do you expect me to wear this new Apple Watch 7 with a laser beam?
Blofeld: No Mr Bond, I will wear it and I expect you to die!

[Edit: corrected typo (said loser, meant laser)]
 
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