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This watch needs to be a phone on its own and everything.

Horrible idea, IMHO. The Apple community has been making fun of Google Glass users as "Gl*******s" in part because of how dorky they look with a camera strapped to their face. What's the difference between that and the utter dorkery of talking to your wrist? :rolleyes:
 
I must say those are some pretty sharp eyes to take those photos. I myself don't even make it a point to pay attention to what watch the people around me are using. :eek:

That said, I think the first photo looks pretty sweet. Torn a bit. Wait a year for gen 2 (while missing out on the user experience of the 1st gen?) Guess my Pebble watch gets to live another year or so. :p
 
WTF?

All wrists are flat

Round wrists are only in cartoons

Not at all. You must not be on the watch forums then. Flat and round wrists are talked about a lot of the time and the same watch looks and sits very different on the two kinds of wrists.
 
Not at all. You must not be on the watch forums then. Flat and round wrists are talked about a lot of the time and the same watch looks and sits very different on the two kinds of wrists.

No.

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All forearms (where watches sit) are oval-shappen in the section.

Unless you're some kind of mutant or you're so fat you can't even wear a watch.
 
Sure not every one needs a watch like this, and the watch might not be useful for everybody. But is it really that expensive for what it can do? I certainly don't see many people making negative comments toward Garmin's $400+ watch.

You should go on the Garmin forums - I have no idea how long it takes my fenix to charge as the last f/w update borked the battery indicator when charging so it goes to 100% in about 2 minutes, but the battery isn't charged.

I'm currently charging it every night as it's on BT, and it is a pain. I'm watching the vivoactive and the apple watch with interest. I'd say neither is pretty (but both are an improvement on my massive fenix), and both may have advantages over each other, so I'm in the waiting game. I can't see either being readily available until at least May/June - the VA's release date seems to vary where you read it...

I have worn a watch since I was 7. I personally can't live without one - but as I've said many times, my phone is in my handbag. Keep reiterating that about us women as I know I'm in the minority! I also don't view wearing a smart watch as a non-professional thing; we had a representative of GDS (the government digital service) over for a meeting a few weeks ago & that was the first person I'd ever seen wearing a pebble. My director's watch is his Garmin forerunner.
 
I wonder if Apple will time the Apple Watch launch event to ensure it steals the thunder from the Galaxy S6 launch.

Is it likely to make any difference? It's a different set of consumers.

I can't see all the Android sites. going mad over the Apple Watch and ignoring an S6 release.
 
No.

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All forearms (where watches sit) are oval-shappen in the section.

Unless you're some kind of mutant or you're so fat you can't even wear a watch.

No? No what? No that you haven't looked at what watch enthusiasts mean when they talk about flat or round wrists?

Since you don't seem to know what I'm talking about - a "flat" wrist has a larger, more flat area where the watch head sits on when wearing a watch. The lugs rarely overhang the wrist allowing someone with a 7" wrist able to wear large watches (42mm+) without looking way too big.

On the other hand, a "round" wrist has a rounded surface where the watch sits. Generally the side and top of the wrist are proportionate where a flat has more top and less side of the wrist. Someone with a 7" rounded wrist wearing a 42mm+ watch makes the watch look a lot bigger. The lugs generally overhang the wrist.
 
Is it likely to make any difference? It's a different set of consumers.

I can't see all the Android sites. going mad over the Apple Watch and ignoring an S6 release.

Android fans, Samsung fans and Apple fans aside, the general public's perception will be impacted.

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But even then the level of convenience is only slightly better than a phone. The problem is that the phone can do all of that. So is another device that will cost at minimum $350 worth that small bump in convenience?

I thought this too.

But it must have occurred to them at Apple was well, and they wouldn't want the first post-Jobs product to flop, so they must be sure it will be successful.
 
No.


All forearms (where watches sit) are oval-shappen in the section.

Unless you're some kind of mutant or you're so fat you can't even wear a watch.

I'm a mutant then :( I have very small wrists where those bones stick out (wish the rest of me was as skinny lol), and many watches rub on that bone. For example, my fenix's charging pins rub on it after about 10 hours...
 
No? No what? No that you haven't looked at what watch enthusiasts mean when they talk about flat or round wrists?

Since you don't seem to know what I'm talking about - a "flat" wrist has a larger, more flat area where the watch head sits on when wearing a watch. The lugs rarely overhang the wrist allowing someone with a 7" wrist able to wear large watches (42mm+) without looking way too big.

On the other hand, a "round" wrist has a rounded surface where the watch sits. Generally the side and top of the wrist are proportionate where a flat has more top and less side of the wrist. Someone with a 7" rounded wrist wearing a 42mm+ watch makes the watch look a lot bigger. The lugs generally overhang the wrist.

No, no no.

I'm not going down to enthusiasts, since science shows that everybody has oval forearms.

Show me a "round" forearm photo.

There's no such thing. Those two bones will never make a circle and that's it.

For me, you already had enough, you can try to convince the next guy.
 
Maybe I'm alone here but I haven't worn a watch since I was a child, and I don't plan on spending $350 for a new watch when my iPhone can tell the time, check my mail and do pretty much anything I need when I'm mobile.

Ok, and I will try not to give you the side-eye when you start a new thread in a few months talking about how you broke down and got one.
 
No, no no.

I'm not going down to enthusiasts, since science shows that everybody has oval forearms.

Show me a "round" forearm photo.

There's no such thing. Those two bones will never make a circle and that's it.

For me, you already had enough, you can try to convince the next guy.

Skeletal science yes shows a flattened oval patch over the wrist, but I work diagnosing carpal tunnel syndrome so see countless wrists every day - tonyy is correct, sub-cutaneous tissues can make the dorsal aspect of the wrist rounder or flatter depending on tissue density, adipose tissues etc. Therefore
there are rounder wrists! Please research this prior to jumping to a 'science says!' answer.
 
I have worn a watch every day since I was 13. I regularly buy a new watch every couple of years that cost more than $350. Just because you don't, doesn't mean that nobody does.

I understand that there are people that don't buy watches. I also know that there are quite a few people that still do. If we didn't, then the watch makers would be out of business by now.
edit: it was a stupid thing to say
 
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It just seems like such a pointless thing to spend money on.


LOL!!! We all have hobbies / interests that people view as pointless; yet they still keep people employed and their families fed. Just think if all we spent money on was the necessities of life. Food, shelter and so on. How many economies would crash.

I've worn a watch 24/7/365 sine I could tell time. I've gone from functional, cheap to high dollar, gadgety and back a few times. I view watches as functional jewelry.

I think and hope the watch sells well and forces people to push the design and engineering envelope in different directions.

I'd love to see a waterproof, solar / mechanical watch that can go as long as there is sun and movement. It's going to take some serious battery and energy consumption developments, but that's all good for everyone.
 
I agree. Personally, I think it'll be the next iPod Nano or Apple TV. It'll really suit some people and a lot of tech enthusiasts will buy them, but for most people, there'll be minor fascination for a period and then it'll wear off completely.

I mean this in the least rude and condescending way possible, but I think in a few years, comments like this will be seen as laughably short-sighted. People dismissed smartphones not too long ago, saying, "who wants email on such a small screen, the iPhone doesn't even have a keyboard". They couldn't imagine the possibilities or rapid rate of improvement.

Things that are potentially more convenient, less distracting, or more fun because of Apple Watch: telling time(!), Notifications, silent alarms, walking directions via wrist tapping, fitness tracking, Apple Pay, PassBook (eg movie tickets), remote control for iTunes and Apple TV, using the iPhone's high quality camera via Watch viewfinder.

Not to mention it's endlessly customizable as a fashion piece. The battery life will slowly creep up, prices will drop, and its capabilities will expand. Possibilities in health and home automation are myriad. Could we imagine everything the iPhone turned out to be in 2006?
 
Maybe I'm alone here but I haven't worn a watch since I was a child, and I don't plan on spending $350 for a new watch when my iPhone can tell the time, check my mail and do pretty much anything I need when I'm mobile.

Alright, I admit that this is a bit of a 'non-article' but I am still amazed by the need people have to comment about how they won't be buying an Apple Watch. Do you log onto an Audi forum when they announce a new car to let the world know that you "haven't driven a car in years and you're not about to start now"? I suspect not.

As for the price, it's all relative. I have always worn a watch (and find the idea of getting my phone out every time I want to check the time completely alien). If you only ever wear a £30 Casio watch, £/$350 is a big stretch, I admit. If you never wear a watch, it's a huge stretch! I have worked hard to buy a beautiful Omega watch and a Tag Heuer watch. They both look fantastic (albeit, they aren't smart). However, I paid nearly £300 to have my Omega serviced last year so £/$350 for a watch that does what my current watches do, is always 100% accurate and adds 'smart' functionality to my wrist seems like a bargain. I take my watch off at night anyway so whether it is sat by my bed doing nothing or sat my bad charging won't affect me, or most watch wearers, one jot, I suspect. It's only a problem if the battery doesn't make it to bedtime - and that is my only worry.

Either way, I can't wait to get one as, from actual first hand experience (rare in this discussion), I really rate the smart watch concept! I tried a Pebble - admittedly, I only lasted 3 months because, while it really was simply brilliant having the functionality, it looked like a childrens toy. I replaced it with the SLIGHTLY less toy looking Gear 2 Neo and it had even better, genuinely useful functionalities. However, I didn't enjoy my brief stint with Android (the grass was not greener) and sold the Gear, along with my S4, when the 6+ and Apple Watch were announced. I just hope the Apple watch looks good in the metal, so to speak, or else, like the Pebble and the Gear, it will end its time with me on eBay. Incidentally, the Gear 2 used to last 3 days on a charge so it can be done, Apple!

Roll on the rumoured Tag Heuer Smart Watch - THAT will be an interesting development in the smart watch arena: a watch maker joining the party! One thing is for sure: as consumers, we can only benefit.
 
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I mean this in the least rude and condescending way possible, but I think in a few years, comments like this will be seen as laughably short-sighted. People dismissed smartphones not too long ago, saying, "who wants email on such a small screen, the iPhone doesn't even have a keyboard". They couldn't imagine the possibilities or rapid rate of improvement.

Things that are potentially more convenient, less distracting, or more fun because of Apple Watch: telling time(!), Notifications, silent alarms, walking directions via wrist tapping, fitness tracking, Apple Pay, PassBook (eg movie tickets), remote control for iTunes and Apple TV, using the iPhone's high quality camera via Watch viewfinder.

Not to mention it's endlessly customizable as a fashion piece. The battery life will slowly creep up, prices will drop, and its capabilities will expand. Possibilities in health and home automation are myriad. Could we imagine everything the iPhone turned out to be in 2006?

How very rude and condescending!

I guess we'll both have to wait and see.
 
Skeletal science yes shows a flattened oval patch over the wrist, but I work diagnosing carpal tunnel syndrome so see countless wrists every day - tonyy is correct, sub-cutaneous tissues can make the dorsal aspect of the wrist rounder or flatter depending on tissue density, adipose tissues etc. Therefore
there are rounder wrists! Please research this prior to jumping to a 'science says!' answer.

Yes, but you don't wear watches on your wrist.

You wear them NEXT to your wrist.

But thanks for the completely unrelated article on "I'm a doctor".
 
The thing I love about the look of these is that they look like what the future looked like 50 years ago. And I mean that in a very good way. In the way that timeless sci-fi movies sometimes have really nice industrial design. It looks like it popped right off the screen of a 1960's sci-fi flick. It's modern & timeless. Not that I'd expect anything less of Ive & crew.
 
Skeletal science yes shows a flattened oval patch over the wrist, but I work diagnosing carpal tunnel syndrome so see countless wrists every day - tonyy is correct, sub-cutaneous tissues can make the dorsal aspect of the wrist rounder or flatter depending on tissue density, adipose tissues etc. Therefore
there are rounder wrists! Please research this prior to jumping to a 'science says!' answer.

According to his logic - we all have the same amount of bones and skeletal system so we should all look the same right??

Same height, width, length, etc.

I asked him if he looked at different wrists with watches. It's clear theres not one size fits all. He declined :shrugs:

His condescending attitude makes it not worth the hassle of trying to debate.
 
You should go on the Garmin forums - I have no idea how long it takes my fenix to charge as the last f/w update borked the battery indicator when charging so it goes to 100% in about 2 minutes, but the battery isn't charged.

I'm currently charging it every night as it's on BT, and it is a pain. I'm watching the vivoactive and the apple watch with interest. I'd say neither is pretty (but both are an improvement on my massive fenix), and both may have advantages over each other, so I'm in the waiting game. I can't see either being readily available until at least May/June - the VA's release date seems to vary where you read it...

I have worn a watch since I was 7. I personally can't live without one - but as I've said many times, my phone is in my handbag. Keep reiterating that about us women as I know I'm in the minority! I also don't view wearing a smart watch as a non-professional thing; we had a representative of GDS (the government digital service) over for a meeting a few weeks ago & that was the first person I'd ever seen wearing a pebble. My director's watch is his Garmin forerunner.

I see your point, but I don't mean it as in negative points toward the build quality and functionality. I was merely stating that giving what the company claim their watches can do, they have been selling it at $400+ and people seems to be okay with it.

I recently settled on the FR15. I was thinking to get a higher level Garmin watch but at $400 I might actually wait for the iWatch. Although it's rather disappointing that the iWatch won't include GPS.
 
Agree.
I think I'll skip the first version this time.
Which is unlike me as I bought a first gen iPhone and 1st gen iPad. But after owning a Galaxy Gear Fit before making my return back to the iPhone, I'm going to have to pass.
 
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