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What a piece of crap.

I have a Garmin 920XT which is a fitness watch with GPS which I use with GPS about 4 times a week and then also for around 4 swims a week where it is recording (but no GPS). I also wear the watch all day and night where it tracks my steps and sleep and functions as a watch as well as a bluetooth connection to my phone with smart notifications.

Charge time about 1:30 once a week.

This of course is the crap 1st gen apple product so they can finally make the product they should have originally by 3rd gen.
And do you think your Garmin is comparable to an Apple Watch???
 
If Apple said the battery life is one week, some people would still complain...

Some people are just haters and moaners...

There is a different between haters and making a better judgement on anything..

I agree, people will just hate because they can, but i also hope battery will be extended to, 'the user does not *have" to take it off everyday just to charge'

Simply because its a hassle..... I would wear it in watch in bed, but this basically means I cannot do that....something i had no problem doing with a non-smart watch...

2 days would be acceptable minimum. or find some way to charge while being worn, and it would have no be wireless, no physical cord or any direct contact with any dock..

That's probably asking for allot, but if Apple can't find a solution to this, and firce people to take it off, when its designed to be worn in a short period (aka more than 1 day), then i don't care what people say,, the Apple watch is clearly not ready yet...

Allot of people will like it, but it won't be for the battery.
 
Apple watch is a great idea in theory. Why in he world would you want a watch you have to charge and its battery life is not that great? Its basically a redesigned digital watch. Plus it is only fully useful if connected to an iPhone etc as it does very little on its own. Prefer my Swiss Made Tissot T-Race Automatic with stainless steel, carbon fibre and sapphire crystal display - no battery required - no electronics - fully mechanical, and even has a see-through back to see the mechanics working. Costs around $2,000 but better value than the Apple Watch and its a true watch.
 
Apple watch is a great idea in theory. Why in he world would you want a watch you have to charge and its battery life is not that great? Its basically a redesigned digital watch. Plus it is only fully useful if connected to an iPhone etc as it does very little on its own. Prefer my Swiss Made Tissot T-Race Automatic with stainless steel, carbon fibre and sapphire crystal display - no battery required - no electronics - fully mechanical, and even has a see-through back to see the mechanics working. Costs around $2,000 but better value than the Apple Watch and its a true watch.

Same comment as everyone else who won't be buying one...
- Complaint about battery time ... Check
- Saying it doesn't transcend current technology, or the competition... Check
(same complaint as Ipod, Ipad and Iphone pre-launch)
- Falsehood about what it can do without the phone .... Check
- It's not super duper like a mechanical watch... Duh, it's a computer
- It's not a good value... Despite 80% markup on their own watch... Check

Well, that's fine, the actual demo for the watch is not you.

As for your points.

- Purported to last as long as the original Iphone under load... That must mean the Iphone failed...
- Many people, including myself don't give a crap about mechanical watches, they could all die and I wouldn't bat an eyelash.
- The phone has many independent functions, check Apple'S web site or wait and listen to the webcast monday (and will have even more once native apps come to it by the end of year).
- Your out to lunch about your watches "value" to the general public; it has a significant value to a quite narrow clique of people. Everyone else probably thinks you got ripped off.

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Right, "news" from 6 months ago. There are probably 1000 web sites with positives after the launch and more recent news.. Including Apple's web site which you seem to have avoided. Check them out.
 
Since I actually am an Android and Windows user, and I do post on several dedicated forums, I can confirm you that's not even close to what you can see here.
Here there are people fighting an holy war against Apple on basically every thread. And they sometimes put a couple of Apple's devices in their signature to pretend to be "objective" Apple's users. Lol.

Hmmmm , Apple users also put in a few android and windows devices to pretend they are objective.

MR is a very popular website, you will have a larger number of users.

apple users are far more passionate, even the ones that only love apple will complain about direction and new products post jobs

Some core Apple users are unhappy that it's no longer a computers company and its all about itoys

Some Apple users are unhappy about the amount of bugs in modern OS

Some Apple users are unhappy that modern apple gear is all soldered

Some Apple users are unhappy that apple takes forever to refresh thier gear, and some are backwards moves like Mac mini

Etc etc etc

And you believe they problem is users who have no Apple devices coming on MR and causing trouble??? There is a lot of Apple fans that have issues with were Apple is at the moment! It's easy to blame non fans eh.....

There are objective Apple users here, though they are branded as non Apple fans and viewed as coming here to cause trouble. You cannot be objective if you believe that only Apple fans should post on here.

So which android device do you like? Can't be a samsung one, from you posts that I read on here, though I could be wrong, as we only discussed a few in our chats.
 

I have to disagree with the author's premise. The smart watch doesn't have to "replace our need for a cell phone". Frankly I would never WANT to replace my cell phone with something that has a far smaller screen. I see the smartwatch almost like the television remote or computer mouse. Technically not necessary... at least at the time they were first introduced... but adding much appreciated convenience.

I also see a future were the phone becomes a hub for a whole host of wearable technologies.
 
Yeah, the interesting thing with my mini drone is that it doesn't charge any faster when the USB cable is plugged into my iPad wall charger rather than just a computer USB port. I'm guessing it's limited somehow inside the device but I don't know a ton about it...

That is very likely. On USB devices, the actual charger is usually inside the device and the USB connection only provides 5V. Charging LiPo batteries is quite complicated and dangerous compared to other battery tech. You don't want to charge it faster than it is rated for, you have to back off the charging power gradually as the battery approaches it's full voltage, you must never over-charge it (very hot fire, very toxic fumes, extinguishers to nothing).

Here's what happens when you charge a Lithium Polymer batter too much or too fast: http://youtu.be/zQheOtdCTjs

Now that I think about it, I retract my earlier comment wanting to charge the watch while it's on my wrist while I sleep. :confused:
 
Same comment as everyone else who won't be buying one...
- Complaint about battery time ... Check
- Saying it doesn't transcend current technology, or the competition... Check
(same complaint as Ipod, Ipad and Iphone pre-launch)
- Falsehood about what it can do without the phone .... Check
- It's not super duper like a mechanical watch... Duh, it's a computer
- It's not a good value... Despite 80% markup on their own watch... Check

Well, that's fine, the actual demo for the watch is not you.

As for your points.

- Purported to last as long as the original Iphone under load... That must mean the Iphone failed...
- Many people, including myself don't give a crap about mechanical watches, they could all die and I wouldn't bat an eyelash.
- The phone has many independent functions, check Apple'S web site or wait and listen to the webcast monday (and will have even more once native apps come to it by the end of year).
- Your out to lunch about your watches "value" to the general public; it has a significant value to a quite narrow clique of people. Everyone else probably thinks you got ripped off.

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Right, "news" from 6 months ago. There are probably 1000 web sites with positives after the launch and more recent news.. Including Apple's web site which you seem to have avoided. Check them out.

Typical response - obviously the marketing has worked well on you - not me. Just like I would not buy an electric vehicle over a v8 car which is non electric. The Apple Watch has more to go wrong, have to charge it, and does not run long without a charge - depending on use.

I don't buy a device to buy Apps, I buy a device to use it as it was designed. Useless on the small screen. The screen is too small - even on the larger version as well. Your own finger / thumb takes most of the screen. The size variance between both is too small as well.

Mechanical watches have been and always will be more expensive, especially from Switzerland as it takes a lot more engineering, manufacturing, cost, assembly with mechanical watches as its all manual. I don't want / need a watch for a purpose which almost duplicates and iPhone.
 
Molly Wood of Cnet had a similar opinion of the iPad back in January 2010...

"I added it up and … like 800 people are going to buy the iPad. . . . It’s not that the iPad is a failure. It’s just a product ahead of its time. No one should actually buy this iPad — between its inevitable first-generation bugs, fulfillment problems, and buyer’s remorse over added features and price drops, it’s heartbreak waiting to happen."

...and yet it's still surprising to me, how willing some people are to display their dearth of imagination.

Hey - nice try at bullying my sympathies by attacking my imagination.

The iPad WAS a step forward - the iWatch is still an underpowered, over priced baby monitor for an iPhone - masquerading as watchmaking and aided by an entourage of expensive fashion centric marketing.

The iPad was the best tablet - the iWatch is not the best watch.

but also - it's not the best 'smart watch' because it's way to expensive for an apple product which doesn't change the rules - the apple smart watch still has the same power problems as smart watches - have.

...solve this problem and then we might be experiencing Apple doing what Apple does best.
 
Do you realize that a G-Shock watch has just a fraction of a complex smartwatch energy consumption?

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Oh dear.... You really think they hadn't the ability to do that?
It was a deliberate choice, on an edge only device, to not put a front facing camera for video calls. It was 2007 dude.....
Who do you think you are to call "silly engineers" the people that basically changed forever the way a smartphone was intended?

It wasn't until iOS 6 that you could do FaceTime over Cellular. It was restricted to WiFi for the first two years of existence. So the device being Edge only is a red herring, not saying there are other more legit reasons to not have done it.
 
Hmmmm , Apple users also put in a few android and windows devices to pretend they are objective.

MR is a very popular website, you will have a larger number of users.

apple users are far more passionate, even the ones that only love apple will complain about direction and new products post jobs

Some core Apple users are unhappy that it's no longer a computers company and its all about itoys

Some Apple users are unhappy about the amount of bugs in modern OS

Some Apple users are unhappy that modern apple gear is all soldered

Some Apple users are unhappy that apple takes forever to refresh thier gear, and some are backwards moves like Mac mini

Etc etc etc

And you believe they problem is users who have no Apple devices coming on MR and causing trouble??? There is a lot of Apple fans that have issues with were Apple is at the moment! It's easy to blame non fans eh.....

There are objective Apple users here, though they are branded as non Apple fans and viewed as coming here to cause trouble. You cannot be objective if you believe that only Apple fans should post on here.

So which android device do you like? Can't be a samsung one, from you posts that I read on here, though I could be wrong, as we only discussed a few in our chats.
You know perfectly well that's not the reason many Android users are posting here, as you know there are plenty of fake Apple users complaining here...

Clearly there are also Apple users not satisfied complaining about bugs and choices.

I don't know what this has to do with the thread, but the only Android device I like is the Nexus, at least until Nexus 5 and 7 (2013).
Nexus 6 is just too big and pricey for a Nexus.
Samsung ? Not even for free.....
LG ? No thanks....
I like some HTC and Sony devices also, especially the Z3 line.
Regarding your first statement, now it's too late, but tomorrow I will post pictures of my Android and Windows devices, just in case...
 
You know perfectly well that's not the reason many Android users are posting here, as you know there are plenty of fake Apple users complaining here...

Clearly there are also Apple users not satisfied complaining about bugs and choices.

I don't know what this has to do with the thread, but the only Android device I like is the Nexus, at least until Nexus 5 and 7 (2013).
Nexus 6 is just too big and pricey for a Nexus.
Samsung ? Not even for free.....
LG ? No thanks....
I like some HTC and Sony devices also, especially the Z3 line.
Regarding your first statement, now it's too late, but tomorrow I will post pictures of my Android and Windows devices, just in case...

No need at all mate, I trust you. Just saying that we are part of a community that has a wide range of users and some of the most vocal and bitter ones are actually apple fans. The trolls that come here are easy to indentify and ignore.

Apple fans have the highest expectations of users I have met.

All good mate, let's keep it objective and enjoy the community here! I biggest fault is that I become cynical .....
 
For all the people complaining about the watch being worthless when the battery loses charge, apparently Apple are saying the battery is replaceable. No elaboration on that yet.
 
Living in the center of the watch industry's biggest sales, I see Rolexes every day, and I work with people who don't have to think twice before buying a decent Rolex or even Piaget. The impression that multi-millionaires mindlessly throw money away reflects a stereotype of the modern wealthy; it just isn't the case for that many of the richest class to be so frivolous. (so-called "Rich kids of Instagram" is a very small population of the wealthy few) On the other hand, while they can afford it, purchases of fine jewelry represents investments in something that is essentially timeless (excuse the pun). Apple has made a bold move fusing digital tech and jewelry and it's sooner than too soon to even consider the potential. However, the common millionaires who regularly make purchases as investments, the ones who really collect watches, will likely pass on Apple Watch because it's not classical. I personally think people don't realize how much little use an Apple Watch would be to the wealthiest among us. When they make a tech fashion statement it's not with an iPhone, it's with a Vertu dumb phone. The richest among us have people to take care of their email, and they have personal trainers monitoring their health, and they can afford to hire a specialist for just about everything.

Actually they all have one of everything. You don't have to be rich to own several phones with contracts simultaneously. I suppose Apple only cares if the rich and influential use Apple devices most but then again, does Apple even care once they sell a $10k watch to a customer? They just made more profit than if they sold 20 iPhones and they don't have to even deal with supporting 20 customers.
 
man, i really want to get one...but the only a day battery life is concerning. prob going to wait for real world users to report back on how battery actually plays out.

Takes such long time to charge it and it'll only last one day? That's a big problem.
 
Do me a favor: Shake your wrist for 10 seconds and then tell me what you think of that idea.
EDIT: Forget what I previously typed if you read it. I defended a poster who has turned out to be somebody who looks for reactions so I retract my support. They are now moaning about this in the Feedback section and I naively agreed with what they were saying until it was thrown back in my face. Ho hum.
 
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EDIT: Forget what I previously typed if you read it. I defended a poster who has turned out to be somebody who looks for reactions so I retract my support. They are now moaning about this in the Feedback section and I naively agreed with what they were saying until it was thrown back in my face. Ho hum.

What are you referring to? :confused:
 
What are you referring to? :confused:

I typed a post here agreeing with a poster who was also complaining in the feedback section about the responses they have got here. Unfortunately my support was greeted very negatively so I have withdrawn my original post by editing it out. Just another strange episode on the Internet lol, apologies. :)
 
You got the iPhone charging time wrong, 45min will do the trick on an iPhone.

Thanks for that analysis. And if you forget to charge your phone? Same situation. Wow, is there nothing that you people won't complain about.

How 'bout this. The Sun will burn out in a few billion years. That's outrageous, but not as outrageous as most of the posts here.
 
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