Because nobody is buying them and they have a huge surplus.
One of my best friends from high school is working as a manager at Apple. I haven't seem him in 10 years and he came to town two weeks ago. He told me a few things he could and he suggested because he can not tell them and he told some because it was me. But basically the Apple Watch is a failure and they all know that. Steve used to have control over everything, now everybody wants to have control and be the "creative mind". Still, Apple still manufacturing a product nobody is buying and there is a surplus and Apple will not say is a failure. I haven't seen the first one still, not even in my gym.
I'm not sure what you mean by you guys change your mouth so fast. I assume that "people like me" say one thing and then another later? I understand you may not be specifically targeting me but you did reply to my comment. So all I can do is respond to that as if we had a previous conversation where I did say it could only be sold in high end boutiques. Well, I never said that or ever commented on them doing that. This is the first time I have offered my opinion on this matter honestly. I don't really care where they sell it. They can sell it from high end boutiques to walmart for all it matters to me. I enjoy the product, not the marketing surrounding it or the stores they choose to sell it in.Oh my god! You guys change your mouth so fast!
Remember when Apple Watch was sold first, only high end boutique stores were allowed to sell. Why didn't Apple allow Target and Best Buy to sell from the beginning?
May be they still are in denial!Or Apple is seeing better than expected demand for the Apple Watch Sport and has decided to expand the number of sales outlets?
If sales were "abysmal" and they wanted to clear out stock, they'd be lowering the price. They wouldn't be coming out with new colors, a bunch of new bands, and another limited edition with Hermes.
It's pretty clear Apple had supply issues during the April launch. That's why distribution was limited.
I'm not sure what you mean by you guys change your mouth so fast. I assume that "people like me" say one thing and then another later? I understand you may not be specifically targeting me but you did reply to my comment. So all I can do is respond to that as if we had a previous conversation where I did say it could only be sold in high end boutiques. Well, I never said that or ever commented on them doing that. This is the first time I have offered my opinion on this matter honestly. I don't really care where they sell it. They can sell it from high end boutiques to walmart for all it matters to me. I enjoy the product, not the marketing surrounding it or the stores they choose to sell it in.
I'm not sure how I got lumped into "these guys" that flip flop on such important matters as where apple chooses to sell its product.
As to your question I have no idea why they choose certain stores in the beginning that could sell it. Perhaps a slow rollout? I don't know. I just know that I, as in me personally and not speaking for anyone else, never viewed it as some high end fashion accessory.
And as a side note as to not leave "these guys" undefended one is allowed to change their opinion later when they realize something new or different about their earlier said opinion.
Or Apple is seeing better than expected demand for the Apple Watch Sport and has decided to expand the number of sales outlets?
If sales were "abysmal" and they wanted to clear out stock, they'd be lowering the price. They wouldn't be coming out with new colors, a bunch of new bands, and another limited edition with Hermes.
It's pretty clear Apple had supply issues during the April launch. That's why distribution was limited.
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I can agree with some of your points. I guess at end of day companies have hopes for a product and either it falls flat or they adjust their expectations or how they offer that product to the public.Sorry.. I was not meaning to single you out. I was meaning generally the Apple worshippers.
When Apple started marketing campaign of Watch.. the steps the followed:
1. Angela Ahrendts from Burberry ... (subtle meaning.. we are going high end fashion). Otherwise why hire somebody from fashion industry to run a technology retail space?
2. Please don't tell me that all these analysts predicting Apple giving trouble to Swiss watch companies unless they are being fed by Apple. There are numerous articles mentioning Mr. Ive telling that Swiss watch makers are in trouble because of Apple Watch. Knowing that Apple Watch price, we know whom he was targeting.
3. Then the roll out! Oh My! Only high end fashion stores outside of Apple Stores.. Really? Is the watch that special and sell it in the stores that don't sell iPhones? What is so special that only rich people can pay to buy $350+ watch when every normal person is buying iPhones in the similar price range. I will tell you why? Because they thought rich won't mind spending this much money just to be unique. But I guess that fell flat.
4. Now we are seeing watches at Best Buy and Target. When the iPhones are already at these stores, I don't see why Apple couldn't have use the same supply chain route to sell watches. Anyways, the Apple Watch need iPhone.
At the end, it's an watch made out of technology is only suitable for geeks (not in any offending way!). So it will be popular only in Silicon valley or techie areas. Not in any fashion industry. Hope, Apple realizes it sooner!
And let's not forget that Best Buy expanded Watch to all its stores. Why would they expand to all their stores and dedicate floor space to a product that is a flop and no one wants?That's interesting conjecture. When Best Buy announced the Apple Watch would be available in all stores, people said the same thing (it was a sign that Apple Watches weren't selling).
So if I am to understand this straight, the more and more retail stores that pick up the Apple Watch, the greater of a failure it is? When iPhones started selling in Best Buy and Target, was that a sign of sales failure? iPads? MacBooks? Ever increasing retail presence equals doom?
Best Buy's announcement to bring Apple Watch to all stores was after a trial period where they first sold it in only a few select stores. So Best Buy saw the Apple Watch tank, then said, yep, let's put this in all of our stores?
This seems completely backward to me. Retailers don't want to use up shelf space for something that doesn't sell. Brick and mortar shelf space is expensive.
So, yeah, I'm not buying this theory. Maybe the Apple Watch is doing well, maybe not, but increased retail presence is certainly not a sign of failure. If that increased retail presence was seeing Apple Watches in tossed in bargain bins at every Walgreens and Rite Aid, yes, I'd see that as a failure. But Best Buy and Target are both current Apple partners--this seems like a natural extension of the partnership.
It wasn't long ago when Apple had placed their watch on a pedestal so high that they only wanted to offer it in high end boutique stores, and now it's being sold at Target. Sales must be abysmal. When will Walmart get them?
It wasn't long ago when Apple had placed their watch on a pedestal so high that they only wanted to offer it in high end boutique stores, and now it's being sold at Target. Sales must be abysmal. When will Walmart get them?
I remember the days when I had to make an appointment just to buy a Commodore 64. I remember sitting in a small waiting room of a building at the back of an industrial park, while they went to fetch the box.Premium products and Target - never used those words together
It looks like Apple is pulling out all stops to increase sales. Long gone are the days that you needed to make an appointment at apple just to view the watch. Why a stark difference from then to now.
Apple lowered the price of the original iPhone by $200 74 days after its launch. Making the product available across a wider distribution network and expanding the product line aren't signs of failure. They are signs of success.Apple is not going to lower prices, that would be too obvious a move of desperation and negative headlines would be all over the place. Making the device more accessible and appeal to a wider audience is a much smarter idea than lowering prices. Being the Apple fan that you are, you should know Apple does not lower prices in the manner you're suggesting. If/When a price drop does happen, it coincides with a new product release. The Apple Watch is a bust, anyone who's not an ADF (Apple Defense Force) member called it before it's release.
So I guess iPhones and iPads aren't "premium products" because they're sold at Target too you know. And yeah now that there aren't supply constraints it's easier to see and buy the Watch. What's so surprising about that?!?Premium products and Target - never used those words together
It looks like Apple is pulling out all stops to increase sales. Long gone are the days that you needed to make an appointment at apple just to view the watch. Why a stark difference from then to now.
Swap out Watch for iPhone or iPad. Target sells those too.Okay is this really necessary? There's just way too many combinations to be put in a department store. Not to mention it just doesn't seem like it fits; I don't know why. No it's not because Target isn't nice. The upper-middle class has been claiming those stores as their turf for years. I just can't picture a shopping list that goes:
1. Milk
2. Eggs
3. Laundry detergent
4. Apple Watch
Like "Oh I almost forgot! I need to grab my thousand dollar Apple Watch. Man, you come in for the necessities and then they always get ya with something else."
3. Then the roll out! Oh My! Only high end fashion stores outside of Apple Stores.. Really? Is the watch that special and sell it in the stores that don't sell iPhones? What is so special that only rich people can pay to buy $350+ watch when every normal person is buying iPhones in the similar price range. I will tell you why? Because they thought rich won't mind spending this much money just to be unique. But I guess that fell flat.
4. Now we are seeing watches at Best Buy and Target. When the iPhones are already at these stores, I don't see why Apple couldn't have use the same supply chain route to sell watches. Anyways, the Apple Watch need iPhone.
At the end, it's an watch made out of technology is only suitable for geeks (not in any offending way!). So it will be popular only in Silicon valley or techie areas. Not in any fashion industry. Hope, Apple realizes it sooner!
I didn't know there was a certain clientele for a $349 watch.I wonder if this means prices are going to drop!!! Target is known for lower prices...a whole different clientele.
Oh no I disagree....just yesterday I saw a pic of Eddie Cue wearing his Apple Watch with Orange Sport Band matched up with his Grimace purple shirt....if that doesn't scream trendy fashion then I don't know what d.....
Wait. Nvm.
Because BestBuy and Target weren't worthy of such a premium product. I think Apple realized that the demographic they were shooting for didn't jump on the watch like they had hoped.Why didn't Apple allow Target and Best Buy to sell from the beginning?
Were people snarky when Apple started selling products at Walmart (under Steve Jobs reign)?
Do you know what is Tim Cook's speciality in Apple before being CEO? If he couldn't forsee that, then I will be damned!Or given all the reports about the QC issues at Qanta and the supply chain constraints, Apple concluded it couldn't do a massive introduction, but since it promised the Watch in "Early 2015" it decided it had to do some sort of launch, and limited the distribution chain to what it could reasonably ship? Given that it took over 2 months before there was enough supply even for Apple's own retail stores, isn't this a more logical explanation?
Except that apple positioned the watch as a premium product, i.e., just look at how they were marketing it prior the roll out. There's no way they would have been in those high end fashion magazines if they didn't consider it a premium product. Also look at the Apple Watch Edition, again another sign of being a product product.So I guess iPhones and iPads aren't "premium products" because they're sold at Target too you know. And yeah now that there aren't supply constraints it's easier to see and buy the Watch. What's so surprising about that?!?
Right if you didn't see it, it didn't happen. In particular:When was the watch on fashion runways? I must have missed that?
I'm not buying that. Apple wants as many of these on people's wrists as they can sell.Except that apple positioned the watch as a premium product, i.e., just look at how they were marketing it prior the roll out. There's no way they would have been in those high end fashion magazines if they didn't consider it a premium product. Also look at the Apple Watch Edition, again another sign of being a product product.
He's got a few other things to oversee these days. Qanta was a new supplier for the MacBook and Watch, and they had some teething problems.Do you know what is Tim Cook's speciality in Apple before being CEO? If he couldn't forsee that, then I will be damned!
I'm not buying that. Apple wants as many of these on people's wrists as they can sell.
The fashion placement was an attempt to distance themselves from the geeky image of calculator watches and most previous smart watches. But getting it widely available by the holiday shopping season was their plan all along. Some of the decisions they made during the initial launch were affected by supply constraints. And the OS wasn't really finished. Watch OS 2, launched only four months after delivery of the first Apple Watch deliveries suggests that they didn't have everything working well enough at the beginning to support native 3rd party apps.
Wrong. I get 15% off of basically everything in the store. From iPads, to PS4s, to soon: Apple watches.