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I agree. I think it's doing pretty well for something in this product category at this point in time.

Especially considering that it has the look of old smartwatch tech, it doesn't do anything in particular better than any other smartwatch, and its price is a bit high.

Thanks for offering your personal aesthetic. I happen to think that it looks better than any Android Wear product, and rectangular screens make 1000x more sense for a smartwatch than circular screens, so opinions vary. Your opinion on the Apple Watch's price, for example...$350 might be high for you, but it's obviously not too high for millions of people.
 
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Same here.

I think the product was great actually, far better than the completion. For me the concept of the wearable was the failure. My phone did everything better, faster without awkward constraints.

I hoped apple would redefine the wearable, instead of making the best version of what was out there.

Not much a wearable fan here too.

A real computer still does thing faster and comfortably than a smartphone.

To get work done if only have so much time, certainly I won't whip out a smartphone (even iPhone).

Working on a smartphone is still a pain

Not to mention a wearable watch. It is a nay, for me.

If I have time to waste.....may be.
 
The problem with current smart watches is that they are too dependent on smartphones. There needs to be a smart watch that can operate without you needing to have your smartphone nearby.
 
Go see the Apple Watch reveal on youtube please. The way Tim Cook introduced this product is embarrassing, he introduced like it was a mind blowing revolutionary product ahead of its time, better than everything Apple had done combined.
He's fake.

I think he was trying to follow in the foot steps of SJ with the iPhone & iPad introduction but he didn't recognize that simply saying a product is revolutionary without being actually revolutionary makes the words hollow.

I remember watching the introduction and being like... well android wear already does that.
 
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The problem with current smart watches is that they are too dependent on smartphones. There needs to be a smart watch that can operate without you needing to have your smartphone nearby.
if batter life wasn't an issue then we would already have that.
 
still impressive numbers for US alone, looking to see world wide figures though and I will be picking up my Apple Watch tomorrow. :):apple::D

Agreed re: world wide numbers. Three million units sold is nice, especially since you really need another device to take advantage of the features.

The world numbers is going to be very, very, interesting!
 
Apple has always combined technology with liberal arts and humanities. There will never be and there never was a division focused on real computers.

OK, queue in semantical arguing:

I agree "Apple has always combined technology with liberal arts and humanities".

The argument I made is that recently, the needle is leaning way, way further into the "liberal arts and humanities" while "dumbing-down" (or crippling, limiting, locking-down, or whatever term you want to use) the "technology" part.

The definition of "real computers" does vary depending on who you ask, but the fact remains that Apple "computers" of today are far more like appliances than the devices Apple made when the term "Computer" was still in the company's name.

So, when I say "real computer", I mean "not a sealed, unnecessarily proprietary appliance".
 
Yes you're right but thats not the case, this is Apple and those numbers are really bad for their new biggest product, specially because it's the first new product after Steve Jobs and it seems to be a total failure.

As pointed out earlier, it's sales are in line with other major Apple first gen products, and it's an accessory at that. That doesn't seem to be a total failure, at least at this point.
 
As pointed out earlier, it's sales are in line with other major Apple first gen products, and it's an accessory at that. That doesn't seem to be a total failure, at least at this point.
And also as you say it's not a stand alone device so why are people comparing sales to iphone or ipad?
 
The problem with current smart watches is that they are too dependent on smartphones. There needs to be a smart watch that can operate without you needing to have your smartphone nearby.
But if they did it would hammer battery life
 
I personally and frankly don't want an Apple watch even if it was half the current price.and at least 5 other people that I spoke to shared tge same disinterest.needless to say all of us are avid Apple fans and own a good number of Apple products.
face it : Apple Watch is never going to be a success.it will be a hobby product like Apple TV.
 
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And also as you say it's not a stand alone device so why are people comparing sales to iphone or ipad?

For the purposes of replying to people calling it an obvious failure so far. It's both not obvious (since the numbers in the original article (for what they're worth) are in line with previous released products) and expecting it to reach the same numbers as the other products is foolhardy (since it's an accessory).

I have no idea if it's a "failure" or a "success", I just know that based off of those numbers, it's a lot more revenue (~ $1.5 Billion in revenue is a lot, even for a company that brought in $58 Billion in Q2. For example it's triple the revenue of Twitter, just for the watch).
 
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The problem with current smart watches is that they are too dependent on smartphones. There needs to be a smart watch that can operate without you needing to have your smartphone nearby.
It's called the Samsung galaxy gear S.

I prefer the apple watch though.
 
The problem with current smart watches is that they are too dependent on smartphones. There needs to be a smart watch that can operate without you needing to have your smartphone nearby.
It's called the Samsung galaxy gear S.

I prefer the apple watch though.
 
people are still going away from Windows devices, not toward them
.

not sure bout the rest of the post, but this has to STOP BEING REPEATED

Apple has done a fantastic job at moving up in the PC sales market. From 6% to 12% in about a decade. But Apple is NOT stealing vast numbers of WINDOWS users.

Considering that Apple computers now also run Windows, its near impossible to claim what the true breakdown of Windows to OSx is, but it's definitely estimated that OSx is < 10% of the worldwide marketshare of Computer users.

better than 5% for sure, But there's not some mass global move away from Windows that you'd like to believe. This is an unfortunate misunderstanding and misinterpretation by Apple's fantastic product placement in popular culture.

some sources:
http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems
http://www.tekrevue.com/windows-8-outpaces-os-x-mavericks/

The simple fact that Windows 8, with it's terrible UI choices, at 8.5% is estimated to have already blown completely by all of OSx install base is telling.

Don't get me wrong, I RUN OSx. I also run windows on my Macs as well.

sorry, I just get a bit of OCD when Hyperbolic statements are used that aren't fundamentally backed in fact

But there is not vast migration away from windows that you claim

OnTOPIC

as for the AW: how do any of us know ifit was a success or not. if Apple's budgeting profit and loss on the device was accurate and they've hit the numbers that the accountants put in the books, it is by all intents and purposes, a success.

we just wont know. We're never privy to that
 
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I still don't understand how slice can get over 3 million Apple watch sales to date from a pool of 2.5 million they use to gather their survey data.
 
And if you want to discredit Slice (and if you do, I'd like to know what your professional qualifications are that allow you to do so), look around you.

Hence the 2 points. Everyone here will argue both of them. They'll tell you anything to refute them both, but it is what it is. I'll hapilly eat my words if I'm wrong, but I strongly suspect that I'm not. If sales were through the roof, no matter what Tim Cook said, they'd be bragging about it. They knew this would happen, which is why they didn't plan to talk #'s.

I feel like you read my post and interpreted it as meaning 'gosh guys, of course it sold incredibly well'. That's not what I was saying at all, I said right in my post that it easily could be a huge flop. My only point was that it's too early to tell for either the naysayers or the supporters.
 
Hmm...it's no surprise that the Apple Watch Edition sales aren't as big as the others, but I guess the $25,687,500.00 revenue that Apple has pocketed from just those watches alone is no small amount.
 
Why is Mac Rumors so obsessed with Slice Ingelligence? When in the past have they ever predicted sales of other Apple products and done so accurately? And since their data doesn't include all launch countries how accurate can it be anyway?
I agree 100%. This is just a US sales estimate at best.
 
not sure bout the rest of the post, but this has to STOP BEING REPEATED

Apple has done a fantastic job at moving up in the PC sales market. From 6% to 12% in about a decade. But Apple is NOT stealing vast numbers of WINDOWS users.

Considering that Apple computers now also run Windows, its near impossible to claim what the true breakdown of Windows to OSx is, but it's definitely estimated that OSx is < 10% of the worldwide marketshare of Computer users.

better than 5% for sure, But there's not some mass global move away from Windows that you'd like to believe. This is an unfortunate misunderstanding and misinterpretation by Apple's fantastic product placement in popular culture.

some sources:
http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems
http://www.tekrevue.com/windows-8-outpaces-os-x-mavericks/

The simple fact that Windows 8, with it's terrible UI choices, at 8.5% is estimated to have already blown completely by all of OSx install base is telling.

Don't get me wrong, I RUN OSx. I also run windows on my Macs as well.

sorry, I just get a bit of OCD when Hyperbolic statements are used that aren't fundamentally backed in fact

But there is not vast migration away from windows that you claim

OnTOPIC

as for the AW: how do any of us know ifit was a success or not. if Apple's budgeting profit and loss on the device was accurate and they've hit the numbers that the accountants put in the books, it is by all intents and purposes, a success.

we just wont know. We're never privy to that



Your response is a bit knee jerk based on something in your head, not what I actually wrote.

1. I didn't write that Windows was losing share to OS X.
2. I didn't write that Windows was losing share to Apple.

What I wrote was, and I quote verbatim: "people are still going away from Windows devices."

It's not 1994. Mac vs PC is dead. It's traditional computers vs tablets and smartphones now. More and more businesses are giving employees tablets and smartphones in lieu of desktops and laptops, where the latter are overkill for their communications needs. Same goes for consumers. Where homes once had a desktop and a laptop, now have a laptop and a tablet or multiple smartphones. Fewer people are buying laptops and desktops of any OS, and those who are buying, are buying fewer of them.

I wrote what I wrote because the Surface Pro contains a flavor of Windows 8. And while mobile is the big sales segment, the Surface Pro has yet to gain any real traction, notwithstanding Microsoft's huge NFL promotion.

If you are still in doubt then you can start with this Fortune Article: http://fortune.com/2015/04/23/microsoft-cloud-windows-decline/
 
Apple Watch is never going to be a success.it will be a hobby product like Apple TV.

It depends how one would define success and what the organisation desires. I don't think Apple is expecting the Watch to be similar in terms of revenue to the iPhone or iPad. And those that do expect this don't understand the market enough. Even if the wearables market increases very fast, it would never attain the size of these aforementioned products.

It is most likely that Apple defines success for the Apple Watch as it having the largest and growing market share in any of Apples markets within the year that it is introduced, and that it is driven by sales of the iPhone and vice versa. So an increase in market share for the iPhone results in an increase in market share for the watch.

In terms of importance for its mobile computing line, I'm sure Apple rates the Watch much higher than the Apple TV (judging by the amount of development and marketing effort) and doesn't consider it a hobby. 3 million watches sold might seem like a small amount if you think in iPhone terms, but looking at the entire wearables market it is very very impressive. They succeeded in blowing the competition out of the way in the most important and most developed wearables market on the planet.
 
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