It's nothing to do with what I like or don't, I'm just pointing out that based on your complaint it sounds like you're using it wrong, because a single regular crown press shouldn't trigger Siri.
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Apple WatchOS 10, why oh why?
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You eliminate the need to switch between faces and instead you have to scroll through widgets?
What is easier to do? Swiping of course.
Imagine 3 faces Infograph with eight complications.
Good luck with 24 widgets to scroll through.
If you need more swipes, taps and scrolls to get the same information as on watchOS9, it is not something I have to get used to. It is just plain dumb.
Really? There've been several comments about uncommanded face changes on this forum. I was getting them multiple times a day while going about my daily routine. To stop it happening I had removed all faces except 'Modular' which I find to be the most useful & legible for my purposes.
It's like Apple read my mind when they put 'swipe to change face' behind a long press with the 10 beta. Perfect!
I've downgraded to watchOS 9 by buying a used Apple Watch (same model, same colour) that still ran the older version of the OS. But that is an option that will fast disappear.I wish I had, but obviously it's too late now. Either way, I don't understand the decision to access widgets 3 ways
There is the aspect of using the crown vs swiping from an edge. But apart from this previously you swiped left or right to get to a watch face which had, via complications, this information. Now you swipe up to get to that information. In terms of user interaction this seems more like a lateral move.
That widgets display more than the vast majority of complications by virtue of being larger (and just being a, theoretically infinite, simple linear list also visually and conceptually simpler than complications spread over potentially multiple watch faces) can be an advantage.
Time might be running out quickly, but you can do as I did: Buy a used Apple Watch that still runs watchOS 9.
I have 13 complications, and I use them mainly to launch apps, though some display useful information directly. And sad thing is that the introduction of the smart stack in no way, shape or form required the removal of the right/left swipe to change watch faces. That most likely was just done because it was thought that more people get bothered by accidentally changing the watch face than would be bothered by having to hold, swipe, tap to change watch faces.
Of course, maybe somebody thought that the smart stack made complications and thus multiple watch faces less important and this then changed the balance between 'saving' people from accidentally changing faces and 'annoying' people that frequently changed watch faces.
Eliminating the need to switch watch faces is all well and good. Eliminating the ability to do so easily, is the opposite.
And why swiping up would be an improvement on swiping left or right, is also a mystery to me. I also prefer to swipe with touch screens instead of using a mechanical wheel, but that is just me.
And 'locking' watch faces is something that could have been easily made a preference, it could have even been the default. There is no need for Apple to bless one part of their users and annoy another part here.
Or simply downgrade to watchOS 9 by buying a used Apple Watch that still runs it. Seems like the most simple solution.
I was just fine up to the new os. I have had the apple watch since the second one came out. So I am using it the same as I always have been and this is the first time I have had trouble. IT isn't just siri -siri is just one of the many hates I have on this version. I hate this version even more than last year's version which for my uses screwed up the weather complication among others- I can't read it anymore and I don't want the range -just the current temp. There are other annoyances as well. Siri I just hate in general.
Since I don't have the code to look at I really can't comment. Can you?
Yeah I suppose going through all that just to swipe through watch faces to get the same information that’s already available several other ways is a bit easier than just learning how to use the multitude of features available.
I love watchOS 10 myself, everything feels more intuitive to me now and I already can't imagine going back to 9. I use the new widgets a lot. I do still have a few annoyances like the stopwatch being a blinding white instead of making use of the oled screen, this can be said for a lot of apps now. When you have music or a podcast playing it's nearly impossible to hit the little dot with my big fingers on the little SE.
But other than that it's a solid upgrade for me.
But other than that it's a solid upgrade for me.
Pray tell, how do you launch ~15 different apps with only one or two swipes and a tap in watchOS 10? Pin widgets from 15 apps to the Smart Stack? According to Apple you are limited to 10 widgets. I guess if you use the complications widget, you get two more apps, plus the complications on your main watch face (which is three on my watch, I don’t like things too cluttered there), you just about make it to 15. But if you want more, you are out of luck.
Widgets show more information than most complications because they are larger. The flip side is that you can fit more complications on the screen than widgets. And widgets are a definitely a worse app launcher, scrolling them takes longer, you only ever see three of them at the same time, it’s a ‘non-linear’ scroll, things snap into place. If I wanted to scroll through a list to get to an app, I can just press the crown and I get a list I can scroll through.
Complications might have originally been designed to display information but most serve as app launchers today. Widgets are even more designed to show information but people will also use them to launch apps, simply because there is only so much that a widget can show, often you want more (or just better legibility) and thus the full app.
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I wonder what was conceptually less intuitive in a system where you used your watch faces as home screens like on iPhones, launched apps from there and moved to a different app by returning to the ‘home screen’ and then opening the next app?
Widgets might be great for some things but I like the ability to change the look of the watch completely by simply swiping left or right as well as the ability to quickly access launch buttons by switching to a different watch face too much, to give that up for widgets.
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You really think I didn’t try that? I am faster going through the list view of all apps than using this screen. There are a whole host of reasons why that view is disliked by a lot of people.
For starters, it shows all apps which is whole lot more than what I regularly use. In my case, that is 48 ‘apps’ compared to the ~15 I use somewhat regularly and have access to via complications spread over three watch faces. Picking something from a group of 15 (or more like 6 per watch face), is much easier than doing so from a collection of 48 icons.
They are also arranged in some preset order (alphabetically?), I cannot group them in a way that makes sense to me. They also move around as you try to get to the ones not currently on screen. Bad for spatial memory. I am better in remembering that a certain app is in for example the bottom middle position on watch face two, than finding an app icon in this sea of icons.
Take the Home Screen of an iPhone where you can curate which apps you place on which screen, in which location, which apps you group together and then on top of that some app icons show actual content like the temperature (as a complication on the watch can) or the the date as the icon for the calendar app can. And then compare that with this this fluid, moving soup of app icons. There is a good reason why this soup option doesn’t exist on iPhones.
Have you actually tried this view on watchOS 10? Because what you describe sounds like you never used it, which is why I suggested learning to make the features that exist already work for you.
Grid view is no longer an amorphous blob of apps which everybody including myself hated. Apple finally copied WearOS and now it scrolls from top to bottom. You can place them in any order you want, such as putting the 15 apps you use the most at the top.
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You can rearrange the apps to have your favorite once at the top, easier to do from the watch app vs actual watch