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Tim Cook should stop horsing around with Watch faces for kids and give us new Macs! Tim Cook out! </sarc>
Oh please. They are two separate products. Do you actually think that if apple stopped doing more watch faces, that there would be any effect on other apple products. I see people say this frequently and it's just as absurd every time it's mentioned. Apple can in fact do many things at one time. They have the money and resources to do that. If you think otherwise, you really don't know apple!
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It’s been two years to the day since Apple CEO Tim Cook introduced the Apple Watch, the company’s first new product line under his leadership, but revenue figures suggest consumers still aren’t sold.

Apple’s biggest launch since the iPad in 2010, the Apple Watch was expected to be a hit: Given the massive financial success of the iPhone, it stood to reason that a companion device might be something customers craved.

Not so much. Apple has never shared hard numbers on how many wearables it has sold, and doesn’t even break out Watch sales in its quarterly earnings report. Instead, the device is bundled into Apple’s “Other products,” which the company says includes, “Apple TV, Apple Watch, Beats products, iPod and Apple-branded and third-party accessories.”

In the April-June quarter of 2015, the first quarter that the Apple Watch was on sale, “Other products” revenue jumped to $2.6 billion from around $1.7 billion in the preceding quarter. But after that initial spike, plus a slight bump the following quarter, “Other products” sales have been on a downward trend, and currently represent just 5% of Apple’s overall revenue. An updated version of the Watch, which debuted in September, doesn’t appear to have significantly impacted sales.

Of course, a multibillion-dollar revenue stream is nothing to scoff at. But “Other products” is Apple’s smallest revenue stream, and only part of it is comes from the Watch. Even in quarters that saw a record number of iPhone sales, Apple could not entice a comparatively larger group of people to try the Apple Watch.

Two years and two iterations after its launch, the Apple Watch has not proven to be as indispensable as the iPhone, or even as lucrative as the Mac, the iPad, or Apple’s services businesses. It’s unclear whether an iPhone-like overhaul, or attempts to market the watch directly to athletes or millennials, will ultimately make a difference.

https://qz.com/967256/two-years-aft...-a-difference-at-apples-revenue-streams-aapl/

This is all fake news. The watch is very successful.
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Time to kill the Apple Watch. It has not caught on, and has had several years to do so. It is an extremely niche product, that makes Apple PENNIES, even less the their Mac lineup nowadays.

Concentrate on fixing iOS and some fresh, new design and stop wasting resources on a product that isn't growing.

This is completely absurd thinking. The watch is doing fine. If you don't know that, then you don't know apple.
 
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This statement is not a knock on the Apple Watch... at all, but how is it you consider the AW a high end device? It's a commodity smartwatch that can be had for as little as $250 retail. It seems to be the perfect platform for these, and other watch faces, both novelty and customer created. Should have a 3rd party watch face choices, but that's a whole other topic. Again, not knocking the AW, just piqued by the high end comment.

I guess "high-end" is subjective but IMHO I consider all Apple devices to be "high-end." I mean just watch this video: Apple Promo Video and tell me Apple wasn't targeting the Apple Watch to be a high-end device. I certainly don't see Casio, Timex, or Fossil putting out these types of videos.
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Its because of Pixar. Jobs created Pixar. This is Pixars first movie.
I guess I didn't draw that connection. Thanks for pointing it out as I'm guessing that connection went over many heads.
 
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I guess "high-end" is subjective but IMHO I consider all Apple devices to be "high-end." I mean just watch this video: Apple Promo Video and tell me Apple wasn't targeting the Apple Watch to be a high-end device. I certainly don't see Casio, Timex, or Fossil putting out these types of videos.

They pivoted. The first gen was absolutely intended to be a fashionable, be seen type of product.
Latest gen is so much more aimed at mainstream fitness users.
It's still not cheap, but consider Garmin's are the same if not more.
 
It’s been two years to the day since Apple CEO Tim Cook introduced the Apple Watch, the company’s first new product line under his leadership, but revenue figures suggest consumers still aren’t sold.

Apple’s biggest launch since the iPad in 2010, the Apple Watch was expected to be a hit: Given the massive financial success of the iPhone, it stood to reason that a companion device might be something customers craved.

Not so much. Apple has never shared hard numbers on how many wearables it has sold, and doesn’t even break out Watch sales in its quarterly earnings report. Instead, the device is bundled into Apple’s “Other products,” which the company says includes, “Apple TV, Apple Watch, Beats products, iPod and Apple-branded and third-party accessories.”

In the April-June quarter of 2015, the first quarter that the Apple Watch was on sale, “Other products” revenue jumped to $2.6 billion from around $1.7 billion in the preceding quarter. But after that initial spike, plus a slight bump the following quarter, “Other products” sales have been on a downward trend, and currently represent just 5% of Apple’s overall revenue. An updated version of the Watch, which debuted in September, doesn’t appear to have significantly impacted sales.

Of course, a multibillion-dollar revenue stream is nothing to scoff at. But “Other products” is Apple’s smallest revenue stream, and only part of it is comes from the Watch. Even in quarters that saw a record number of iPhone sales, Apple could not entice a comparatively larger group of people to try the Apple Watch.

Two years and two iterations after its launch, the Apple Watch has not proven to be as indispensable as the iPhone, or even as lucrative as the Mac, the iPad, or Apple’s services businesses. It’s unclear whether an iPhone-like overhaul, or attempts to market the watch directly to athletes or millennials, will ultimately make a difference.

https://qz.com/967256/two-years-aft...-a-difference-at-apples-revenue-streams-aapl/

Unreleased sales numbers doesn't classify the Watch as a "Failure" either. Nor is the Apple Watch own its own merit like the iPad or Mac, because it's an accessory direct to the iPhone, hence why I asked you what was the correlation to your first post. You're free to believe what you want, but It's evident the Apple Watch has grown exponentially and expanded beyond Apple's expectations.

Regardless of sales numbers and the last quarter for the Holiday season, Cook stated sales were so high, they could not keep up with manufacturing. That speaks volumes to me.

https://www.imore.com/who-watches-apple-watch-watchers?amp
 
It’s been two years to the day since Apple CEO Tim Cook introduced the Apple Watch, the company’s first new product line under his leadership, but revenue figures suggest consumers still aren’t sold.

Apple’s biggest launch since the iPad in 2010, the Apple Watch was expected to be a hit: Given the massive financial success of the iPhone, it stood to reason that a companion device might be something customers craved.

Not so much. Apple has never shared hard numbers on how many wearables it has sold, and doesn’t even break out Watch sales in its quarterly earnings report. Instead, the device is bundled into Apple’s “Other products,” which the company says includes, “Apple TV, Apple Watch, Beats products, iPod and Apple-branded and third-party accessories.”

In the April-June quarter of 2015, the first quarter that the Apple Watch was on sale, “Other products” revenue jumped to $2.6 billion from around $1.7 billion in the preceding quarter. But after that initial spike, plus a slight bump the following quarter, “Other products” sales have been on a downward trend, and currently represent just 5% of Apple’s overall revenue. An updated version of the Watch, which debuted in September, doesn’t appear to have significantly impacted sales.

Of course, a multibillion-dollar revenue stream is nothing to scoff at. But “Other products” is Apple’s smallest revenue stream, and only part of it is comes from the Watch. Even in quarters that saw a record number of iPhone sales, Apple could not entice a comparatively larger group of people to try the Apple Watch.

Two years and two iterations after its launch, the Apple Watch has not proven to be as indispensable as the iPhone, or even as lucrative as the Mac, the iPad, or Apple’s services businesses. It’s unclear whether an iPhone-like overhaul, or attempts to market the watch directly to athletes or millennials, will ultimately make a difference.

https://qz.com/967256/two-years-aft...-a-difference-at-apples-revenue-streams-aapl/
What's your benchmark for determining success? Because comparatively speaking, the AW could be a runaway success or a complete dud.
  • If your benchmark is iPhone sales? It's a dud, but so is every other product Apple has ever produced.
  • If your benchmark is Mac sales? It's a success. Less so as a revenue generator because of price point, but still a success
  • If your benchmark is the smartwatch category sales? It's an unqualified success.
  • If your benchmark is the entire watch category sales, smart or otherwise? Still, unqualified success.

Will it ever reach iPhone levels of success? Probably not since wearing a watch isn't exactly en vogue these days. But to introduce a product and have it immediately become the most successful product in it's category is not something dismissed so easily as a failure. Mind you, this is coming from someone who has no desire to own a smartwatch.
 
Still cannot believe they can come up with stickers, but no watch face store. Would seem to be a way for them to make easy money.
 
I guess "high-end" is subjective but IMHO I consider all Apple devices to be "high-end." I mean just watch this video: Apple Promo Video and tell me Apple wasn't targeting the Apple Watch to be a high-end device. I certainly don't see Casio, Timex, or Fossil putting out these types of videos.
No judgment from me. I was just curious why you considered the AW high end. That video... is that an actual Apple video? Doesn't look like it to me. Thematically, it's off somehow.
 
This statement is not a knock on the Apple Watch... at all, but how is it you consider the AW a high end device? It's a commodity smartwatch that can be had for as little as $250 retail. It seems to be the perfect platform for these, and other watch faces, both novelty and customer created. Should have a 3rd party watch face choices, but that's a whole other topic. Again, not knocking the AW, just piqued by the high end comment.

This is true. And I have a few stainless model Apple Watches, which boast the highest price tag. As much as I like sporting the stainless model Apple Watch (Including the link bands I own) and it has a plethora of capabilities, its a superfluous accessory that will lose software support eventually and overall value. I like to think of it as a higher end Watch, but it's completely opposite, because it's a tech piece that holds no value, as to where a Rado or Omega will likely gain/retain value because of craftsmanship or rarity.

Even when someone Purchased the Series 2 when it launched or later on, it's already considered dated, because Apple already has another Apple Watch preceding the current model.

It's a great tech piece that can do so many things and convenience us in notifications, fitness and future health advancements, but it always be classified as a piece of replaceable technology, even if someone doesn't want to believe that.
 
This is true. And I have a few stainless model Apple Watches, which boast the highest price tag. As much as I like sporting the stainless model Apple Watch (Including the link bands I own) and it has a plethora of capabilities, its a superfluous accessory that will lose software support eventually and overall value. I like to think of it as a higher end Watch, but it's completely opposite, because it's a tech piece that holds no value, as to where a Rado or Omega will likely gain/retain value because of craftsmanship or rarity.

Even when someone Purchased the Series 2 when it launched or later on, it's already considered dated, because Apple already has another Apple Watch preceding the current model.

It's a great tech piece that can do so many things and convenience us in notifications, fitness and future health advancements, but it always be classified as a piece of replaceable technology, even if someone doesn't want to believe that.
Yup. This. To me, it's just tech and I am an unapologetic tech geek. When I think of high end, I don't think of things I can get at big box discount retailers like Walmart and Costco. I gotta reiterate not knocking the AW, Walmart, or Costco. I've gotten plenty of things from each of those discounters (just picked up a cheap Sammy soundbar and subwoofer combo from Wallyworld for my XB1S - storm blew my other speakers:(). My definition of high end only works for me and I hope Kyle doesn't think I was belittling his high end opinion.
 
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Maybe I just need to see them in action, but these look really uninspired. At least do something like the Mickey/Minnie Mouse watches, rotate their arms or something.
 
Yup. This. To me, it's just tech and I am an unapologetic tech geek. When I think of high end, I don't think of things I can get at big box discount retailers like Walmart and Costco. I gotta reiterate not knocking the AW, Walmart, or Costco. I gotten plenty of things from each of those discounters (just picked up a cheap Sammy soundbar and subwoofer combo from Wallyworld for my XB1S - storm blew my other speakers:(). My definition of high end only works for me and I hope Kyle doesn't think I was belittling his high end opinion.

Your post wasn't belittling. It's just the hard facts of technology unfortunately. The Apple Watch and other smart Watch classifies in this category.

Off topic, I know you will be purchasing Assassins Creed Origins in the next few months based off that avatar. (And.....I'm adding the X-Box One X to my list as well for November.)
 
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Oh please. They are two separate products. Do you actually think that if apple stopped doing more watch faces, that there would be any effect on other apple products. I see people say this frequently and it's just as absurd every time it's mentioned. Apple can in fact do many things at one time. They have the money and resources to do that. If you think otherwise, you really don't know apple!

I guess I should have fully completed my imaginary tag --> "</sarcasm>"

It *is* absurd and I was intending to parody all the trolls that post here ad infinitum, straining to turn any and everything into an occasion for fake outrage. ;)
 
Your post wasn't belittling. It's just the hard facts of technology unfortunately. The Apple Watch and other smart Watch classifies in this category.

Off topic, I know you will be purchasing Assassins Creed Origins in the next few months based off that avatar. (And.....I'm adding the X-Box One X to my list as well for November.)
Already wife approved for the 1X, Forza 7, AC Origins.:) My daughter is getting my 1S and I'm not sure what we're going to do with the 360. Probably box it up and put it with my other old consoles. Yes, yes I am a hoarder.:(
 
These are cute but gimmicky. What I like about Mickey/Minnie is that they actually are the clock. They are an actual watch face, not just a little video clip tacked onto a mostly empty watch face. Mickey/Minnie tap/dance with the seconds. They never stop. They make the watch feel more alive (albeit in a cutesy way). These Pixar video clips would be novel then forgotten, whereas I still, 9 months later, use Mickey as my primary watch face. I'd like more characters following that design approach. Note that I did eventually disable his tap to giggle feature. Too many unintended giggles and was merely a novelty in the first place.
 
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I would much rather have these than the Star Wars crappola.
At least those would be more relevant to the age group that buys Apple watches.
I'd probably use a boba fett or storm trooper one.
I really don't understand why Apple does these. Do they want to sell watches to younger ages? Do parents use these kiddish watch faces around their families? I really don't understand why these are there.
 
Time to kill the Apple Watch. It has not caught on, and has had several years to do so. It is an extremely niche product, that makes Apple PENNIES, even less the their Mac lineup nowadays.

Concentrate on fixing iOS and some fresh, new design and stop wasting resources on a product that isn't growing.
Niche, like the Mac Pro, all the iPods, iPad Pro 12.9' should Apple kill these too?

The Apple Watch is very important for the future of Apple, now you can listen to music with an Apple Watch and AirPods without an iPhone, soon you might not need more than an Apple Glass with AR that's communicating with AirPods, Apple Watch and Siri.

If they refresh iOS each month, we'll still be complaining, we're techies, an average joe would complain about any UI refresh, look no further than how people react to any Facebook UI refresh for instance.
 
How many adults care about these Watch faces? I assume not many 8 year olds own an Apple Watch.
 
Edit: Thanks everyone for pointing out that Toy Story was Pixar's first movie with Jobs at the helm. That being said, I still wish Apple would push out more sophisticated watch faces.

Honestly I think the Jobs connect is, if anything, pretext. Otherwise why wasn't Woody on the first AW as a tribute to Jobs instead of Mickey Mouse? Of course the answer is Mickey Mouse is iconic to Disney. And who sits on the Apple board with TC? Bob Iger, Disney CEO. So this is just about giving another h/t to Disney, who also owns lots of media Apple needs for ATV, Apple Music, etc.

Side note: TC sits on Nike's board and Nike got its own Apple Watch.
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No he didn't.

Well technically yes, but for all intents and purposes the Pixar Jobs bought was not the Pixar he eventually sold.
 
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Well technically yes, but for all intents and purposes the Pixar Jobs bought was not the Pixar he eventually sold.
George Lucas was more instrumental in Pixar becoming what it was, Jobs just happened to purchase it for a steal, it's not like Pixar wasn't making ground breaking CGI before Jobs came along....sure, Jobs is entwined in Pixars history but he had nothing to do with Pixars creation.
 
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