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I agree with Apple on this one. The way the penalties are laid out they’d have to be extra careful not to run afoul and even then might still get fined.

There needs to be some revision to the law, where the EU can have open markets and Apple be able to fully release new features.

They don't need to revise the law they just need to enforce it as written instead of making provisions up as they go.
 
In short, everything stays exactly the same, this is how they run things in Europe and many other places all over the world. Only now they found a convenient shield to hide behind, even if the EU does genuinely create hurdles for them at times.

My dates may not be entirely accurate, and they cover only portions of the EU—many other countries worldwide are still waiting:
Apple Pay - US 2014 - wider EU rollout 2019
Apple News+ - US 2019 - EU TBD
Apple Sports - US 2024 - EU TBD
Apple Cash - US 2017 - EU TBD
Apple Fitness+ - US 2020 - wider EU release year later (still not available in many countries even just in English/other major languages)
Apple Intelligence - US 2024 - EU 2025, this one I partially get. They have to provide EU citizens with privacy assurances

Feel free to correct me on the dates

Yes but you'll notice something about your list—they're all services contingent upon securing regulatory approval, content rights, and/or local partners. Apple generally releases software features everywhere at the same time, until now.
 
More out of not wanted to reward bad behavior. The customer suffers.
Somehow they don't have a problem with regulation in China:


Funny, isn't it?
 
Meanwhile Apple tries everything to put their products on chinese market (with full support of their governmnet to control apple intelligence) and the sell numbers drop year after year. Like really you are upset that Apple Intelligence is not working in EU? Oh sorry I bought Iphone 16 PM in EU and what? Siri is a piece of **** globally not locally in EU. Apple is jsut hiding behind EU bc they have no resorces to support other languages then english and chinese, the whole secret. Like look at the last conference...wow they've added new glossy theme to their oses...wow! mind blown!
TLDR. Apple just sucks at delivering, without blocking Huawei by US government in EU Apple would be wiped out completely from Europe.
 
My research indicates that the EU has levied substantial fines on Apple, totaling approximately €15 billion. Additionally, there's a pending fine that could reach up to €50 million per day.

Given this significant financial pressure, it's entirely understandable why Apple is meticulously designing (or all out delaying/cancelling the launch in the EU) new features to avoid incurring further penalties.

Personally I believe that the EU's fines are less about consumer protection and more about generating tax revenue from US tech giants, and potentially hindering their US tech growth to benefit European tech companies.
 
No one in Europe actually likes the EU. The smaller countries need it to compete globally, but that’s about survival, not affection. The foundational ideas were solid, a shared currency, open borders, economic cooperation. But Brussels has become power-hungry and completely out of touch. The patronizing EU now micromanages everything down to how loud your vacuum cleaner can be. It’s absurd.
That's just factually incorrect. Just because you and/or your friends don't like EU, you can't speak for all of us.

If you actually look at facts, current approval rate of EU is around 74%.
 
Who do we think is more likely to be right? Apple? Or the regulator who thought mandating Microsoft give kernel access to third parties was a good idea, gave us a plague of cookie pop-ups, and wanted to mandate all phones use Micro-USB to charge?
It's telling that neither of these 3 scenarios is actually true. Microsoft's implementation of kernel access was completely up to them, and as we're seeing right now, they're undoing it and the EU isn't batting an eye. Why? Because how it was in the first place was never something the EU asked them to do. They required Microsoft to give equal access, that didn't mean they had to give kernel access or implement that in the way that they did. They're undoing it now because the CrowdStrike issue caused Microsoft brand damage.

The cookie pop-ups are only as bad as they are, yet again, because a few companies have made it their lives work to make the situation as bad as they could, the EU doesn't require websites to show cookie banners, websites just opted to be as much a nuisance as they could. And finally, the EU never mandated all phones use Micro-USB. That's just flat out false in any regard. They told the industry to standardize around a common port, something the industry - including Apple - agreed with, and then proceeded to do as such around USB-C, except for Apple, which in turn resulted in the EU making it an actual law.

Each and every example you give is an example of corporation's anti-consumer behavior, so I guess, yeah, this situation is actually the same after all.
 
No one in Europe actually likes the EU. The smaller countries need it to compete globally, but that’s about survival, not affection. The foundational ideas were solid, a shared currency, open borders, economic cooperation. But Brussels has become power-hungry and completely out of touch. The patronizing EU now micromanages everything down to how loud your vacuum cleaner can be. It’s absurd.
I don't have a problem with the claim, even though it's laced with hyperbole. But........can you point to any data that supports your assertion or do we just file it as BS?
Also the vaccuum cleaner thing is good. Without the EU, people will just use their variable vacs on max all the time wasting power. In fact my partner used to and still does exactly that, no matter the cleaning task at hand, (unless it's curtains for example).
I know an enormous number of people that say they don't like the EU but in the VAST majority of cases their reason comes down to things like bendy bananas.
 
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Help me understand (genuinely asking) - why would Apple not do this? To me, this seems to risk their bottom line more than the profit they'd gain from complying with the EU - so why would they not just do it - like Microsoft/Google?
 
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