Apple Will Reportedly Let iPhone Users in the EU Switch Away From Siri

[Stuwil]

It absolutely is possible. Apple has a huge ecosystem that has lots of moving parts. If you don’t agree that’s one thing. But defining which company is more innovative is purely subjective. Even when the experts do it.

What does that even mean just because a company has lots of moving parts that makes them more innovative?

If apple are that innovative then why are they allowing you to pick a different voice assistant for the iPhone

 

[surferfb]

If apple are that innovative then why are they allowing you to pick a different voice assistant for the iPhone

Because the DMA requires them to:

The gatekeeper shall allow providers of services and providers of hardware, free of charge, effective interoperability with, and access for the purposes of interoperability to, the same hardware and software features accessed or controlled via the operating system or virtual assistant listed in the designation decision pursuant to Article 3(9) as are available to services or hardware provided by the gatekeeper. Furthermore, the gatekeeper shall allow business users and alternative providers of services provided together with, or in support of, core platform services, free of charge, effective interoperability with, and access for the purposes of interoperability to, the same operating system, hardware or software features, regardless of whether those features are part of the operating system, as are available to, or used by, that gatekeeper when providing such services.

 

[Stuwil]

Probably because the DMA requires them to

do you seriously believe that Siri
Is better than the alternatives?

 

[surferfb]

do you seriously believe that Siri
Is better than the alternatives?

Nope. In fact, I've pretty much replaced Siri with ChatGPT voice for all but home control and setting timers.

But that's not what you asked.

 

[I7guy]

What does that even mean just because a company has lots of moving parts that makes them more innovative?

If apple are that innovative then why are they allowing you to pick a different voice assistant for the iPhone

If android is so innovative why did they copy airdrop. The questions are questionable. If you don’t feel Apple isn’t innovative, the stock isn’t going to fall. So go for that opinion.

 

[Stuwil]

If android is so innovative why did they copy airdrop. The questions are questionable. If you don’t feel Apple isn’t innovative, the stock isn’t going to fall. So go for that opinion.

No what I said was other companies have to be more innovative than apple
Like android & Huawei for example because they need to try new things first
Hence Tim Cook’s reign at apple

 

[I7guy]

No what I said was other companies have to be more innovative than apple

I don’t agree and this is purely subjective.

Like android & Huawei for example because they need to try new things first

Trying new things isn’t innovation be any means.

Hence Tim Cook’s reign at apple

Yes, has been very innovative.

 

[Stuwil]

I don’t agree and this is purely subjective.

Trying new things isn’t innovation be any means.

Yes, has been very innovative

the reason why android & Huawei etc
Has to be more innovative with software and devices because they need to convince people to buy there products a lot more than
Apple does

 

[I7guy]

the reason why android & Huawei etc
Has to be more innovative with software and devices because they need to convince people to buy there products a lot more than
Apple does

I agree. They can try to be more innovative but that doesn’t mean they will succeed. Innovation isn’t a light switch that can be turned off and on.

 

[Stuwil]

I agree. They can try to be more innovative but that doesn’t mean they will succeed. Innovation isn’t a light switch that can be turned off and on.

If these companies aren’t succeeding then why is apple following them?

 

[I7guy]

If these companies aren’t succeeding then why is apple following them?

Innovation is not a measure of sales. It’s a measure of innovation. Pet rock and tomaguichi sold millions.

 

[Stuwil]

Innovation is not a measure of sales. It’s a measure of innovation. Pet rock and tomaguichi sold millions.

Exactly these other companies have to stand out from the crowd by introducing new technologies
Apple on the other hand don’t have to as much and that is why they don’t have to be as innovative

 

[I7guy]

Exactly these other companies have to stand out from the crowd by introducing new technologies
Apple on the other hand don’t have to as much and that is why they don’t have to be as innovative

But that doesn’t mean they were innovative. Exactly what new technologies did they introduce? Note your own benchmarking is “new technologies”.

 

[Stuwil]

But that doesn’t mean they were innovative. Exactly what new technologies did they introduce? Note your own benchmarking is “new technologies”.

The reason why these companies have to innovate more as they have to convince people to purchase their products
As they don’t have users that use language like they are the king of innovation
For example

 

[I7guy]

The reason why these companies have to innovate more as they have to convince people to purchase their products
As they don’t have users that use language like they are the king of innovation
For example

No they don’t have to innovate more and you also neglected to list the “new technologies” these companies introduced. Innovation is subject and a moving line in the sand. Most people don’t know innovation if it hits them in the head.

 

[Stuwil]

No they don’t have to innovate more and you also neglected to list the “new technologies” these companies introduced. Innovation is subject and a moving line in the sand. Most people don’t know innovation if it hits them in the head.

just think about it for a second
Yourself uses language like apple is the king of innovation so they are getting your money regardless.
Yet other companies like Samsung need to try new things to get people to buy their products
That’s the difference

 

[I7guy]

just think about it for a second
Yourself uses language like apple is the king of innovation so they are getting your money regardless.
Yet other companies like Samsung need to try new things to get people to buy their products
That’s the difference

Being objective Samsung sells cheap phones a market Apple doesn’t dabble in. That’s part of the reason for the number of handsets.

 

[Stuwil]

Being objective Samsung sells cheap phones a market Apple doesn’t dabble in. That’s part of the reason for the number of handsets.

I mean the higher values devices that companies provide not the cheaper ones.

And it’s the same with android regarding innovation compared with iOS

 

[maxoakland]

About giving users outside the EU that option. Satisfied and Siri are two words that start with the letter ‘S’ that you shouldn’t find in the same sentence.

What about the sentence "I'm not at all satisfied with my experience with Siri"? 😆

 

[WinstonSmyth]

Can’t these under regulated US Americans not just enjoy their ‘freedom’ and let European states determine what is best for their own citizens and markets?

Do many people in Europe have iPhones? I thought most bought cheaper Android phones. When I used to work out of my company office in France, almost no one had an iPhone. They thought it was too expensive and they had mostly cheaper Android phones. Seems all the taxes and regulations have made an impact on the wallet there.

 

[WinstonSmyth]

Can’t wait until the rest of the world clamps down on Apple like the EU has. I buy my device and should be able to install whatever I want on it. Consumer should win - the EU has that correct.

Ok, so translate that to an auto. If I buy a German made BMW, should I be able to use Ford or GM parts on it? It's my car, I am I stuck buying overpriced BMW parts.

 

[ToothBlueth]

Do many people in Europe have iPhones? I thought most bought cheaper Android phones. When I used to work out of my company office in France, almost no one had an iPhone. They thought it was too expensive and they had mostly cheaper Android phones. Seems all the taxes and regulations have made an impact on the wallet there.

Depends on the country, there is quite a difference between culture, income, ppp etc. France just under 30%, but Norway nearly hits 70%, and Lithuania 80%. In Eastern Europe (+Hungary) there are a couple of states hitting lower than 20%.

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[ToothBlueth]

Ok, so translate that to an auto. If I buy a German made BMW, should I be able to use Ford or GM parts on it? It's my car, I am I stuck buying overpriced BMW parts.

I don't think car manufacures make parts that would, say, fit headlights of a competing brand, but plenty of people fit third party parts on their car. The only thing that seems impossible with BMW is to install working blinkers

 

[WinstonSmyth]

The world contains people other than "you"

They may have different preferences.

I was just stating that Siri works well for me. I don't think I said that was the case for you or anyone else.

 

[WinstonSmyth]

I don't think car manufacures make parts that would, say, fit headlights of a competing brand, but plenty of people fit third party parts on their car. The only thing that seems impossible with BMW is to install working blinkers

So in the EU, do they regulate say the navigation systems in cars, so that if you owned a BMW and Mercedes, you could install the same navigation updates and software on both cars? That would seem to make sense and save a lot of money. BMW wants something like $300 for me to update the maps on my Z4.