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Apple Will Reportedly Let iPhone Users in the EU Switch Away From Siri

I’d really love to see what the perfect EU phone would look like. Is the EU not capable or willing to make the most perfect phone that remains perfectly compliant with each and every changing whim and dictate of the European Commission? Should be a very simple task for the Europeans with all of their advanced tech and big brains. Perhaps it’s just more cost effective (not to mention a massive revenue generator with their fines) to strong-arm and lob grenades at Apple. Besides, American companies are beneath them.
 
Ronald Reagan said:
I’d really love to see what the perfect EU phone would look like.
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One where the owner of the phone gets to use the device in a way that suits their preferences.

We choose our email clients, web browsers, how we like to pay, which Apps to communicate with..among so many preferences.

Choosing our preferred assistant and/or search provider, equally, makes a lot of sense.
 
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turbineseaplane said:
One where the owner of the phone gets to use the device in a way that suits their preferences.

We choose our email clients, web browsers, how we like to pay, which Apps to communicate with..among so many preferences.

Choosing our preferred assistant and/or search provider, equally, makes a lot of sense.
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In essence: a desktop computer in the form of a phone.
 
Europe gets all the good and important tish and Americans get two large companies fighting over the customers’ money while both sides claim moral outrage.

Good times.
 
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Stuwil said:
No it doesn’t because iOS is made by apple
And it’s on apple made devices
Android is made by google & it’s on multiple different devices made by different companies
So it’s not the same
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No they are trying to eliminate all differences at the operating system level such that windows == android == ios. By continual overregulation of ios, which ultimately will result in less innovation seen for the EU.
 
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Apple is planning to give users in the EU the ability to set a default voice assistant other than Siri, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman and Drake Bennett.

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In a lengthy report about Apple's artificial intelligence shortcomings today, Gurman and Bennett said Apple plans to introduce this change across multiple software platforms, which likely means the iPhone, iPad, and Mac at a minimum.

Presumably, this means that users in the EU will be able to set options like Amazon Alexa or Google Assistant as their default voice assistant on Apple devices.

Apple is working on this change in response to expanding EU regulations, the report said.

Apple already lets iPhone users in the EU set third-party apps as the default option for browsing and messaging, navigation, and much more.

Article Link: Apple Will Reportedly Let iPhone Users in the EU Switch Away From Siri
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Honestly it’s a real shame because Siri has so much potential if Apple would just get their act together.

But as of right now, I use Siri as you’d expect to set alarms, timers, check the time and sometimes if I’m feeling like a mad man will risk asking her to create a reminder or calendar event.

Then immediately realise I’m a loose cannon and then correct the inaccurate entry.

But yeah, if I had the option for Chat GPT to have Siri level access to my phone, I’d switch in a heartbeat.

We’ve had promises of improvements for too long and I feel like even if Siri 2.0 launches and is actually working, she’ll need to bring game changing features to win users back.

Otherwise we’re just gonna stick to the AIs that have always been useful and reliable.
 
I7guy said:
No they are trying to eliminate all differences at the operating system level such that windows == android == ios. By continual overregulation of ios, which ultimately will result in less innovation seen for the EU.
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remind me, how innovative is that dumb siri?:D since when allowing competition (in this case in voice assistants field) is anti innovative?
 
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ForkHandles said:
You don’t understand monopolies and their power.

Imagine if Apple and Google colluded to put a $10 per month user charge on their operating systems. Would you be powerless to refuse?

No, because monopolies are regulated in every country. The EU and USA would fine them until they bled and give way.

This is Same, Same but Different.
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Clearly you don't understand what a monopoly is and what it is not.

Here's a hint: Apple is not now nor has it ever been a monopoly.
 
Naraxus said:
"Expanding EU Regulations"

Translation: Yet another invented fine for US Companies, with Apple ofc being the primary target.

The EU is a ****ing joke.
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Smart observation: fines are indeed ‘invented’ as you put it. How else did you think they materialise? As for your observations of the E.U., well, many countries voluntarily working together for mutual benefit is a pretty damn good project. Some states find it increasingly difficult to stay united let alone work together with others to make life better for their citizens. But, like the EU, I won’t primarily target the US. However, I am thinking about that place just north of the Gulf of Mexico and south of the sovereign state of Canada.
 
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Naraxus said:
Clearly you don't understand what a monopoly is and what it is not.

Here's a hint: Apple is not now nor has it ever been a monopoly.
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That’s right. Companies cannot be monopolies, they’re just a legal structure, durrhhh!!

Apple hold a monopoly in the provision of smartphone operating systems. They are prevented, legally, in most territories, from exploiting that monopoly in order to break into new markets.

Eg if they decided to remove all other web browsers, music providers, book providers from iOS, they would be in breach.
 
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I7guy said:
No they are trying to eliminate all differences at the operating system level such that windows == android == ios. By continual overregulation of ios, which ultimately will result in less innovation seen for the EU.
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What innovation when you only have two choices in android and iOS in the west in mobile & according to some innovation is still getting achieved
 
Ronald Reagan said:
I’d really love to see what the perfect EU phone would look like. Is the EU not capable or willing to make the most perfect phone that remains perfectly compliant with each and every changing whim and dictate of the European Commission? Should be a very simple task for the Europeans with all of their advanced tech and big brains. Perhaps it’s just more cost effective (not to mention a massive revenue generator with their fines) to strong-arm and lob grenades at Apple. Besides, American companies are beneath them.
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You are missing the point.
This is nothing to do with having a “perfect phone”, but everything to do with having fair corporate practices.
 
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Naraxus said:
Clearly you don't understand what a monopoly is and what it is not.

Here's a hint: Apple is not now nor has it ever been a monopoly.
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You don’t have to be a Monopoly (in the full sense of the world) to implement and rely upon monopolistic practices, and Apple has done a lot of that.
 
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Wando64 said:
Both Microsoft and Apple were forced long ago to allow the use of alternative browsers as default on their OSs for personal computers.
It is about fair corporate practices allowing for fair competition.
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I agree :)

Phones should have been open from the start to encourage personal responsibility when it comes to computing. Adults teach these skills to their kids and they snowball. I know not everyone wants to 'build their own PC' but ask any IT technician and they'll say their most hair-pulling moments are when people can't solve what should be simple problems themselves.

Apple built the most successful computing platform in history with the iPhone but it did so by centralising the entire stack and at times infantilising their users. Every complaint we could level at the centralised platform is a deliberate design choice by Apple.

I'm not complaining about the following things not existing but they could have, for example kept the headphone jack and IP ratings or put in easily-removed batteries if they so wished but they did not. They could have found a way to safely integrate sideloading into iOS but they have deliberately left it out.
 
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Skyscraperfan said:
Sadly that is not the case with the ridiculous 30% fee on app purchases. That is one of those silent cartels. They did not meet and decide "Let's both take 30%!", but both of them decided not to undercut the other side, because they both want those 30%. So they eliminated competition and the EU just started to do something against that. That took a while.
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How the young forget.

When the App Store debuted, 30% was an amazing deal.​


Most software aggregators were charging developers 70%+ for distribution. 30% was amazing for them; particularly small shops. It meant that distribution beyond your own web site was affordable.

Now I agree they should have decreased their take, 10-15% seems fairer now. Apple should be leading the way and not being forced into decisions they don't agree with. The company culture has shifted from Think Different to "Gotta Catch Em All". Service quality has decreased as well.

I'm considerting a Huawei device with HarmonyOS if I can get one because if I'm going to get shafted by a company I would rather it's not
a) American
b) gaslighting me how customer friendly they are.
 
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Naraxus said:
"Expanding EU Regulations"

Translation: Yet another invented fine for US Companies, with Apple ofc being the primary target.

The EU is a ****ing joke.
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ah yes because the US didn't invent tariffs out of its ass for other countries. The US is a ****ing joke..
 
I7guy said:
Apple has been innovating for 18 years. Don’t know what android might be innovating.
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If you think that apple has been more innovative than android then you are mistaken by how android is setup
They have to innovate more
 
I7guy said:
The above is a completely subjective and arbitrary view. And if that’s your opinion I disagree. Apple is king at innovation.
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It’s impossible for apple to be a more innovative company than android
Or Huawei for example because these companies have to take more of a risk
Than apple
 
Naraxus said:
Clearly you don't understand what a monopoly is and what it is not.

Here's a hint: Apple is not now nor has it ever been a monopoly.
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They are not a monopoly in terms of android being their competitor
However on their platform they use
Anti competitor practices to give themselves an advantage over competitors on said platform
 
Stuwil said:
It’s impossible for apple to be a more innovative company than android
Or Huawei for example because these companies have to take more of a risk
Than apple
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It absolutely is possible. Apple has a huge ecosystem that has lots of moving parts. If you don’t agree that’s one thing. But defining which company is more innovative is purely subjective. Even when the experts do it.
 
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