If you go to the website for the settlement, the FAQ states they get roughly $27m.Whenever there is a class-action lawsuit, the lawyers that win the case should be required to divulge the amount of the payout that is going into their pockets.
If you go to the website for the settlement, the FAQ states they get roughly $27m.Whenever there is a class-action lawsuit, the lawyers that win the case should be required to divulge the amount of the payout that is going into their pockets.
It's all in the wording... had they simply said that, to begin with, they could have saved themselves $95 million dollars! Stupid is as stupid does! 😆
I soldered iPhones for years and I can guarantee there is no way to predict when failure is going to happen in many cases. Water damage is usually evident but it can happen on hidden parts under metal shields. Drop damage can leave completely invisible traces and make components weak but still functioning until another minor trauma or heating for regular intense usage.Sorry, but any refurb that likely uses a salvaged logic board or other component won't be as reliable as a new one. This is true physically and electronically. Issues like the iPhone X green lines and iPhone 7 audio IC are related to drops. Someone in a refurbishment facility would need to examine it using a high powered microscope. That simply isn't possible due to economics.
They do. It's all written as part of the settlement and available to the public.Whenever there is a class-action lawsuit, the lawyers that win the case should be required to divulge the amount of the payout that is going into their pockets.
They weren’t broken- You were holding it wrong.I've once had my iPhone 7 replaced 3 times under apple care and every time there was something with the phone. so no refurbeshed is not good as new.
nah they’ll continue doing the same **** cuz it cost them less hahaDoes this mean that they’ll begin providing new devices for repairs?
Yeah right ? We’re talking about a company that crossed the 12 zeros in terms of share worth ,and they only have to « fear » a mere 6 zeros amount ,lolToo bad it was only $95M. Apple gets off easy by settling. I'd like to see them go to trail and have a jury award closer to $1B or more. Of course, that's why Apple settles - they can screw over consumers with shady practices, and then pay a small settlement while raking in billions in savings from giving out used replacements.
But the original off-the-shelf phone had a problem that required it to be replaced. So how does it being “new” make it inherently better?I've once had my iPhone 7 replaced 3 times under apple care and every time there was something with the phone. so no refurbeshed is not good as new.
good old "i had problems, therefore they must be lying"I've once had my iPhone 7 replaced 3 times under apple care and every time there was something with the phone. so no refurbeshed is not good as new.
Because they smell different? Functional parts are functional parts.You should take your own advice. Apple doesn't say that at all. And that's why they had to settle.
Apple stated, they use "parts or products that are new or equivalent to new in performance and reliability." Refurb parts are definitely not equivalent to new.
Your going to hurt peoples brains making them think like that.But the original off-the-shelf phone had a problem that required it to be replaced. So how does it being “new” make it inherently better?
Roughly 1/3.Whenever there is a class-action lawsuit, the lawyers that win the case should be required to divulge the amount of the payout that is going into their pockets.
Similar: my iPad battery died, outside of warranty of course. Rather than replace the battery, the store graciously replaced the ENTIRE iPad for $129 or whatever, with a refurb. It lasted much longer than 24 hours but not that long - just long enough for them not to have to fix the “bad logic board” when it died.I don't agree that the refurbs you get as part of a repair are equivalent to new. If they're equivalent to new, why doesn't Apple give you a new device?
Anecdotal, but: earlier this year when I did a "battery replacement" for my iPad, they just gave me a replacement. The digitizer died within 24 hours. Tell me that unit wasn't returned for a faulty digitizer back when it was sold new, I dare ya!
That is a logical fallacy if ever there was one.I've once had my iPhone 7 replaced 3 times under apple care and every time there was something with the phone. so no refurbeshed is not good as new.
Likely getting a solid 33% or so of that settlement split between them.This must be because when my iPhone 5 speaker died a decade ago and they replaced it under warranty, I should have gotten a new replacement instead of a refurbished one.
To be honest I didn't care or notice at the time. The replacement phone worked great; hell it still works today (though the battery is expectedly shot). But I'll take my $14.45. The lawyers made off like bandits I'm sure.
Why settle? Because they did the math and it was ultimately less expensive that way compared to legal fees, salaries, studies, reports, etc.Had to laugh at that statement. Why settle for $95M if it isn't true? 😄
Sorry, but any refurb that likely uses a salvaged logic board or other component won't be as reliable as a new one. This is true physically and electronically. Issues like the iPhone X green lines and iPhone 7 audio IC are related to drops. Someone in a refurbishment facility would need to examine it using a high powered microscope. That simply isn't possible due to economics.
Because defending it requires a lot more than just lawyers. There are lots of other salaries, studies, reports, experts, etc, that cost money - directly and indirectly (opportunity costs - if they are working on a defense, they are not working on something of value - and so on. Plus, you have potential jurors who will be biased by anecdotal evidence as I have seen on display several times already in the comments.Why would a jury award anything if Apple had the technical evidence to defend it? Apple has a $1B annual legal budget for some of the best lawyers.
$100M is nothing for Apple. They literally paid Jony Ive $100M for doing nothing after he left Apple except for PR.
Which trail would you like to see them on? Oregon?Too bad it was only $95M. Apple gets off easy by settling. I'd like to see them go to trail and have a jury award closer to $1B or more. Of course, that's why Apple settles - they can screw over consumers with shady practices, and then pay a small settlement while raking in billions in savings from giving out used replacements.
Do you know how refurbishment works?I don't agree that the refurbs you get as part of a repair are equivalent to new. If they're equivalent to new, why doesn't Apple give you a new device?
Anecdotal, but: earlier this year when I did a "battery replacement" for my iPad, they just gave me a replacement. The digitizer died within 24 hours. Tell me that unit wasn't returned for a faulty digitizer back when it was sold new, I dare ya!