You sir are a reactionary without logic or fact.That doesn't excuse Apple's scumbag actions.
You sir are a reactionary without logic or fact.That doesn't excuse Apple's scumbag actions.
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China and the EU ( if not already ) are not far from being larger economies than the USA.
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Doesn’t Apple charge GST in New Zealand when you purchase a product?
GST and alike is payed by you, not Apple.
Bull$h!t.
Please explain how Howard Hughes become so rich paying 70%-90% in taxes.
96% of the worlds population lives outside of the USA.
China and the EU ( if not already ) are not far from being larger economies than the USA.
If the USA wants to be really really stupid, start a trade war, because the USA WILL loose.... bigly.
The USA is NOT the greatest country on earth, not the most free, or any other metric apart from military spending, and prisoner numbers, every other metric the US is barely in the top 10.
A trade war will put at risk over US$2 Trillion in exports and tens of millions of jobs. And its more than likely the trade currency will become the Euro, not the US$.
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Aside from the fact that most of the things listed in his analogy aren't even paid for by Federal Income Taxes (County property taxes and local funds do)...
Apple should pay what is due, like any other corporation.
So until they win the appeal, they still have to comply with the original order. Come on, keep up...What....But but ... so many here told me apple owes nothing .... this must be fake news !!
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Yeah.... those roads, infrastructure, schools , hospitals blah blah .... build themselves![]()
Wow, you are very misinformed about taxation and public funding. Everything in his analogy is partly paid for through Federal income taxes. For instance, roads were suppose to be paid for through the National Highway Trust Fund - that is funded by gasoline taxes. But, they don't cover all of the spending so the deficit has been paid through the general fund (i.e. Federal income taxes). Similar Federal funding mechanisms exist for schools and hospitals too.
What....But but ... so many here told me apple owes nothing .... this must be fake news !!
Apple is not “paying the taxes”. It is going into an escrow account until the appeal process is completed.
Apple pays just £12m UK tax on £2bn profit: Miserly bill is almost £400million short of the figure tech giant should have paid [full stop]
Don't be so condescending. Especially when wrong. The Federal Government gives money to states yes, for certain things. They help with Interstate highways for example (which many years ago was the leverage they used to force a nationwide speed limit on us... no speed limit, no money). But the vast majority of those things are paid for locally. I live in Washington State, and don't you dare try to tell me the federal government pays for my local roads. And don't you dare try to tell me the Federal Government pays for local schools, etc. Absolutely not. I would recommend that you look at your local property tax bills, and see a list of the things that they fund. If you can show me a single bill that does not pay for roads, hospitals, schools, etc. I will drop dead of a heart attack.
and people wonder why business is flocking towards china
lol. Doubling down is a thing now. You're free to be delusional. I don't mind.
An interesting thing put out by Washington State. Funny how many of the funding sources for Washington State transportation are federal in origin.
And like any of us, Apple has the right to negotiate with the taxing authority. If that TA then agrees to a lessor value that is paid, who has the right to say otherwise? In this case a 3rd party organization is telling a sovereign state (Ireland) that they cannot negotiate and accept a tax plan.
Agree with Ireland/Apple... disagree with them... it shouldn't matter. Ireland *should* have the authority to deal with levied taxes as they see fit.
You are just being ridiculous. Obviously the Federal Government has programs to help States in various things. A lot of those programs were put in place to try to spur economic recovery (read about the New Deal... Roosevelt... put in place during the Great Depression to try to help recovery, as a big example of this), or the discussions that took place when these more recent programs were put in place. And obviously States choose to have programs to help out counties and cities. But to suggest its their responsibility to build and maintain local roads and schools and hospitals is absurd.
I don't have time to find you a better article, but read this:
http://positivearticles.com/blog/3274/where-does-the-property-tax-money-go/
It briefly outlines some of the things that property tax (which as i mentioned before, is County's primary source of revenue) goes to fund. Schools, roads, emergency services (hospitals, fire departments, etc) receive the majority of property tax dollars.
Tell you what... why don't you go to your next county board meeting, where they discuss the budget (since clearly you have never been to one).. and when they are discussing the budget and expenditures on schools and roads, you can raise your hand and stand up and point out to them that they should not discuss that, because the Federal Government pays for all those things. I would soooo love to be there when that happened.
Small correction, but really part of a larger point. The government is us and everything is our responsibility.
I will accept your friendly amendment to my motion, and call for a second.
Relax internet hyperbole man. I think you quoted my post by accident since nothing you say has anything to do with what I said. Trade wars...what are you talking about????
It’s risky business when you agree to terms and some other party jumps in and declares those terms unacceptable. Apple agreed to something with Ireland but now it’s broken. Other companies will know that the EU is someplace where that can happen.
The US is number 1 is having internet trolls go apoplectic about it into stream of conscious nonsense. And we are current World War champions 3 wars running...so hey there we go.
Obtuse (un-intentional or purposeful?). Nobody ever said the Federal Government funds 100% of those things. But, it was you that denied that the Federal Government paid for any of it.
I never said they don't pay for anything. I made a good natured post (hence the grinning face) that pointed out that the Federal Government has little to do with all of the things listed in that original post. You then felt the need for some reason to be very condescending to me.
The fact remains that the majority of funding for all of those things is local. Sure, someone can post a link to a government website showing that the Federal Government has an educational grant program... but does that mean they build and maintain local elementary, middle, or high schools? Sure, someone can point to some federal programs that offer funding for specific health initiatives, but does that mean the federal government is in the business of building local hospitals? Or maintaining or operating them? Sure, you pointed to an article showing a Federal program to help with a few specific highway programs.... but does that mean the Federal Government builds and maintains local roads.
See chart below. Of 4.12 million miles, the Federal Government is responsible for roughly 3%... just 3%! And this principally Interstate highways, and parks, etc.
So... between your assertion that the Federal Government pays for roads, and my assertion that local governments do.. I'll stand by mine.
But if you want to have a decent discussion in the future... try to not start out each post by being so condescending. Even in situations where you could be correct in a debate, you won't persuade anyone to your link of thinking if you completely insult them at the go.
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But they are not , check your factsYeah--Good thing Apple is the largest taxpayer in the United States of America. Good thing Apple is the largest taxpayer in the world.
ehhh, no. They agreed to implement laws, that in return gives them access to the single market (the construct that allows Apple to tax profit from Europe in Ireland in the first place). One of them is "no special taxing" as it is state aid.
However, Ireland is not part of the USA and has NEVER been part of the USA.
Ireland is outside the jurisdiction of US laws and tax systems.
HOWEVER, the advantages of state run schools is that they in effect help level the social imbalance. By having counties run schools, wealthy counties are able to fun schools to a higher level than poor counties, likewise everything else funded by counties suffers from the same imbalance. State run schools have a financial model that offers greater funding to poorer areas improving the educational outcomes for lower socioeconomic groups thus bettering the whole economy.
I will stick with state run services, they are cheaper over all, it considers all citizens as being equal and entitled to the same level of assistance irrespective of wealth (you don't get more voltes because you are wealthy, its one man, one vote)
The US seems to have the policy everyone is equal, some are just more equal than others.