Apple Wins Injunction Blocking Sale of Galaxy Tab 10.1 in Australia

[KnightWRX]

What Apple products does Samsung have a hand in making?

FTTFY. Let's see. All of them.

Macbooks, iPads, iPhones, iPods... name it, it has Samsung semi-conductors in it.

Not theft? Lol. You have to go no further than Samsungs rip of Apple's packaging, and their knock off on the smart covers ...

All of which are either trade dress, trademark or patent infringement (except the smart covers, those aren't made by Samsung, thus not at issue in this discussion).

Infringement of IP is not theft. For theft to occur, the original party must be deprived of their property, something that IP infringement does not cause. Samsung or Apple or IBM or Novell or Microsoft using a bit of IP that belongs to another company does not prevent nor deprive said company from using that same bit of IP.

Maybe some of that research you're proposing would do some good here. Might want to actually understand the issues at stake here so we can have an intelligent discussion.

BTW, this is not about packaing, cases, covers or any other visual cues or IP. This is about touchscreens and gestures, and until we know the patents, we cannot know exactly what the Australian judge finds that was infringed. Don't forget the Dutch ruling where a single patent was found in infringement and the ban will be lifted since Samsung fixed the issue now.

 

[yg17]

What Apple products does Samsung make?

Apple uses Samsung components in many of their products. Good luck boycotting them

Not to mention that if you buy a TV made by Sony, LG or another non-Samsung manufacturer, chances are, the LCD panel in it is made by Samsung. Good luck with that boycott. Might as well throw your worldy possessions away and go live on a deserted island if you want to boycott Samsung. But you'll have to swim there because I bet they make some of the components in many boats and ships.

Not theft? Lol. You have to go no further than Samsungs rip of Apple's packaging,

A box, with the picture of a product on it! How original! You know what, Apple should sue Kellog too. Because I had Fruit Loops this morning and there was a picture of Fruit Loops on the box. Those thieving bastards!

and their knock off on the smart covers ...

The smart covers weren't made by Samsung. Try again.

On the products themselves, I'm so incorrect and ignorant am I? Yet the courts are ruling in favor of Apple. Do your research before you blindly slam my posts.

Courts have never been wrong, have they?

Your points are mute, already disproven, but yet you spend much of your time is spent here trolling in Samsungs favor. Why?

No, I believe your points are disproven. Pointing out the facts is not trolling.

Surely there's a Samsung forum out there for those of you so in love with knock off products.

No, it's much more fun to stay here and disprove all of the lies posted by people like you.

 

[Leaping Tortois]

BTW, this is not about packaing, cases, covers or any other visual cues or IP. This is about touchscreens and gestures, and until we know the patents, we cannot know exactly what the Australian judge finds that was infringed. Don't forget the Dutch ruling where a single patent was found in infringement and the ban will be lifted since Samsung fixed the issue now.

I could agree with this. I posted those images because people keep circulating a different set of images to prove their point, these images prove mine and so images in themselves are useless when dealing with 'look and feel' patents (the validity of such patents in my opinion is in question).

Australian judges tend to jump between awesome and *******s (I'm an Australian, I'm allowed to make such generalisations). On the one hand we awesomeness, such as judges ruling the Internet Service Providers are NOT responsible for enforcing the film industries copyrights, and preventing a young girl from leaving the country to stop her parents putting her into an arranged marriage... on the other hand there's been a couple of weird decisions. If this patent decision is in regards to decent patents, then I'd have no choice but to accept their decision (I'll have to accept it anyways, but you get my meaning), but if they're banned for something as stupid as in Europe, with the photo switching gestures, then I'd be greatly annoyed....

 

[radiohed]

I have to say that as much as I love Apple products and use them, there is a need to have other choices. I bought an iPad when the first gen was just released and it is a great device. I was playing around with other tablets at BB and it took awhile for anything really decent to come out. The Galaxy 10.1 was the first tablet that really impressed me. Android is a viable competitor and Apple knows it.

After trying out a couple of 7" tablets in the store, I realized that the form factor was ideal for a lot of what I need. Apple pretty much made it clear that they had no intentions of making a smaller tablet so I decided to give a 7" android a try. I like the smaller size a lot and it's an area that Apple isn't competing in at this time. When the HTC Flyer was dropped down to $299 at BB, I nabbed one. It is the same price as a 32gb touch but more enjoyable to use for reading, surfing, etc. If this size tablet takes off, I wonder if Apple will decide that they want that market as well?

The competition is starting to get fierce so Apple is pulling out all the stops. They make great products, but the arrogance has gotten to be a bit much.

 

[adder7712]

Image

http://gizmodo.com/5822404/samsung-...fs-for-their-ipad-tablet-knock+offs/gallery/1

This?

Does the Tab have the magnets like the iPad 2?

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Proud to boycott ALL products made by Samsung.

The company is a master at stealing and copying the hard work of others. They sit, wait, see what's hot and knock it off.

Phones, tablets, fridges, stoves, washer, dryers they rip it all. Do your research, take a look around ... Samsung is run by no good thieving bastards.

And duh, copying a product is NOT competetion. Those who can't - steal.

Anyone who supports that is part of the problem too.

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You support theft?

You're ignorant.

Sad.

That's a bit too far.

I have a Samsung Galaxy S Plus on my hands and apart from the app drawer, it feels nothing like iOS...

 

[chagla]

Image

http://gizmodo.com/5822404/samsung-...fs-for-their-ipad-tablet-knock+offs/gallery/1

This?

you must have missed this one:

http://blog.gsmarena.com/apple-smart-cover-busted-seems-like-a-copy-of-someone-else’s-idea/

 

[JHankwitz]

I'm glad I don't live in Australia. Not that I want a tablet, but it's always nice to have options and fair competition.

Selling copies of another's product is not fair competition.

 

[Oletros]

Selling copies of another's product is not fair competition.

Which copies?

 

[linkgx1]

Apple better be careful before they screw themselves out of a wireless patent.

 

[G4er?]

Certain things are going to have basic designs. The basic designs that define a class of product should not be protected.

If the same legal atmosphere existed 100-150 years ago what would the world look like?

One brand of car. "Our car has an engine and four wheels. You can't sell something that has the same thing.

How about one brand of ice cream?
One brand of shoes?
One brand of clothes?
One brand of deodorant?

 

[JHankwitz]

It's stuff like this that has stopped me from buying Apple products.

When I bought my Powerbook G3 Apple used to be a good professional brand.

Now they're just a company that sells overpriced consumer stuff to fanboys and people who spend too much money on computers.

I wish the old apple would come back.

The old Apple was overpriced. I paid $10,500 for my 512K Apple III with a 12" yellow-screen monitor and 5MB hard drive. Current Apple proces are fair considering their equipment "just works". I.T. needs to fix my PC at work nearly daily to keep it going.

 

[KnightWRX]

I.T. needs to fix my PC at work nearly daily to keep it going.

No, we don't. Stop breaking stuff on it.

 

[Oletros]

I.T. needs to fix my PC at work nearly daily to keep it going.

When people make those exagerated affirmations loses all credibility their arguments had

 

[*LTD*]

In a statement, Samsung Electronics said it was disappointed with the ruling and would be seeking legal advice on its options.

What has Samsung been doing up until now?

Time for a legal dept "reset", Sammy. Kinda like what you did with the first Galaxy Tab.

 

[allmIne]

The one that doesn't research is not him

Indeed. I genuinely believe entatlrg is the most blindly ignorant Macrumors forum user I've come across. As I say, that's my genuine belief, not mere puff.

 

[HowieR32]

Here here.

I wish apple would go back to making good COMPUTERS. I miss the days before the ipod obsession.

Yeah, me too... I reckon the new MacBook range sucks. I mean, why can't they go back to building G4s / PowerBooks? Never mind, the new Macs are soo crap they're only growing in the market by a paltry 21.5%

You know, I have spare parts bin filled with old mac computers, want to buy them off my hands?

 

[Will do good]

Fair enough. I'd like to add that I'm not some Samsung fanboy, I'd just prefer if all products were allowed to sell rather than being banned. If Apple's devices are as good as they say, they should need to seek injunctions.

Would you feel the same way if you send years and millions on R&D than have someone come in and COPY your product. Would you call that fair business.

 

[yg17]

Would you feel the same way if you send years and millions on R&D than have someone come in and COPY your product. Would you call that fair business.

Except Samsung didn't copy Apple's product. Anyone who's spent more than 30 seconds playing with an iPad and Galaxy Tab would know that.

 

[HowieR32]

The smart covers weren't made by Samsung. Try again.

So we try again: http://9to5mac.com/2011/07/18/family-ties-earn-this-smart-cover-knock-off-a-samsung-certification-and-a-place-on-their-store-shelves/

Sang-yong Kim, the Anymode CEO, is nephew of the Samsung’s chairman Kun-Hee Lee, who stepped down in April 2008 amid the Slush funds scandal, but returned at the group’s helm in March of last year.

Asians are notorious for maintaining business links within their family circles; hardly surprises me since I'm also one.

 

[Ries]

Samsung should spin it, Galaxy Tab 10.1, so good apple doesn't want you to have it!

 

[HowieR32]

Except Samsung didn't copy Apple's product. Anyone who's spent more than 30 seconds playing with an iPad and Galaxy Tab would know that.

Ah... but a moot point now since we'll never get our hands on one in Aussie land LOL

 

[yg17]

So we try again: http://9to5mac.com/2011/07/18/famil...ification-and-a-place-on-their-store-shelves/

Sang-yong Kim, the Anymode CEO, is nephew of the Samsung’s chairman Kun-Hee Lee, who stepped down in April 2008 amid the Slush funds scandal, but returned at the group’s helm in March of last year.

Asians are notorious for maintaining business links within their family circles; hardly surprises me since I'm also one.

They still weren't made by Samsung. Nephew? Big deal. I don't even talk to a couple of my aunts. What I do as their nephew has no bearing on them.

 

[TMay]

Earth. And you?

Make an app or edit a movie from an iPad to the quality one could achieve on a computer and then I'll accept your point.

Maybe its just me, but I could make a case that a well scripted, acted and directed film created on an iPhone(s) and edited on an iPad would in total be a better film than some of the features that the industry heavily postprocesses on PC's and workstations.

Your point is taken in its context, all else being equal, but too many times, all else isn't equal.

There have been and will continue to be great films created with simple tools, like iPhones and iPads.

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Wow... Apple is playing so dirty. Using an injunction to deliberately delay the Galaxy so they can't sell during the holiday season. So dirty. All the people who can't see why its dirty need to realize that an initial injunction is easy to get. All it takes is enough proof that the allegation could, not that it is, be true. Then while Samsung is fighting Apple in court which will take months if not longer, the injunction will stay in place, crippling Samsung, because gadgets have very short shelf-lives. Even if Samsung wins the case later down the line, the damage will already be done.


Are you serious?

You are aware that if Apple loses, there would then have to be a judgement of damages assessed that apple would have to pay, including all legal fees of Samsung?

 

[voonyx]

wow the armchair patent lawyers who reside here were wrong again...shocker...

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So apple is the bad guy right ?

If that's true why are all these countries banning the sale ?

Is apple paying their government off ?

Maybe there's actually something to this that some here don't understand.

umm...clearly apple has brainwashed the courts....cuz that's what apple does. they brainwash people.

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Ah, so you agree that Samsung didn't ripped off anything from Apple., Glad to see that

Horrible extrapolation.

 

[TMay]

Apple got a patent for a minimalistic tablet design, just a rectangle with screen in the middle, without the home button. It was deemed different enough for a patent. So they do hold a patent. But they should not, because its just minimal and not innovative. Again, let me repeat that patent laws are there to protect innovation and creativity. Nothing innovative, and creative, about a rectangle.

Funny that, but Apple happened to ship a minimalist design that created a pivot in the tablet market so radical that every other manufacturer had to go back to the drawing board, and in Samsung's case, the result was quite a bit too close the the iPad, hence the Trade Dress injunction in Germany.