Apple Wins One-Week Extension of Galaxy Tab Sales Ban in Australia

[aerok]

When Samsung makes a video mocking iPhone users it's called funny. When I criticise Android I'm being an ass. :roll eyes:

What I said was actually funny and true. I know plenty of Android users and they can dish out and take criticism. Unlike the fandroids here.

Again with the fandroid, who is the fandroid here? The poster who left one comment 6 pages ago?

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Hahaha... yeah, sure it does.
Criticizing a competing product makes me a hater?

When the criticism is invalid or becomes a silly repetition of problems listed on the internet, yes

They bitch to the press instead of lobbying for change. What is the press going to do? Don't like the laws? Lobby to change the laws or ****.

So you want a corporation to lobby to change the laws? Smart...

Who is arguing that there weren't tablets before the iPad? Go back and read the entire thread. I've stated before that I think they sucked. Did you ever try one? They sucked because they sucked. If Apple would have branded one of those I would be saying the same thing.

They suck by your standards yes, I quite enjoyed the tablets before the iPad, the experience was just different.

Apple branded tablet: Newton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton_(platform)#Hardware_models

And how does that prove I am a fanboy or a hater? I like to ridicule Android because it's fun. When my friends have to reboot their phone by pulling the battery out I laugh. When my friends have to swap to a new ROM or restore to the stock ROM I laugh.

I laugh because it's funny. Typos make me laugh too.

It is common fanboy/hater behavior to make fun of the biggest competitor. And that is exactly what haters do, ridicule one thing that is being quite successful.

 

[PlipPlop]

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It was? That was out in 2003. (Thats a tablet with a keyboard cover, running on 8-16h battery life. Thing on the right? Trackpad).

Don't like the buttons on the rim? Here you go: Electrovaya Scribbler.

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Not in your taste? How about this:
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As for the name? Yeah, they called it that... not sure when they switched over, but it was apparently called that in 2005.

Not sure when name switched. This model was known as the Sahara i213 (2003-2004 or so).

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(sitting in a funky dock.)

Prefer black?


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and.. yeah, if you want to spice things up... plenty of colorful bumpers to choose from.

Cool thanks for that, more evidence that Apple just steal other peoples ideas. Thanks.

 

[Oletros]

Cool thanks for that, more evidence that Apple just steal other peoples ideas. Thanks.

Apple has not stolen anything regarding the design of the iPad

 

[divinox]

Cool thanks for that, more evidence that Apple just steal other peoples ideas. Thanks.

"build" on is a far more appropriate term. then again, as its always "steal" when its the other way around, the use still has some form of point.

 

[Hulk12]

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Apple also had the idea of strong and scratch resistant glass on iPhone, and they come up with Corning's prototype which works fine and finally imitated by your beloved Samsung and of course many other brands. Corning is the inventor, but Apple is the innovator.

By your logic apple will be imitating samsung and motorola since they used 4G LTE first lol. (both companies hold patents in LTE technology that were developed in house, not bought like apple)

/facepalm

Doesn't matter since they bought them it means they own them so apple also has patents on 4G tech also

 

[Hulk12]

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Sorry...not. I come to a site to further a joyful passion. It seems others come to hate and spew vitriol. I hate Samsung. I don't go to Samsung sites...don't even know where they are or if they exist. I don't go around to every that owns a Samsung that I know and say what fools they are for buying from such a dishonest company. I don't even do that for the thieves at Google. And I certainly don't misinterpret another's post and then respond with a non-sequitor like "Pot. Kettle"

Why do you hate Samsung, they supply lots of parts for your precious iphone. Dont hurt the hand which feeds you.

What you talking about Apple buys the parts needed to make the phone if anything it should be the other way around cause Apple is Samsung's customer

 

[divinox]

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Doesn't matter since they bought them it means they own them so apple also has patents on 4G tech also

Your analogy is both halting and incorrect. First, by that logic others have bought multi-touch screens etc., and thus have patents too. Second, buying a product is not buying IP, but the right to use said IP for a specific purpose delimited by the product itself. Third, regardless of right to use IP, you are still imitating if you do something someone else is currently doing.

 

[Hulk12]

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Never understood why people keep posting this. All it proves is that MR was once an Apple friendly website. Too bad it isn't anymore.

When was that? Cuz the articles i posted are from nearly 6 years ago.

But I'll tell you when the Apple community was friendly:

It was before the iPod took the digital audio player industry and dropped a massive turd on it. Ever since, Apple's success has been a breeding ground for the zealots. I complained back then about this phenomena and I called it *dead on*. Hell, I even made some projects for my graphic design classes in college mocking the sheep-like mindset of the public. It didnt matter if there were superior products, it only mattered that apple's pretty logo was on a device for people to sport. And the same mentality happens today with the iPhone. The general public doesnt know better. Theyve been fooled with apple's great and overwhelming advertising, so much so that joe schmoe off the street has no clue what android is, or windows phone, or symbian, or BB OS, or anything else, to them its just 'yeah, iPhone! everyone has one, it must be good!'

If at any point someone points out the flaws in iPhone (which there are many) and the benefits of Android, they are quickly denied. But vice versa, they are IMMEDIATELY glorified.

Rational thinking and logical criticisms have NO place in the mind of a brainwashed drone that is in love with a LOGO.

Of course you know both operating systems have flaws. Like how droid adverts always say that iOS devices have no flash which for them is a flaw and the all of a sudden adobe axes development on mobile flash, now there's no more flaw cause there's no more flash on either platform so it's a level playing field so no more mocking iOS devices. And but every time I read about viruses or spyware is see more android references than iOS. People buy what their more comfortable with and a lot of people buy iPhones because that's their preference same as for android

 

[duffman9000]

Way to miss the point. My point was that sales were relative in (at least) two dimensions. Relative, yes. That is the exact opposite of trying to equate sales of X with sales of Y.

You were trying to compare sales of planes to cars. Incomprehensible? Yes.

Beats me. Completely besides the point. You claim that people want X but can't afford it. If that is a valid logic, so is the claim that people want Y but can't afford it. Either sales are absolutely indicative, or they are not. You can't have it both ways, cherry-picking logics as you see fit.

I claim that people want X (MacBooks), but they are out of their price range. I'm buying a laptop for my niece this Christmas. I can't buy her a Macbook because it's out of my price range (for her). Can I afford it? Yes I can. Understand now? Not everyone wants to spend near a thousand dollars on a laptop. Would they ilke a Mac? Yes, but they are out of their price range.

iPads were panned by critics, and criticism was well deserved. Irrelevance-ness aside, what is your point? That tablets were not for all? No surprise there, really.

iPads were initially panned by critics, but unlike tablets, iPads sold well. Extremely well.
Tablets were panned by critics for years and sold poorly. Critics are waiting for Win8 to proclaim for the nth time the year of the tablet.

Im not picking metrics, I'm going with whatever metrics you apply. You stated that Apple computers were to expensive. That was the (sole, stated) explanation for Apple relatively poor sales (v. MSFT). Feel free to use more metrics if you see fit. Just make sure you apply them in a stringent fashion.

Where did I say that Apple computers are too expensive? Product X being out of a person's price range doesn't necessarily mean that the person can't afford the product.

No, i am really not. You, on the other hand, are. Me? I'm merely cleaning up the incomprehensible, incoherent mess you leave behind as you try to jump position and move the goal.

Moving goalposts? Hardly. Keep trying to change subjects. It makes me laugh.

 

[divinox]

You were trying to compare sales of planes to cars. Incomprehensible? Yes.

Starting to wonder if you are trolling; no, for the second time, i tried to show how and why sales are relative - a claim you refuted. Are you still refuting this obvious fact?

I claim that people want X (MacBooks), but they are out of their price range. I'm buying a laptop for my niece this Christmas. I can't buy her a Macbook because it's out of my price range (for her). Can I afford it? Yes I can. Understand now? Not everyone wants to spend near a thousand dollars on a laptop. Would they ilke a Mac? Yes, but they are out of their price range.

Similarly, early age tablets were too - after all, they were considerably more expensive than MacBooks are today, and many times more so than modern day tablets are. Ergo, sales are not conclusively indicative of wanted-ness of a product. Hence, "did it sell" is an irrelevant question.

iPads were initially panned by critics, but unlike tablets, iPads sold well. Extremely well. Tablets were panned by critics for years and sold poorly. Critics are waiting for Win8 to proclaim for the nth time the year of the tablet.

Something i have not disputed. However, one has to take into equation e.g. added portability and severely reduced costs when comparing these products with tablets anno 2003.

Where did I say that Apple computers are too expensive? Product X being out of a person's price range doesn't necessarily mean that the person can't afford the product.

I can afford diamonds, i still find them expensive; similarly, i can afford to fill my home with Apple products, but find it far too expensive to do so. Further, whats up with swinging this into a semantic discussion? Lets get back to the original point, shall we?

Moving goalposts? Hardly. Keep trying to change subjects. It makes me laugh.

"No you!". Yeah... ok. Everyone with one eye and half a brain can see what is going on here.

 

[duffman9000]

Again with the fandroid, who is the fandroid here? The poster who left one comment 6 pages ago?

If you think that applies to you then... well who am I to dispute that.

When the criticism is invalid or becomes a silly repetition of problems listed on the internet, yes

Concerning Android phones? I don't have to list problems found on the internet. I can discuss this with friends that actually own Android phones and list real, funny problems. Here is another well-known funny issue that until ICS was found on most Android phones: a UI that is not fully hardware accelerated. ICS will finally fix this on recent Android phones. A user won't have to depend on an OEM to provide something that should have been provided by the OS.

My buddies and I can look back and laugh that we could reboot our phones and then test our experiences. Arguments went like this:
Me: Why does your phone lag while just browsing your apps?
Buddy: Why do I have to use iTunes to add music to my phone?

Me: Your phone doesn't have pinch to zoom?
Buddy: Not yet. Use the button to increase the font.
Me: Why was that operation choppy? Something wrong with your phone?
Buddy: Shuddup.

Buddy: Your phone doesn't have flash.
Me: My phone doesn't have flash!
(Both laugh).

The criticism I posted wasn't invalid years ago. The criticism I posted about swapping/restoring ROMs? Still valid.

So you want a corporation to lobby to change the laws? Smart...

Corporations lobby for change all the time. That doesn't mean some good can't come of it. Lets see Google put their informal "Don't be evil" corporate motto to the test.

They suck by your standards yes, I quite enjoyed the tablets before the iPad, the experience was just different.

Apple branded tablet: Newton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton_(platform)#Hardware_models

Apparently enough people agreed with me that tablets have not sold well. 2012 will finally (supposedly) be the year of the tablet, but similar statements have been made for years.

It is common fanboy/hater behavior to make fun of the biggest competitor. And that is exactly what haters do, ridicule one thing that is being quite successful.

I make fun of Android, whenever possible, because it's funny. Lacking a hardware accelerated UI on most phones? Extremely funny. Samsung providing a better experience steals my thunder, but good for them and Android users.

But yeah, that sure makes me a hater. :roll eyes:

How about I criticize iOS 4 running on a 3G? Would that be reverse hating?

 

[divinox]

If you think that applies to you then... well who am I to dispute that.



Concerning Android phones? I don't have to list problems found on the internet. I can discuss this with friends that actually own Android phones and list real, funny problems. Here is another well-known funny issue that until ICS was found on most Android phones: a UI that is not fully hardware accelerated. ICS will finally fix this on recent Android phones. A user won't have to depend on an OEM to provide something that should have been provided by the OS.

My buddies and I can look back and laugh that we could reboot our phones and then test our experiences. Arguments went like this:
Me: Why does your phone lag while just browsing your apps?
Buddy: Why do I have to use iTunes to add music to my phone?

Me: Your phone doesn't have pinch to zoom?
Buddy: Not yet. Use the button to increase the font.
Me: Why was that operation choppy? Something wrong with your phone?
Buddy: Shuddup.

Buddy: Your phone doesn't have flash.
Me: My phone doesn't have flash!
(Both laugh).

The criticism I posted wasn't invalid years ago. The criticism I posted about swapping/restoring ROMs? Still valid.




Corporations lobby for change all the time. That doesn't mean some good can't come of it. Lets see Google put their informal "Don't be evil" corporate motto to the test.



Apparently enough people agreed with me that tablets have not sold well. 2012 will finally (supposedly) be the year of the tablet, but similar statements have been made for years.




I make fun of Android, whenever possible, because it's funny. Lacking a hardware accelerated UI on most phones? Extremely funny. Samsung providing a better experience steals my thunder, but good for them and Android users.

But yeah, that sure makes me a hater. :roll eyes:

How about I criticize iOS 4 running on a 3G? Would that be reverse hating?

Speaking of 2012. That was Bill Gates projection, made back in 2007 - sitting next to Jobs at AllThingsD. Wouldn't surprise me if he got it right either. If MSFT can't do it, someone else will...

 

[aerok]

If you think that applies to you then... well who am I to dispute that.

English must not be your first language, I refuse to own an Android for other reasons, the same reason I do not own an iPhone.

Concerning Android phones? I don't have to list problems found on the internet. I can discuss this with friends that actually own Android phones and list real, funny problems. Here is another well-known funny issue that until ICS was found on most Android phones: a UI that is not fully hardware accelerated. ICS will finally fix this on recent Android phones. A user won't have to depend on an OEM to provide something that should have been provided by the OS.

My buddies and I can look back and laugh that we could reboot our phones and then test our experiences. Arguments went like this:
Me: Why does your phone lag while just browsing your apps?
Buddy: Why do I have to use iTunes to add music to my phone?

Me: Your phone doesn't have pinch to zoom?
Buddy: Not yet. Use the button to increase the font.
Me: Why was that operation choppy? Something wrong with your phone?
Buddy: Shuddup.

Buddy: Your phone doesn't have flash.
Me: My phone doesn't have flash!
(Both laugh).

The criticism I posted wasn't invalid years ago. The criticism I posted about swapping/restoring ROMs? Still valid.

So what if it's not hardware accelerated, it does not affect the functionality. Swapping rom? It's a choice, the stock rom is good enough for most people, it is not a necessity to flash.

Oh I can imagine you going after an Android user on the street:
HAHAHAHA You're funny because your phone is not hardware accelerated!!!!!

...it looks pathetic because it is

How about I criticize iOS 4 running on a 3G? Would that be reverse hating?

Wow that might be a change from the plenty other things you say about anything else but Apple.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

And as called out early on by many Apple would lose this one.
http://www.zdnet.com.au/samsung-wins-galaxy-tab-to-go-on-sale-339327676.htm

Apple was ordered to pay all of Samsung's court and legal fees.

I honestly hope that there was some type of bond that Apple had to put up for the injunction that goes to Samsung.

 

[wonderspark]

Wow, that should really turn up some heat on the fight. I hope this is the beginning of the end of this crazy battle.

 

[chagla]

whoa, things aren't going in apple's way lately.

Apple loses tablet case against small Spanish firm

Australian High Court just says no to Apple appeal, Samsung breathes a sigh of relief

Motorola wins injunction against Apple Sales International in German patent dispute

Chinese court rejects Apple's claim to the iPad name, faces potential sale ban

interesting developments.