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So confusing, why that feature was just disabled and remains so, for so long now… 😵‍💫
Because Apple allegedly infringed Masimo's patent on blood oxygen monitoring. This was just the countersuit.

Disabled in the US only.
 
I'm not a lawyer, so, what does this mean regarding the O2 sensor on future Apple Watches sold in the US moving forward? Is there a good chance that the feature will be re-enabled in the future as a result of this verdict?
Ask Apple. Apple countersued and apparently refuses to negotiate a deal with Masimo.
 
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But but IT'S SO UGLY
It’s for people who care about their health only. And those who don’t want Android as they cannot buy an Apple Watch in the USA with the features they may need as Masimo owns the patent and has a block on imports of Apple Watches.
 
Ask Apple. Apple countersued and apparently refuses to negotiate a deal with Masimo.
There’s only one way to stop a bully - don’t back down! I agree with Masimo, as Apple has become the bully on the block. They own their ecosystem and bubbles. But in due time, their advantages will slip as people ask their governments why they don’t care like the EU cares about fair competition and citizens rights to do what they wish with products they buy.
 
Yes, Apple may have only won $250 but that’s not the victory. They forced them to spend hundreds of thousands or maybe millions of dollars to defend this case. Sure they got some publicity, but I don’t see it appealing to anyone other than someone who has bitter feelings about Apple.

I suspect shareholders don’t want to lose their investment if the company goes under so they forced out the CEO. They could make billions working with Apple developing this technology or much less trying to be a thorn in their side
Yes, Masimo does not have Disposable Cash reserves like Juggernaut Apple 🍎 does. The best patent lawyers probably charge minimum $100/hour for there services.

If Masimo can’t extend or renew there patents, then they will do a deal with Apple before there patents expire.
 
So even if this $250 absurd token decision is unrelated to the Sp02 sensor situation, why doesn’t the article at least mention how this is the same company that made the blood oxygen sensor disabled in the USA? Am I wrong about that? So confusing, why that feature was just disabled and remains so, for so long now… 😵‍💫

Because this lawsuit has nothing to do with the SpO2 sensor. The SpO2 lawsuit was already finished earlier this year. Those patents don't expire until August 25, 2028. Nothing left for Apple to do except appeal on some kind of error in law or jurisdiction, which basically has no chance of success. At this point, the story is becoming boring. It's clear Apple can enter a licensing agreement, add the sensor hardware back to U.S. models, but they just don't want to.

The $250 settlement today is about Masimo's ornamental design at the back of the watch and charging puck. It's completely insignificant and can be redone with little effort.


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You mean US consumers? Us of the global rest of the world have the FULL Apple Watch functionality.
I live in the US and I've had several Apple watches and I currently have the Apple Watch 10 which of course the oxygen sensor is disabled here. Do you have any idea if I travel to Europe if the oxygen sensor is GPS enabled, thereby allowing it to function in Europe? And furthermore, have you traveled with yours to the US or know of anyone and had their oxygen sensor disabled while they were here?
 
Design patent vs real patent. Apple is getting nothing.
If you actually read the patents disputed you'll Masimo was attempting to nullify Apple's designs so they could create a clone down to the sensor design arrangement, to the curvilinear contours, dial design, etc.

This win informs the rest of the industry this isn't Windows vs MacOS of the '90s.

Every bit of the Apple Watch, Vision, EarPods, etc., force the industry to work around and when it comes to the wrist Masimo trying repeatedly to nullify those design patents and failing will force them to come at this market much differently than they had planned, and will push back their plans considerably because Apple will rightly challenge every single design patent by them and anyone else moving forward, and they have the capital for decades to come.
 
And those who don’t want Android as they cannot buy an Apple Watch in the USA with the features they may need as Masimo owns the patent and has a block on imports of Apple Watches.
The watch IS available to buy worldwide. You can get online and have one shipped now.
 
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Do you have any idea if I travel to Europe if the oxygen sensor is GPS enabled, thereby allowing it to function in Europe? And furthermore, have you traveled with yours to the US or know of anyone and had their oxygen sensor disabled while they were here?
The sensor is disabled by the software, so it won't automatically work when traveling. I assume it is blocked via batched serial numbers associated with region of delivery.
 
Reminds me when Samsung lost the lawsuit and paid Apple in few trucks of coins.

With this gigantic sum of money Tim can finally grab everyone a cup of coffee
 
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To get money out of it. Their patents expire relatively soon (in just over 3 years), not long enough left to make a lot on them on new products themselves, if they want to realize a major windfall before they expire they need Apple to pay them
they can renew it
 
It would be illegal to import it into the USA. That’s the point Masimo won!
Not necessarily. The ban blocks Apple (and others) from importing for sale. Personal use import may be allowed as such exemptions are not uncommon. Its not a quick search to find details for this case - I’m curious and will need to research further
 
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There’s no comparison. Masimo has successfully worked with Fitbit, Garmin, and countless others on licensing. Apple tried playing hardball by not paying up and clearly failed.

IIRC, the ITC verdict is being appealed.

You may have missed that Masimo already changed the design, the dispute is about a discontinued model.

Yes, I did. It will be interesting to see what Apple does next. I don't see them backing down. A company that spends a billion a year on a project and then kills it isn't too worried about some legal fees vs being seen as an easy target.
 
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