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For me, the one and only benefit would be not having to once and while go to the iTunes app on my phone to purchase albums from artists who haven’t authorized their material to stream through Apple Music.
 
Now when it first launched. It was smooth, fast and very responsive for it's first few years. It only became the bloated pile of poop after a few versions as they added more and more things without ever making sure it was efficient and optimised.
If you have 20 gigs of ram installed it still runs great! Just checked, iTunes is using 2.92 GB. At that level I can scroll fast thru 5,700 albums in artwork view and never see a beachball. That's on a 2011 iMac running High Sierra.
Definitely not optimized or efficient.
 
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bye bye smart playlist..
and now how do you upload your own music to apple music????
We'll find out for sure tomorrow, but according to rumors the Music app will support the iTunes legacy features including importing music, backups, restores and DFU mode.
 
The only way I can reliably access a huge catalogue of music, videos and photos on my Apple TV is via Homesharing in iTunes running on a Mac. Many of these are copy-protected and so only work via iTunes. It is highly unlikely that Apple will support Homesharing in the apps that will replace iTunes.
A business model that assumes everyone has continuous, high-capacity, cheap internet access (so can stream everything) is deeply flawed.
 
iTunes was always one of the worst, slowest, and most bloated programs ever created. On par with the original Realplayer if anyone is old enough to know that program.

It wasn't "always" that way. It definitely became that way when Eddy Cue took over.
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Judging by reaction on twitter (search #itunes) this will be a pivotal moment for Apple - if they mess this up and people lose songs or playlists they’ve accumulated for years, the fallout could be ugly.


I am fully confident they're going to have a Microsoft moment and completely screw it up.
 
I understand this from a simplification standpoint.
I'm sad from a nostalgic standpoint.
I'm concerned from a usability standpoint: If I can't access the iTunes Store to BUY music, then Apple won't get any of my money FOR Music. Same goes for TV shows and Movies (both of which I'm already inclined to shop at Google Play for instead).
 
I really hope they don't get rid of purchasing music. I have no interest in a subscription model – I'm oldschool, I like to "own" selected albums I love.

Same here. We enjoy listening to CDs at home, would buy vinyl if we had the space, rip CDs to iTunes for music on the move. We don’t want to miss out on album artwork, lyrics sheets or pay twice for the same thing (eg a CD plus an Apple Music subscription which is expensive compared to Netflix, for example). We also don’t want to have to look at screens while we’re relaxing.
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Interesting to do it today. Because iOS, macOS etc are not due out for a few months. So if they are deleting today are we due for an early release of these products? iTunes typically updated out of cycle?
Maybe they’re just changing the branding today and releasing the new products later?
 
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I don't see why anyone would hate iTunes. Which music organizing app is better and why? Also, @mistasopz (lower-case), "iTunes was always one of the worst," Personal opinion, like worst wine, worst movie, worst book. "slowest," How is music played slow? "It.... was.... a.... hard.... days.... night. "most bloated programs ever created." How do you determine "bloated"? Name a music organizing app that is smaller and does as much as iTunes. "On par with the original Realplayer." Nonsense. RealPlayer cannot do a quarter of the tasks that iTunes performs.
 
I have well over 30,000 songs in iTunes, rated on their 5 star scale. Hopefully, these ratings are able to be brought over into the new program.
It bothers me greatly that Apple Music only has Love It or Hate It (similar to Netflix streaming and Pandora). I haven't figured out the best way to utilize this system to get the best recommendations. I have over 8,000 titles rated with Netflix (now DVD.com), and they didn't transfer those ratings into the streaming system. :mad:
 
But why? I get that Music, Books, and Podcasts are replacing the iTunes app, but the store will still exist. There's still a place for those accounts. And based on leaked iOS 13 screenshots, we'll still have the iTunes Store on iPhone.
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Updated FAQ incoming:
Where is my music? In Music. That's where you can play music from Apple Music, which you may subscribe to. But your music that isn't in Apple Music can be played in Music, so you can still access your music in Music without subscribing to Apple Music.
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will my Playlists remain intact as well?
 
No, I pegged the right poster.

You whined that you won’t buy a new Mac... because iTunes won’t be there??

Your post was just one example of what I was talking about.
Because it would make it impossible to manage what I want to put in the phone.
I was not asking for new software. Just don’t make old software stop working when they are perfectly fine.
Are you even sure you are saying what you meant? o_O
 
If they have to "rebrand", ok. If they have to have an app for each media--books, audiobooks, music, movies--ok. But if I am cut off from purchasing--via iTunes Store Front or any other "front"--because I choose to stay on SierraOS/iTunes 12.6 on a perfectly good MacBook "old" Air, then $crew them.

I've said it before, I am an old hub/sync customer, off-line most of the time on iOS 10 mobile non-phone devices. This is the ecosystem that works for me.
 
Apple would do well to recall the mantra that technology companies often ignore to their considerable cost: "If it ain't broke; don't fix it". iTunes could do with a bit of tidying up and improvement of the interface which is a bit "noughties" but generally for me, it works pretty well. I have near 200GB of music and audio books in my library and I don't want or need to mess around with that.
 
As long as this new app honours my carefully curated library of nearly 16,000 songs spread over 100 playlists, with each track star rated, and reads all the other metadata, then I'll be ok with it. The 'up next' feature is also a deal breaker for me, but that screenshot looks like it's retained it in the top right hand corner.

If it doesn't have these capabilities, or it doesn't allow me to add music files to it then I'll be sticking with iTunes or looking for an alternative.

By the way is there any word on this being released for windows?
 
There are many reasons I think sunsetting iTunes is a bad idea, though I acknowledge I may be in the [largish] minority on that. One reason, however, will be the complete crapshoot of online search results for the inevitable problems that require troubleshooting.

Generic names like Music, Photos and TV (etc.) will make it that much harder to find support articles for upcoming software problems. At least with names such as iTunes, GarageBand, or iPhoto, you could clue in on pertinent material much easier.

It's attention to the little details like these that really separates the great from the merely okay.

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Dropping the "i" in favor of generic names was a puzzling marketing choice, especially since the business lingo these days is all about "brand". Does a diffuse pot of multiple subbrands have an advantage over a solid, tight, single "i" image of the company?
 
Yesterday my wife was asked if iTunes Gift Cards would stop working if there's no 'iTunes.' I really couldn't believe the question. It's a gift card, it legally has to work somewhere within Apple.
 
Because it would make it impossible to manage what I want to put in the phone.
I was not asking for new software. Just don’t make old software stop working when they are perfectly fine.
Are you even sure you are saying what you meant? o_O

Yes.

And you nor anyone else won’t know if the new music app will or won’t do for at least another hour, so the hyperbole in this thread is silly.
 
Software "bloat" is a reflection on the calibre of the IT staff. The more things have to be integrated, the harder the design/coding/maintenance challenge. My guess is that the good, seasoned software folks at Apple left long ago. Hopefully, the techies tasked with the new apps can handle it with adequate intuition for a customer's point of view and thus no loss of function. But one remembers iWorks' history...
 
Yes.

And you nor anyone else won’t know if the new music app will or won’t do for at least another hour, so the hyperbole in this thread is silly.
Considering the fact they have already removed the ability to manage apps on the iOS in iTunes, my hopes can’t be too high, can I?
 
Since you're not familiar with the Zune software, how can you have an opinion on it?

The Zune Marketplace was also, IMO, one of the best subscription services. $10/mo (or $100/yr) got you unlimited streaming, downloading AND 1 FREE ALBUM a month to KEEP! Yes, yours to keep with no DRM.

It's Microsoft who killed Zune. Terrible (lack of) marketing and MS just can't compete their way out of a box if they had to.

It may have been a "fact" iTunes was the best player for an iPhone or Mac, but not for Windows.

As I said before, it was the best player back then, it was common knowledge, not an opinion.
 
Who wants to bet that the new Music app will not support older ipods, or be able to rip cd's or convert AAC to MP3 or any number of things that itunes does not.

That is Apple. Always giving the customers what they don't want or need.
 
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