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Hopefully they don't pull all the downloads. I better download 12.6.5.3 now!
Got it.
 
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I wonder if this means the iTunes Store will simply be called Store. Or, now we will be purchasing content through their respected apps (music purchases through music app, videos through TV app, etc)?
 
There are many reasons I think sunsetting iTunes is a bad idea, though I acknowledge I may be in the [largish] minority on that. One reason, however, will be the complete crapshoot of online search results for the inevitable problems that require troubleshooting.

Generic names like Music, Photos and TV (etc.) will make it that much harder to find support articles for upcoming software problems. At least with names such as iTunes, GarageBand, or iPhoto, you could clue in on pertinent material much easier.

It's attention to the little details like these that really separates the great from the merely okay.

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I have to agree. I try searching for how to do something in Pages and I get results for word with the word "pages" in it.
 
It does NOT work perfectly for music.

Every single time I fire up iTunes and go to music, I end up spending an hour or so replacing album covers. iTunes looks to the Apple store for that, and if an album has been pulled from the store, there goes your album covers and metadata - because they don't keep the metadata there, even if they did sell it in the past. We aren't talking obscure albums, we are talking million selling albums, or in the case of Rumors by Fleetwood Mac (20+ million in the US alone). One day, I got to replace all of my Fleetwood Mac album covers, another day I had to go and replace the Kiss covers, and on and on (and on)....

It also seems to have issues with the size of the album covers and whether or not it is a jpg or a png.

And there is yet another issue when the album covers won't show up. They are there if you go into the info, but they don't show up in the app, until you go to song view, and then switch back to album view.

And Cthulhu forbid that you have music that isn't sold in the US. At one point, I had to spoof a UK iTunes account to grab album covers off the UK version of the iTunes store.

The less said about how iTunes handles Classical Music, the better.

Oh, and then there is the charming bug that deletes what it thinks is duplicate movies that aren't duplicates - they are remakes, and there is no way short of hand-jamming the information into iTunes to keep that from happening.

If they would just fix the #!&^## bugs, it would be fine.

I have a 6+TB iTunes library (50,000+ songs, 1,700 movies, and 1,000+ tv shows) and I dread moving to something else.

Oh, and to head off the inevitable questions.....

Yes - I need all of it. P.T. Barnum sold Apple users in the 10.2 era to Make your computer the hub of your digital lifestyle. Some of us went all in on that because at the time, iTunes was the best thing going.

No - I am not putting anything on the cloud - the cloud is a solution in search of a problem. I don't have to worry about any content disappearing because a studio pulled a movie from Apple. And the less said about internet access in JebbusLand, the better.

Re: Deleted duplicate movies (or, there is nothing new under the sun...) - A significant portion of movies made today are remakes of earlier movies. Why have both? Watch The Crown Thomas Affair with Steve McQueen and Fay Dunaway and then the remake with Pierce Brosnan and Rene Russo. Or that The Hustle is a remake of Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, which was a remake of School for Scoundrels?

Nice explanation, thanks. Seems you're much more into the app than me and thus encounter more problems. I just use it to listen to music and sync and I don't watch movies through iTunes, I use VLC. My music library is just around 30gb, so I'm guessing it's getting more confused as its size increases.

About your covers problem, but have you tried (you probably have) disabling the automatic cover download function? For all my music, I added the covers manually and they have always stayed put.

About needing all of your files, I get it. But our approach is different, I keep everything on a external drive and when needed, I copy a few videos to the Mac and watch them with VLC, kinda a Windows approach, not having everything in one nice place with cover art etc. I never bothered importing everything into iTunes and that might have been a good thing...
 
Let's remember that iTunes isn't just music; it's also TV shows and movies. The fact that they're discontinuing iTunes altogether means that we can look forward to news on the TV and Movies front at WWDC. Will TV shows and movies be sold directly in the TV app? Will individual music tracks and albums be sold on Apple Music alongside the streaming service?

If Apple will stop selling music altogether and move into streaming exclusively, then perhaps the same will happen with movies and TV shows. An AppleTV+ service that includes streaming movies and TV shows that are currently available in iTunes would be an enticing proposition.

I'm looking forward to seeing how Apple ties up all the loose ends.
 
As difficult as iTunes had become to use I still will miss it greatly. For anyone using iTunes for a very long time knows that the original layout was much easier to navigate and use and then eventually they changed the layout little by little after each update and literally changed how the app looked. Took away functionalities that power users had grown accustomed to. I remember that was some of the first times I was genuinely confused at why Apple would “break” something that was working and working quite well. Small example is the sidebar and how the sync page for connected iOS devices changed. Horrible!!!

Even still I will miss iTunes because you still had all your media in one location and in my case very meticulously organized (tons of time spent) and it looked decent! Though we all would have changed or fixed things inside of iTunes none of us would’ve broken down a powerhouse app and brand into 3 newer apps.

I don’t understand the need to break something that isn’t broke and it’s not something that people barely use. Tons of people have spent countless time organizing their music libraries to possibly have it vanish. I am also nervous about making the transition to the new Music app and possibly having my content not transfer correctly. In the past things have been bumpy and I would be nervous about this transition for sure.

I’m hesitant to try any new Apple app ie: Apple Maps or new Apple TV app !!!
 
Apple: Getting rid of hardware and software to make room for more hardware and software we're gonna get rid of

Maybe Apple can commission Billy Joel to record a special version of “We Didn’t Start the Fire” focused on hardware and software updates

“Floppy disks, gone away, what else do I have to say”
 
It would be cool if Apple used a sense of humour to give iTunes a "funeral" like Jobs did with Mac OS 9 or to give it some sort of acknowledgement.
 
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Yeah take something that has had massive brand recognition and just tank it and start over... how about that Mac Pro Tim...

Massive brand recognition like... I dunno... iPod?

Apple could've kept going on the iPod momentum for at least another 5 years. By releasing the iPhone, they killed the iPod at the absolute height of its popularity.

Apple Music is a recognized brand in its own right. In the US, it has surpassed Spotify and is on track to doing the same in other countries. iTunes is associated with the past and with purchasing music. Killing it now makes perfect sense.
 
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“...Something touched me deep inside the day the music died”
 
Why are we moving away from the iTunes brand which is something everyone knows to call it very uninspired names?

There’s the Macintosh. The iPad. The PowerBook.

Literally all products launched under Tim Cook’s tenure are called “Apple [generic name of the thing]”. Apple Watch, Apple Music, Apple Card, Apple Pay. They killed OS X, which is a very cool name, to call it macOS, which is ****. I’m still mourning the loss of the iPod app in iOS 5 (remember, it’s an iPod, a phone, and an internet communications device...).

They’ve been horrible at branding and this is fragmenting the brand. “Air” used to mean something a few years ago, now it means something else entirely (and I’m not sure what it is). Same for Pro. And Apple TV is both a device and a service?

Jesus.
 
yes!! i'm tired of all the bugs.

This is for me iTunes right now:

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I can't increase windows 10 dpi to 125% because this happens since may the first.

Hope the new app is better.
 
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isn't that life itself? We're continuously trying to replace stuff we'll eventually replace at a later point?

Not me. I'm still using an Apple II, because I hate change. But you wouldn't believe how many dongles I have connected. :D

Why are we moving away from the iTunes brand which is something everyone knows to call it very uninspired names?

There’s the Macintosh. The iPad. The PowerBook.

Literally all products launched under Tim Cook’s tenure are called “Apple [generic name of the thing]”. Apple Watch, Apple Music, Apple Card, Apple Pay. They killed OS X, which is a very cool name, to call it macOS, which is ****. I’m still mourning the loss of the iPod app in iOS 5 (remember, it’s an iPod, a phone, and an internet communications device...).

They’ve been horrible at branding and this is fragmenting the brand. “Air” used to mean something a few years ago, now it means something else entirely (and I’m not sure what it is). Same for Pro. And Apple TV is both a device and a service?

Jesus.

I'm with you on your last paragraph there. I was in the Apple store a week ago, and you could see the utter confusion at the iPad section. I watched the employees trying to explain differences between the iPad models. I don't understand them myself, and I'm a lifelong Apple fan. Such crazy confusing product lines.
 
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One way to get all of your music—even ripped music to iCloud—is iTunes Match.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204146

So pay more money basically for something that works perfectly fine as it is? If Apple offered match for free I might use it, as long as my custom album art, metadata eg all carried across. Along with 'number of plays', 'last plays' etc. Basically if it fully synced all the information that iTunes sync does now then I'd do it. Also if it still worked with Last.fm.

iTunes sync is just so simple and easy to do what I want and with Wifi Sync turned on, it happens automatically without me needing to do anything whatsoever.
 
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