Have the libraries on iCloud been erased yet? I'm trying to get an idea of when iTunes Match will be released
They could always miss their deadline, but Apple announced it would be released by the end of this month.
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Apple Wiping iTunes Match Libraries Again on Thursday, October 27th
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They could always miss their deadline, but Apple announced it would be released by the end of this month.
Yes if I was a trusted friend you could do that. But I doubt you would want to throw it on a music download service with your ID embedded in the file.
Michael
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My library is still there as of this writing.Have the libraries on iCloud been erased yet? I'm trying to get an idea of when iTunes Match will be released
Michael
Yeah, Im trying to figure out the actual day
So if the libraries are still there, it looks like today won't be the release, so unless they delay into November, the only two days left are tomorrow or Monday, right?
Seriously...I work with active development and production servers all day. You are supposed to use the AD servers as a sandbox to form, build out, and prove a concept. You should NEVER copy the AD procedures directly to production because with all of the tweaking and changes that constantly go on in AD environments, let alone the lack of fully detailed documentation, you will always miss something.
PR servers are strictly for a ready and working solution, not just a place to throw the mess that is on all AD servers into a new environment.
Seriously, if any of you have experience working on AD environments, you know how much crap is always left on there and how much legacy, undocumented things are left lying around for someone new to figure out.
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Either your ignorance is severely clouding your judgment or you do not have a concept of programmer versus administrator.
I haven't got a preview of iTunes match, could someone help me with the following please
What happens when you load a new cd into iTunes after enabling match. Does it use the analysed meta data and fetch it from match, or do you still have to rip into iTunes?
When you select to download an album from match can it push it to all devices?
I hear there is no USB syncing on downloaded albums from match. Is this true? surely having to download your chosen music for offline listening 3 times to the mac, iPad and iPhone is a waste of apples bandwidth and ours.
Is it possible to rip your own CDs in your chosen bit rates and have them sit alongside match songs, or does it automatically get them from match at 256 AAC?
What happens when you load a new cd into iTunes after enabling match. Does it use the analysed meta data and fetch it from match, or do you still have to rip into iTunes?
When you select to download an album from match can it push it to all devices?
I hear there is no USB syncing on downloaded albums from match. Is this true? surely having to download your chosen music for offline listening 3 times to the mac, iPad and iPhone is a waste of apples bandwidth and ours.
Is it possible to rip your own CDs in your chosen bit rates and have them sit alongside match songs, or does it automatically get them from match at 256 AAC?
You still have to rip it--it will not use tracks from a CD.
It is never pushed. But as soon as it is either identified by iTunes match or uploaded (if not matched) it is available for play or download on all iOS devices.
There is definitely no USB syncing for iTunes match. But if you sync whatever you want to iOS device while IM is off you can turn IM on and all the music is still on the device.
I'm not sure what you mean but any tracks ripped into iTunes will stay there. On iOS devices, with IM on, it will grab it from the cloud unless the track already exist on-board the device.
Michael
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You still have to rip the CD. iTunes Match works just like iTunes Genius and periodically updates itself. However, you can force an update via the menu bar.
No. You must do it on each individual device. It's not treated as a "purchase."
There's USB/Wi-fi syncing if you decide to download the Matched file to your iTunes library and turn off iTunes Match on your iOS device. However, you'd be missing the point. iTunes Match is designed so you don't have to sync or store your music files.
Yes. Obviously, if they are a match, they'll only stream/redownload at 256 kbps AAC on your iOS devices.
It won't upload them to Apple's servers just because they're ripped at a higher bit rate than iTunes Store songs.
Thanks both very helpful!
I know the syncing is a contentious issue.
Just seems odd that if I download 10 albums to store offline (for when I have no connectivity) from IM which I also want on my iPhone and iPad I have to re-download to each instead of a simple sync.
I understand the point of IM and streaming and I know apple mostly do things for the best, I just thought syncing of locally stored files is more efficient in terms of bandwidth.
I know the syncing is a contentious issue.
Just seems odd that if I download 10 albums to store offline (for when I have no connectivity) from IM which I also want on my iPhone and iPad I have to re-download to each instead of a simple sync.
I understand the point of IM and streaming and I know apple mostly do things for the best, I just thought syncing of locally stored files is more efficient in terms of bandwidth.
I think this has something to do with the way iOS 5 handles a library, or more importantly, the actual file that tells the device's music app what exactly is in the library. I noticed when I attempted a wire/wireless sync and cut it off midway, the entire library was listed, with tracks grayed out, as though the database was there, the files themselves were missing. I think that this is also why Match clears the device, its basically downloading a special database that points to the iCloud tracks.
Match does not clear it out, iTunes does. Despite the warning message turning on iTunes Match does not wipe the music already on the iOS device. It is only when you sync to iTunes again that the synced music is wiped. And FWIW music purchased on the iOS device itself, or simply redownloaded via iTunes store is not wiped.
So as of right now it is very much possible to have both iTunes synced music as well as having access to your iCloud music. That is exactly what is on my iPhone 4S right now.
Michael
Speaking from experience, enabling Match has wiped everything out as soon as its toggled. I can verify that by going to usage and having
music display only a few dozen megs of podcasts.
Then you maybe synced.
I just did it around a dozen times--just today alone while testing--on iPhone 4S. Never deletes onboard music simply by turning iTunes Match on on the iPhone itself.
You must do it in the right order.
1.) Turn IM off on the iOS device.
2.) Sync to iTunes and get whatever music is set to sync on iOS device.
3.) Turn on iTunes Match on iOS device.
4.) Do NOT sync with iTunes again.
I just did it 5 minutes ago and it worked exactly as I am stated.
Michael
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Ok, I read through the entire comments section and gained some great insight on this service. I think I'm going to go ahead and sign up for this once I get my new MacBook Pro in the coming weeks.
Here's my question, though: If you use iTunes Match with your iDevice, and play some songs/playlist on said iDevice to which it is downloaded to, once you wifi sync to iTunes or iCloud backup, is that music wiped? If not, is there a way to manually wipe music from the iDevice? I envision they'll be times where I've compiled so much music from listening to my iTunes Match library that I could run out of space on my 16GB iPhone 4 when I try to record a video or save an application. if there's an option in settings to wipe iTunes Match music, or if it automatically does so with wifi sync with iTunes, then everything would be great.
Next question: Beta testers, are you able to pick which 25K songs you want to put into iTunes Match? I know my library's hovering around 56GB (yes, some things are pirated, but my library has taken off since college with music ripping parties and me being a radio DJ at my university's radio station and having access to the motherload of music now). If so, that would be great.
Thanks, y'all.
Here's my question, though: If you use iTunes Match with your iDevice, and play some songs/playlist on said iDevice to which it is downloaded to, once you wifi sync to iTunes or iCloud backup, is that music wiped? If not, is there a way to manually wipe music from the iDevice? I envision they'll be times where I've compiled so much music from listening to my iTunes Match library that I could run out of space on my 16GB iPhone 4 when I try to record a video or save an application. if there's an option in settings to wipe iTunes Match music, or if it automatically does so with wifi sync with iTunes, then everything would be great.
Next question: Beta testers, are you able to pick which 25K songs you want to put into iTunes Match? I know my library's hovering around 56GB (yes, some things are pirated, but my library has taken off since college with music ripping parties and me being a radio DJ at my university's radio station and having access to the motherload of music now). If so, that would be great.
Thanks, y'all.
No. iTunes only wipes out previously synced iTunes music if your iOS device had some on it.
You just have to turn Match off then back on and all of the iCloud tracks are wiped off of the device.
I can't answer that as I have nowhere near 25k songs. But right now Match is looking at your entire library. I suppose as a workaround you could utilize a second mac or pc and load its iTunes library with <25k songs and use that with Match.
Michael
It looks like our chances for a release today are getting less likely, so I guess it's Monday now.
Probably would make sense as they would have this weekend to continue refining the system and then start the new week fixing everything else when all hell breaks loose and iTunes Match goes public.
Probably would make sense as they would have this weekend to continue refining the system and then start the new week fixing everything else when all hell breaks loose and iTunes Match goes public.
I would say no chance at all for a public release today.
I can not even get Match to play well with iTunes right now as it is throwing up an error--but I have not gotten an update to iTunes as that could be it. Or perhaps it is something to do with my iTunes library so I am going to try it again with a greatly-reduced library to see if I can at least get it to work at all.
One thing is clear: the iTunes Match databases were reset yesterday. In my case not until late in the day.
Michael
Sorry to break it to you, but unless you still have a copy of the CD in your possession - that ripped music is pirated.
If you buy a CD, rip it, then sell the CD - that rip becomes pirated. If you borrow a CD and rip it - that rip starts out pirated.
(At least in the US...)
I'm going to assume you're getting the same error as I am, a 4100 error? If so, this has, in the beta at least, meant that the version of iTunes you're using isn't up-to-date enough to use Match, meaning theres either another beta about to hit any time, or the release is very imminent, along with 10.5.1 final.
Yes it is the same 4100 error. But I have not seen an updated iTunes.
I also don't remember the verbiage that went along with the error last time but I "think" it is a bit different this time. I don't remember last time it saying to "try again later" but that is what I am getting now.
I really hope they don't leave it down for the entire weekend. Monday is the last day of October so I am hoping there will be an update soon.
Michael
Withe the last two resets, a new build has been out later that day, but with the day winding down, I'm afraid we may end up having to wait til a final release. Its sad how accustomed I've grown to it, it sucks not having it.