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What do you mean "all under Steve Jobs"? If money is your end-all-be-all, you should be quite happy with Tim Cook, as Apple's revenue is twice what it ever was under Steve :) - who by the way was happy to dine with Barack Obama to change his views on manufacturing, tech education, work visas, etc. In any case, Trump has (half-heartedly) called for a boycott of Apple products. You think Steve would send $100,000+ of free stuff to the convention to elect a presidential candidate who called for an Apple boycott?
No, I'm not happy with Tim Cook because he didn't do anything to expand the company. He let revenue increase by riding off of what Jobs did (and remember that 5-year pipeline?). His only contribution was getting Apple needlessly involved in politics, which I wouldn't mind if he also improved the company. Now, Apple is starting to fail.

Trump is calling for a boycott in response to Apple's action. And Steve Jobs, in Trump's position, would do the same thing. Actually, anyone would.
 
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Hillary could be the most racist person on the face of the earth for all I know, but at least she's basing her campaign around policy, rather than populist rhetoric.
She throws plenty of that in there too. "We need equality! The corporations are out to get us! The wealthy pay lower taxes than the poor!" She plays off of fear and mistrust like Trump does but with different scapegoats. I'm still planning on voting for her, but grudgingly.
 
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And his proposal to block LEGAL immigrants because they are Muslims is what?
Yep. When he announced that, that's what really convinced me. I don't understand the accusations of sexism, though. Seems everyone just says that about every Republican candidate ever.
 
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LOL, so who are you supporting? Hillary Clinton?

A little common sense for you buddy, Clinton is worse than Trump.

If Clinton is elected, other countries will laugh their a**es off at us. Other country's leaders respect Clinton less than they do Trump.

If you want to see our society ramp up the crying even more, especially with how females think they have it so "unfair," then vote Clinton. Our motto won't be, "the land of the free and the home of the brave," anymore, it will be, "the land of the controlled and the home of the feminists."

You think ObamaCare is great? Vote Clinton.

Having 12 years of people who represent minorities and women in this country as a leader has resulted in what we have today... A joke of an America... Not even the best country in the world anymore.
I'm NOT a Hilary supporter, though you almost make me one just out of spite. I mean seriously... "with how females think"? Are you one of those people who think the 19th Amendment should be repealed cause it lets women have an opinion on the election? Also Hilary isn't the one that other countries have talked about banning from even entering their shores.
 
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Can't release them until this Fall when custom AMD Vega GPGPUs arrive for the Mac Pro.
Ugh, are those expensive and rarely-updated workstation AMD GPUs really any better than GTX 1080 and similar cards? Especially if you can pull the GTX out every year and upgrade it? Seems like only a handful of people need pro GPUs, and most just want fast CPUs with high-end consumer graphics.
 
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I happen to know something about Trump and here is the problem. The anti diversity, anti minority, anti inclusion, and anti respect attributed to Trump is really just media propaganda by extreme political hacks. This is an excuse by Apple to look good to to certain voters. Well I stood up and look notice also and will not be supporting Apple in the future. Now I will probably also be called racist, homophobic, etc., but I have close family that sleep with same sex partners and close friends that are minorities. Its time people started to cut through the BS and lies before taking a stand, but it seems we have a bit ignorance at Apple.

Now I understand why they are not interested in producing quality computers any more. Its more about personal lifestyle than fair and equal support for all customers.
Very Well Said!

My prior support of Tim Cook seems no longer appropriate. Ignorance and Narcissism on full display, he's fortified his own intrinsic need to pontificate and posture on the world stage.

So full of themselves, Apple executives in general, seem more interested in their own awards, appearances and various social activities, than creating world class products that Apple is capable of.
 
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People just don't think for themselves any longer. Sadly they will just accept the narrative. Anything they hear they believe. Trump isn't anymore racist than the average American who's pretty fed up with the direction our country is moving in. We have a severe illegal immigrant problem here and it's only getting worse.

Yeah I tried to get that Reznatic guy to watch a documentary on Trump to see why he would be effective at helping this country but he wouldnt watch it.

Instead playing to the cliche, "the greater of two evils" logic that is popular right now.

I consider those people future Trump supporters who are in "transition" -They will come around there is nothing stoping this presidency, this movement. Its bigger than politics.

By the time Trump massacres hillary in the debates (with body language alone, not topic points) they will eventually follow the snowball and allow themselves to board the Trump bandwagon.

Many voters who think like that are swayed by momentum more than logic.

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Very Well Said!

My prior support of Tim Cook seems no longer appropriate. Ignorance and Narcissism on full display, he's fortified his own intrinsic need to pontificate and posture on the world stage.

So full of themselves, Apple executives in general, seem more interested in their own awards, appearances and various social activities, than creating world class products that Apple is capable of.
So now that you hate Apple, I guess you have no reason to linger around an Apple-centric website. :rolleyes:
 
Apple should either support both conventions or neither. They shouldn't be selective. Like it or not, even in a bad year the major party candidate who loses will get 40-49% of the vote, barring a strong third party candidate. Even Mondale got 40% in 1984. Why alienate a big chunk of your buying public?
 
Hitler was "elected" too...
Boy, I sure wish more people would've publicly spoke out against him & not just timidly shushed themselves, as you'd have them do.
The guy is definitely a scumbag. He is opportunistic, racist, sexist, a bigot against the disabled; talked ill of a prisoner of war & even slept with his own daughter.
You may feel free to quietly wait until November, then secretively cast your vote for or against him; but PLEASE don't try to silence those bolder than you, that are willing to use the harsh language the man (& I use that term loosely) deserves.
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The scum moniker is quite appropriate for someone who sees no problem with mocking the disabled.

Trump's entire campaign has been built on nothing but vicious personal attacks and lies.
Not convinced the Democratic campaign is all that squeaky clean either. I think most people will agree political campaigns in the US have become increasingly vicious over the years to the point of the electorate having difficulty respecting certain candidates. I always find it refreshing to see a candidate taking the 'high road' in a campaign, but at the moment I don't see anyone doing that.

It's easy to forget how fortunate we are to live in a society where we can all freely express our thoughts, and debate our differences of opinion publicly without fear of retribution --isn't democracy great-- but I think calling someone "human excrement", which is the post I was replying to, is over the line.

Making statements like that has us stooping to the same level.
 
Not convinced the Democratic campaign is all that squeaky clean either. I think most people will agree political campaigns in the US have become increasingly vicious over the years to the point of the electorate having difficulty respecting certain candidates. I always find it refreshing to see a candidate taking the 'high road' in a campaign, but at the moment I don't see anyone doing that.

It's easy to forget how fortunate we are to live in a society where we can all freely express our thoughts and debate our differences of opinion publicly without fear of retribution --isn't democracy great-- but I think calling someone "human excrement", which is the post I was replying to, is over the line.

Making statements like that has us stooping to the same level.
Umm, no... there really is nothing lower than this.

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well except for what came out of his mouth of course but since that changes from minute to minute. as far as the judge thing it also become muslim judges and women judges.
All he said was that judges have biases. If a white judge or jury acquits a police officer of brutality against a black teenager, are you saying we can't question whether bias played a role?

Assume for purposes of argument that Judge Curiel rules in favor of Trump. Do you think he might have some uncomfortable conversations at the Thanksgiving dinner table?
 
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When it comes to Trump, it's no longer just a political disagreement. The man is at best an ignorant bafoon.

When you're flying about in your massive jet you can decide who's a buffoon.

Different than your tastes obviously. Buffoon maybe not so much.

It also helps to spell buffoon correctly as you judge the ability of others.
 
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I was referring to business operations and how trump and TC got companies and $$$$$. Had they started at the bottom TC and Trump would have failed to build thier respective companies. And both talk BS to cover their lack of ability to run thier companies.

Trump got his start from daddy, because he was born into the family. Tim Cook, other the other hand, was carefully chosen by Steve Jobs. Steve could have picked anyone to hand Apple over to, he had time (he didn't die unexpectedly from a heart attack or plane crash, yet he knew he was dying and needed to plan for a replacement), near infinite amounts of money, and no lack of available talent, and he carefully chose Tim Cook and groomed him for the position. He could have said, "nope, I don't like the way Tim is turning out, I'm going with one of alternate choices", but he didn't - Steve wanted Tim to take over the reins at Apple.

(There's a lot of folks on this forum who rail against Tim Cook and an bemoan the loss of Steve Jobs - I miss Steve too, but remember that Tim is the person that Steve wanted running Apple - Tim is one of Steve's most successful products. You can't very well say, "everything Steve did was wonderful and perfect - oh, except for picking Tim to run Apple.")

You don't see the irony in how cook is a huge preacher of human rights, privacy, equality....and who he does business with?
No, I don't see it, because I have a brain and understand consequences, and the long view. By your logic, followed to its conclusion, we ought to declare war right now on every country that doesn't share our standards for human rights, and immediately bomb them into oblivion, or maybe just threaten to bomb them, unless they immediately change their policies. All or nothing, everything is black and white, right?

But that doesn't work. Apple is working to make the changes that it can. Despite folks in this thread comparing Tim Cook to a plantation owner for using Chinese labor, Apple is doing more than any other western company to raise the standards for working conditions in Chinese factories. Apple is even auditing the practices of the companies they are dealing with, and coercing the companies to treat their workers better. And yet people who can't read beyond sensationalist headlines (or who have their own axes to grind) call Apple slave masters.

Consider also that Apple is working feverishly to make their security unbreakable; they'e not opening it up to the FBI, and they won't be opening it up to totalitarian regimes and dictatorships either. Yes, they're selling phones into countries that have questionable human rights practices. Phones with unbreakable encryption. Those regimes won't be able to listen in on their citizen's conversations. Giving those citizens more freedom. I'm not sure this is such a bad thing.
 
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Not convinced the Democratic campaign is all that squeaky clean either. I think most people will agree political campaigns in the US have become increasingly vicious over the years to the point of the electorate having difficulty respecting certain candidates. I always find it refreshing to see a candidate taking the 'high road' in a campaign, but at the moment I don't see anyone doing that.

It's easy to forget how fortunate we are to live in a society where we can all freely express our thoughts, and debate our differences of opinion publicly without fear of retribution --isn't democracy great-- but I think calling someone "human excrement", which is the post I was replying to, is over the line.

Making statements like that has us stooping to the same level.

Not only that but those things are bogus, fallacies like comparing everything to Hitler etc.

Even the disabled thing is more examples of bogus criticisms. Trump had no idea what that reporter looked like.




"Mr Trump flailed his arms while referring to an article about the 9/11 attacks by Serge Kovaleski, who has a congenital joint condition.

But the politician insisted he did not know what the reporter looked like.

He tweeted that he simply was "showing a person grovelling to take back a statement made long ago".

"I have no idea who Serge Kovaleski is, what he looks like or his level of intelligence," he said in a statement.

"I merely mimicked what I thought would be a flustered reporter trying to get out of a statement he made long ago.

"I have tremendous respect for people who are physically challenged and have spent tens of thousands of dollars throughout buildings all over the world on making them handicapped accessible and ADA (American Disability Act) compliant."

He also accused the New York Times of being "dishonest" and "trying to make a story out of nothing"."




Yet here people are, intellectually dishonest, bringing it up like its a valid criticism against Trump when its already been explained and debunked. The story of this election and the reason Trump will win in a landslide.
 
Trump got his start from daddy,

Trump turned one million into one billion. (in other words he took what his dad gave him and multiplied it x1000 times over)

If you knew anything about business you would know the majority of businesses fail.

Many lesser business men have started off with way more than a million and failed and squandered it.

If you watched that documentary and educated yourself first you would know that what he achieved is way beyond what is normal and is totally indicative and genius and talent.

All it takes is a little closer inspection of the facts. One million was peanuts in the real estate game in NY.
 
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More social conditioning from the liberal left wing political agenda.

Why don't any conservatives have any socially influential technology empires and entertainment monopolies?

I guess they want to turn off half the world to buying their products.

The attempt at social brainwashing doesnt fool me and it strikes me as unprofessional from a tech company. They have lost a lot of my respect due to inappropriate political agendas.

That's rich considering Fox is probably the biggest entertainment empire and they do a very good job of misinforming and brainwashing people.
 
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