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Please list links to proof that either BO or HC "stopped the response" as you put it. There has been about 9 different investigations into Benghazi to date.... Do you really think if the GOP had something to nail either one with, it wouldn't have been done by now?

On and please list BO's "law breaking activities" with the actual laws broken.

I'll wait.

Since I am not your assistant you'll be waiting awhile. If you want to know, you can find the truth. But the truth is you don't want to know. And, I never said the GOP was any better than Obama or Clinton. The GOP have been completely silenced since people like you will believe that anytime they bring something up with respect to a female or minority, that they are being racist, or sexist, or guilty of some other made up offense. When people shoot the messenger, they rarely have logic, or good intentions in mind. But of course that common sense is probably wrong also.
 
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None of that stuff is true or accurate portrayals. If you saw the History documentary you would know that.

Either way, nothing is stopping that train. Nothing you say or do can change the revolution that is happening. The more you hate on trump the more you give him publicity and when those debates starts and he changes gears and acts all presidential and charms the land, people will remember all the filth people like you spewed out and they will support him more than ever before with a vengeance.

Phase one and two are complete, in a few weeks it will be time for phase three.

You, much like your idol, overinflate and overstate things. There is no revolution here. But you, like Bernie supporters, surround themselves with people who agree so they think there is one. Scamming your way to the top is not a revolution.

Charms the land? LMAO. A person can't charm it when they have crapped all over it first.

There are no brakes on this train!
And as I already told you, when there are no breaks on a train, the end result is not good.

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I suggest watching the CNN town hall with Gary Johnson and his running mate tomorrow night June 22nd at 9pm eastern. http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2...-and-vice-presidential-candidates-on-june-22/

Two former Republican governors who left the party because the party left them. Maybe you'll like what you see and hear. I'm going to watch to see what they have to say and learn more about them.

If the R's split their vote between Johnson and Trump would you be happy if the D's split their vote between Dr. Stein and HRC? Johnson is to the libertarian R's what Stein is to the Bernie D's
 
Since I am not your assistant you'll be waiting awhile. If you want to know, you can find the truth. But the truth is you don't want to know. And, I never said the GOP was any better than Obama or Clinton. The GOP have been completely silenced since people like you will believe that anytime they bring something up with respect to a female or minority, that they are being racist, or sexist, or guilty of some other made up offense. When people shoot the messenger, they rarely have logic, or good intentions in mind. But of course that common sense is probably wrong also.

Nice dodge. But the truth is you have absolutely no proof to back up your opinion. ACTUAL PROOF. Not some conspiracy theory as to why "the truth is hidden"

'GOP completely silenced' ..... I actually laughed out loud reading that drivel. When one does not provide proof to back up their argument. It means they are just spewing their opinions as facts. So I am challenging you to prove your post. Back it up. Prove me wrong.
 
You, much like your idol, overinflate and overstate things. There is no revolution here. But you, like Bernie supporters, surround themselves with people who agree so they think there is one. Scamming your way to the top is not a revolution.

Charms the land? LMAO. A person can't charm it when they have crapped all over it first.


And as I already told you, when there are no breaks on a train, the end result is not good.

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He only crapped on the corrupt people that deserve to be crapped on.

Just like Steve Jobs crapped on all the people that were destroying Apple when he came back to power.

The people of the United States want him to crap on corrupt politicians and the biased media.

He's NOT a politician.
 
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If the R's split their vote between Johnson and Trump would you be happy if the D's split their vote between Dr. Stein and HRC? Johnson is to the libertarian R's what Stein is to the Bernie D's
No. She is a wasted vote. Hasn't even managed to get on TV. She's way behind the curve. Johnson has been on TV..many times this campaign season and now tomorrow, the town hall. If the democrats split, at this point I rather have that split go to Johnson too. But I am still undecided on that. Hopefully tomorrow's town hall will give a bit more insight.
 
Nice dodge. But the truth is you have absolutely no proof to back up your opinion. ACTUAL PROOF. Not some conspiracy theory as to why "the truth is hidden"

'GOP completely silenced' ..... I actually laughed out loud reading that drivel. When one does not provide proof to back up their argument. It means they are just spewing their opinions as facts. So I am challenging you to prove your post. Back it up. Prove me wrong.

OK, but your going to discount everything I say because it does not fit your political template.

1. Operation Fast and Furious, the Obama administration facilitated the sale of thousands of guns to Mexican drug cartels and stopped tracking those weapons once they crossed the border.

2. In a case of criminal racketeering, the U.S. Department of Justice was pressuring banks to refuse service to gun stores in a program entitled Operation Choke Point.

3. U.S. Customs and Border Patrol has been purchasing bus tickets and vouchers for illegal immigrants in order to ship them deeper into the country at taxpayers’ expense.

4. Obama’s IRS had illegally targeted conservative groups for additional “reviews” of their tax status applications. Organizations with the phrases “tea party” or “patriot” in their names were singled out for harassment, such as requiring them to provide information about their family members, their social media posts and a list of donors.

5. Obama actually expanded the federal government’s faith based programs which had been started by President George W. Bush.

6. Obama renewed the Patriot Act in 2011.

7. Obama signed an unconstitutional bill that gave the U.S. government the power to indefinitely detain U.S. citizens without any charges being filed or any trial taking place. National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012.

8. After Boeing hired 1,000 new employees to work at its new factory in South Carolina in 2011, the Obama administration ordered the company to close it down because the factory was non-union.

9. During the GM bankruptcy, Obama violated the Fifth Amendment and more than 150 years of bankruptcy law by illegally treating secured creditors worse than unsecured creditors. Outside of the bankruptcy, based on personal knowledge in Illinois all of the republican dealerships were closed and democrat owned dealerships were not.

10. President Obama had an armed SWAT team raid the Gibson guitar factory and seized guitars and other property from the factory – without any charges being filed. Obama’s so-called justification for the raid was that Gibson had broken environmental laws from India regarding the imported wood that Gibson had been using, but C.F. Martin & Company, Gibsons’s competitor, had used the exact same imported wood.
The difference? Henry E. Juszkiewicz, the CEO of Gibson, was a Republican donor, whereas Chris Martin IV, the CEO of Martin, was a Democratic donor.

11. Obama gave some of his favorite organizations an exemption from some Obamacare requirements. Many of these organizations were unions that had supported the passage of Obamacare, but then afterwards wanted exemptions from the very same law they forced on everyone else. The Constitution, however, requires the law to treat everyone as equals.

And on and on.

Obama is supposed to be a Constitutional scholar. So he knows better. The GOP is afraid of him which is why these have all gone unenforced. That is the silence that was mentioned.
 
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Operation Fast and Furious, the Obama administration facilitated the sale of thousands of guns to Mexican drug cartels and stopped tracking those weapons once they crossed the border.

It wasn't that they stopped tracking the weapons once they crossed the border, so much as they lost them.

Never assume malice when stupidity is suffice.

Obama signed an unconstitutional bill that gave the U.S. government the power to indefinitely detain U.S. citizens without any charges being filed or any trial taking place. National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012.

Ah, the jkcerda classic. Though Obama did sign the bill, and he did have the veto power to stop it, remember that it was our fresh, Republican dominated congress that decided to stuff that one extra provision into what's traditionally been a yearly military budget bill.

Never assume fault lies solely with one person or party when talking about our government.
 
It sounds like we agree then on a fiscally conservative policy. We should not be world police but we should bring justice to those who do us harm.

I also note you did not give an example of a country that is better off than the US. If this were the truth then wouldn't everyone be moving there instead? Freedom isn't about getting "free" healthcare, education, etc. It is about having the ability to make any choice for yourself, whether it is right or wrong.

RE: Alexander Hamilton on 2nd Amendment: “The constitution shall never be construed...to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.”
Alexander Hamilton
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I agree. The Founding Fathers were smart men. I think we can all agree that violent criminals/felons should not have guns, which is why we have a required national background check by the FBI at time of purchase from any gun dealer in the US (gun show or otherwise).

What do you want
Health outcomes, the US is number 31, although it spends the most.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization_ranking_of_health_systems_in_2000

Education, USA is number 4
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_Index

Freedom of the press US is 41st
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index

Homicide rate , you are 109th (murders per 100,000 people)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
Here is one for you. New Zealand has 0.1 police officers per 100,000 people, the USA 243, yet US crime rates are MUCH higher.

Democracy, US is number 20
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

Should we talk about how the US still has slave labour. Prisoners are forced to work or suffer significant penalties such as isolation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_labor_in_the_United_States
http://www.salon.com/2015/07/07/23_...very_happening_in_modern_day_america_partner/

The US is certainly not about choice. Choice implies there is an ability to chose between multiple options.
This is certainly not true in the US.
Health, education, social mobility, etc etc etc are highly dependant on income, low income removes choice, and many of the social policies are designed to be punitive.
http://www.scholarsstrategynetwork....blic-policies-are-hurting-poor-families-maine

The only metrics the US is number 1 is prison population (per 100,000) and military spending (about 50% of the entire worlds spending)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate
http://www.pgpf.org/chart-archive/0053_defense-comparison


The founding fathers were short sighted idiots.
The never envisioned todays weaponry, todays transportation facilities, todays communications, todays population and population density.
Something happening on the east coast can be known worldwide within minutes, not weeks/months.
Getting troops from the east cost to the west can happen in hours, not weeks/months
Muskets were high-tech , and even cannons had shorter range and less accuracy than modern sniper rifles. They also had no idea how cheap weapons/ammunition were to become
"The Springfield Rifle cost $20 each at the Springfield Armory where they were officially made."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Model_1861
"The average annual income for a manufacturing worker was $297 in 1860 (according to the US census)."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2914918/posts
And AR15 can be bought for less than $600, the median household income for the United States was $53,657 in 2014
so an AR15 is about 1/10th of the cost in real terms.

If they had any idea what was going to happen to the US, and how gross its murder rate is, I think the founding fathers would have had a very different point of view.
 
OK, but your going to discount everything I say because it does not fit your political template.

1. Operation Fast and Furious, the Obama administration facilitated the sale of thousands of guns to Mexican drug cartels and stopped tracking those weapons once they crossed the border.

2. In a case of criminal racketeering, the U.S. Department of Justice was pressuring banks to refuse service to gun stores in a program entitled Operation Choke Point.

3. U.S. Customs and Border Patrol has been purchasing bus tickets and vouchers for illegal immigrants in order to ship them deeper into the country at taxpayers’ expense.

4. Obama’s IRS had illegally targeted conservative groups for additional “reviews” of their tax status applications. Organizations with the phrases “tea party” or “patriot” in their names were singled out for harassment, such as requiring them to provide information about their family members, their social media posts and a list of donors.

5. Obama actually expanded the federal government’s faith based programs which had been started by President George W. Bush.

6. Obama renewed the Patriot Act in 2011.

7. Obama signed an unconstitutional bill that gave the U.S. government the power to indefinitely detain U.S. citizens without any charges being filed or any trial taking place. National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012.

8. After Boeing hired 1,000 new employees to work at its new factory in South Carolina in 2011, the Obama administration ordered the company to close it down because the factory was non-union.

9. During the GM bankruptcy, Obama violated the Fifth Amendment and more than 150 years of bankruptcy law by illegally treating secured creditors worse than unsecured creditors. Outside of the bankruptcy, based on personal knowledge in Illinois all of the republican dealerships were closed and democrat owned dealerships were not.

10. President Obama had an armed SWAT team raid the Gibson guitar factory and seized guitars and other property from the factory – without any charges being filed. Obama’s so-called justification for the raid was that Gibson had broken environmental laws from India regarding the imported wood that Gibson had been using, but C.F. Martin & Company, Gibsons’s competitor, had used the exact same imported wood.
The difference? Henry E. Juszkiewicz, the CEO of Gibson, was a Republican donor, whereas Chris Martin IV, the CEO of Martin, was a Democratic donor.

11. Obama gave some of his favorite organizations an exemption from some Obamacare requirements. Many of these organizations were unions that had supported the passage of Obamacare, but then afterwards wanted exemptions from the very same law they forced on everyone else. The Constitution, however, requires the law to treat everyone as equals.

And on and on.

Obama is supposed to be a Constitutional scholar. So he knows better. The GOP is afraid of him which is why these have all gone unenforced. That is the silence that was mentioned.


Sorry to burst your bubble. But none of the things you listed has anything to do with benghazi. which is the topic of discussion. But i'll play along......

1. Fast& Furious was one of many operations under Project Gunrunner which began in 2006. Want to Blame Obama for this? go right ahead. but that oversimplifies what went on.

2. Investigation debunked this conspiracy theory already.

3. Yes. Texas US Customs and Border Agents did do this after processing them and giving them court dates. Texas' border was overwhelmed by a surge of immigrants which they have no manpower to combat. BLAME ALL OF THE POLS IN WASHINGTON D.C. FOR THIS.

4. Non-Conservative groups got targeted by the IRS also. No proof was found that Obama ordered this.

5. yeah...So? Many religious organizations actually do a better job helping poor people than the government.

6. this is news? He actually STRENGTHENED it.

7. Until it is overturned by the SCOTUS, it is legal. Sucks but thats the way laws work.

8. This had nothing to do with Obama. But he was the president while this was going on so blame him guess?

9. Even Fox News debunked this.

10. Where does the notion that presidents are personally involved and sanction every federal agency actions?

11. LOL another conspiracy that was debunked
 
What do you want
Health outcomes, the US is number 31, although it spends the most.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization_ranking_of_health_systems_in_2000

Education, USA is number 4
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_Index

Freedom of the press US is 41st
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index

Homicide rate , you are 109th (murders per 100,000 people)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
Here is one for you. New Zealand has 0.1 police officers per 100,000 people, the USA 243, yet US crime rates are MUCH higher.

Democracy, US is number 20
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

Should we talk about how the US still has slave labour. Prisoners are forced to work or suffer significant penalties such as isolation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_labor_in_the_United_States
http://www.salon.com/2015/07/07/23_...very_happening_in_modern_day_america_partner/

The US is certainly not about choice. Choice implies there is an ability to chose between multiple options.
This is certainly not true in the US.
Health, education, social mobility, etc etc etc are highly dependant on income, low income removes choice, and many of the social policies are designed to be punitive.
http://www.scholarsstrategynetwork....blic-policies-are-hurting-poor-families-maine

The only metrics the US is number 1 is prison population (per 100,000) and military spending (about 50% of the entire worlds spending)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate
http://www.pgpf.org/chart-archive/0053_defense-comparison


The founding fathers were short sighted idiots.
The never envisioned todays weaponry, todays transportation facilities, todays communications, todays population and population density.
Something happening on the east coast can be known worldwide within minutes, not weeks/months.
Getting troops from the east cost to the west can happen in hours, not weeks/months
Muskets were high-tech , and even cannons had shorter range and less accuracy than modern sniper rifles. They also had no idea how cheap weapons/ammunition were to become
"The Springfield Rifle cost $20 each at the Springfield Armory where they were officially made."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Model_1861
"The average annual income for a manufacturing worker was $297 in 1860 (according to the US census)."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2914918/posts
And AR15 can be bought for less than $600, the median household income for the United States was $53,657 in 2014
so an AR15 is about 1/10th of the cost in real terms.

If they had any idea what was going to happen to the US, and how gross its murder rate is, I think the founding fathers would have had a very different point of view.


Did you really just cite Wikipedia?

Side note - if the second amendment doesn't apply to modern firearms then I guess the first amendment doesn't apply to the internet. Further, in their time you could purchase true military arms (musket and cannon as you said) and obviously without a background check. You cannot purchase an actual assault rifle without an even more extensive background check, photograph, fingerprinting, etc. and about $20k.

Please think about the cause and effect of things before attempting to just regurgitate "facts" from Wikipedia.
 
No he isn't. He's the only GOP candidate who spoke out against the laws in NC and IN. He promoted women executives at his organization, and he is all for legal immigration. I don't like a lot of his campaign policies, but the left is too quick to dismiss anyone they disagree with as racist/sexist. He strikes me a lot like Ross Perot, but a bit less filtered (if that's possible). I.e. an economic nationalist.

He had some he will appoint a judge that will overturn same sex marriage. He also complained about a judge because their family is from Mexico.

He is prolife which is very anti-women. He is also against equal pay, which is very anti-women.

He is a bigot.
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At the very least, you could say he's severely out of touch.

Bigot and ouch of touch
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And the huffington post is anti white male, anti family, anti gender roles, and anti-masculinity

The editors of Huffington Post:

hmmmmmmmmm I wonder what is on their hidden agenda????

These are commonly reported quotes or facts about Trump. Blaming Huffington post is a co-op.
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Did you really just cite Wikipedia?

All the information on wikipedia cite sources. Follow the paper trail if you think it's wrong.
 
Sorry to burst your bubble. But none of the things you listed has anything to do with benghazi. which is the topic of discussion. But i'll play along......

1. Fast& Furious was one of many operations under Project Gunrunner which began in 2006. Want to Blame Obama for this? go right ahead. but that oversimplifies what went on.

2. Investigation debunked this conspiracy theory already.

3. Yes. Texas US Customs and Border Agents did do this after processing them and giving them court dates. Texas' border was overwhelmed by a surge of immigrants which they have no manpower to combat. BLAME ALL OF THE POLS IN WASHINGTON D.C. FOR THIS.

4. Non-Conservative groups got targeted by the IRS also. No proof was found that Obama ordered this.

5. yeah...So? Many religious organizations actually do a better job helping poor people than the government.

6. this is news? He actually STRENGTHENED it.

7. Until it is overturned by the SCOTUS, it is legal. Sucks but thats the way laws work.

8. This had nothing to do with Obama. But he was the president while this was going on so blame him guess?

9. Even Fox News debunked this.

10. Where does the notion that presidents are personally involved and sanction every federal agency actions?

11. LOL another conspiracy that was debunked

Your original question wanted a list of Obama law breaking?

Thinking just a little harder than it takes to watch the evening news, would tell you, for example, and I am not going to list them all, because just like my original post, you don't want to know the truth. If you did you would be asking what a few more times and focusing on what was not said.


#4, yep no proof from Obama's justice department. Does that even sound reasonable to anyone?

#5 spending gov money for any specific religious organization is wrong and illegal. That is why they don't pay taxes, they don't need and should not have my tax dollars.

#9 I don't watch fox news, but in any case it does not matter. Many news organizations routinely lie when it comes to Federal government. If they don't they get targeted, or lose access.

#1 the leader is in control and especially this leader. If it did not come from the While House then someone would have been fired over it, no one was. Most people would be furious if someone that worked for them broke the law. Not this President, he has not punished anyone. Ever wonder why? So if you want to know the truth, look at what was not said and what did not happen. Same thing for number 4. The non-conservative groups was added to the list almost 2 years after it happened. Any reasonably honest person would just say "Cover up?" and be done with it.

But this is the end of this conversation, go ahead and stick your head in the sand. Your children will thank you later.
 
Your original question wanted a list of Obama law breaking?

Thinking just a little harder than it takes to watch the evening news, would tell you, for example, and I am not going to list them all, because just like my original post, you don't want to know the truth. If you did you would be asking what a few more times and focusing on what was not said.


#4, yep no proof from Obama's justice department. Does that even sound reasonable to anyone?

#5 spending gov money for any specific religious organization is wrong and illegal. That is why they don't pay taxes, they don't need and should not have my tax dollars.

#9 I don't watch fox news, but in any case it does not matter. Many news organizations routinely lie when it comes to Federal government. If they don't they get targeted, or lose access.

#1 the leader is in control and especially this leader. If it did not come from the While House then someone would have been fired over it, no one was. Most people would be furious if someone that worked for them broke the law. Not this President, he has not punished anyone. Ever wonder why? So if you want to know the truth, look at what was not said and what did not happen. Same thing for number 4. The non-conservative groups was added to the list almost 2 years after it happened. Any reasonably honest person would just say "Cover up?" and be done with it.

But this is the end of this conversation, go ahead and stick your head in the sand. Your children will thank you later.


And NONE of your rant shows ANY proof laws broken. Even investigations by GOP, who want BO to fail, has come up empty.
Either he's the greatest, slickest teflon don politician to ever have lived. Or you just want him to be guilty, just because.

Not to worry though. In a short time you will have another politician to rail against. Nice chatting with you.
 
Welp tours over for hillary.

Trump already went phase 3 and already destroyed her in one foul swoop


Checkmate liberals
 
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Fast and Furious Weapon Traced to Murder of Three Mexican Police Officers




"One of the weapons used in a deadly Mexican shootout last year was traced to the U.S. government's disastrous Fast and Furious operation. Three Mexican police officers were killed in the shootout.

A Justice Department summary provided to two Republican congressional committee chairmen Tuesday found that a WASR-10 rifle, purchased six years before in the U.S., was one of three rifles fired in the July 27 assault in the town of Valle de Zaragoza. It was not immediately known which weapon caused the officers’ fatal wounds.

Nevertheless, Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco Firearms and Explosives officials traced the WASR rifle to a Nov. 12, 2009, transaction that was part of the flawed federal gun trafficking operation, known as “Operation Fast and Furious.”"

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/0...d-to-murder-of-three-mexican-police-officers/


That rascally scum lawyer Eric Holder tried to pull the wool over everyones's eyes.
 
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