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Seems about right to me. If I let you borrow my car on the condition that you fill the tank and you “forget”, I’m not gonna be too quick to let you borrow it again… certainly not while you’re screaming “BUT I DIDN’T INTENTIONALLY NOT DO IT, I JUST FORGOT!! WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM??”
But, I will try and get court order that says you still have to let me use your car.
 
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Not at all a fan of Epic. Thought their lawsuit was very poorly strategized. However also think that Apple is very wrong with this post-trial approach (which seems it came from "Legal"). IMHO Apple is really going to get exposed via discovery in the Eleftheriou suit. I know "Legal" thinks they are just going to bury this guy, but sometimes the folks with the prestigious degrees get it wrong. (Background: I once got a full week of prep by a huge group of defendant's lawyers as I was a primary witness for the prosecution - but worked for the defendant - in a pretty big tech monopolist lawsuit (via discovery of an email I wrote). IMNAL, but after spending a week of being prepped, I realized that there can be as much ego ("we're smarter then them - likely there were not Ivy-League...") in this stuff vs. common-sense re: discovery exposure. Something seems really off re: Eleftheriou. Apple seems to just have screwed the guy via their monopolist App Store position (again IMNAL). Eleftheriou seems to want to go nuclear and hats off to him for this as this the non-standard approach that can catch a "Legal" team with pants down.

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This entire drama has been, and continues to be, nothing but a tantrum from a petulant man-child named Sweeney Tim.

The real losers are consumer, but not the way Sweeney thinks. He is still wealthy, Apple still owns their own creation, and many consumers who spent money on the Fortnite product are now left in the ashes of this dumpster fire war he started.
 
Awesome... I hope this court case is dragged out for 100 years now!
Goodbye Epic Games, you deserve a slow and painful death and I hope you suffer. Even if there was no court case I would still be saying this because... Fornite! 😂
I’m pretty sure that Fortnite being banned from iOS isn’t going to bankrupt Epic anytime soon. Stop drinking the koolaid.
 
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Apple are such a bunch of petty sore losers, it’s really kind of pathetic. Everyone knows that they’ll be forced to reinstate Epic’s account eventually.
There is nothing valiant about unleashing a violent enemy while they are still thrashing at you. Apple will hold its victory and its ground until the loser acknowledges the rules and wants to move on with life.

Allow me to edit your scathing opinion with facts and clarity:
(Apple are such pathetic sore losers = Apple won, which makes you angry), (kind of pathetic = you don't like them winning), (everyone knows = you hope), (they will be forced to reinstate Epic = Apple will choose to do so), (Eventually = you have that part spot on)
 
Not at all a fan of Epic. Thought their lawsuit was very poorly strategized. However also think that Apple is very wrong with this post-trial approach (which seems it came from "Legal").

I think their approach makes sense. Epic has appealed the court decision, they have openly stated that they don’t find App Store rules unacceptable and they are railing people against Apple. Why do business with them?
 
Both sides seem to be acting like children a bit, but Epic more so. Epic should stop trying to let the court of public opinion try to influence the court decisions by airing all their petty tidbits through Twitter. Clearly it’s not working. I think they could use some new legal advice and strategy.
 
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"we could find common ground on the topic if Apple's position were based solely on user security and privacy rather than commercial interests"
As if Epic's interest in this isn't based solely on commercial interests, namely avoiding Apple's 30% commission.

I don't blame Apple for telling Epic to hit the road. They've announced they will continue to flout Apple's rules, and while that's with court's approval, they're simultaneously appealing that ruling. "We're going to take the one part of the court ruling we like, and meanwhile, we're going to keep fighting with you over the parts we don't like and continue to be a pain in your ass. Oh, by the way, let's be friends and please let us back in?"
 
It is interesting to see Apple continue to push this position, as it is only a matter of time before Apple is forced by legislators to allow other app stores such as the EU's digital markets act
Yup, apparently Tim Cook isn’t very smart since Apple is pretty much carrying a flashing neon “regulate us now!” sign by pulling some new absurdly anticompetitive stunt daily.
 
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