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Apple Won't Debut Subscription Television Service at WWDC
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Most likely the new Apple TV will be announced with HomeKit support, App Store, and ability for TV streaming. However, TV streaming will not be available for several months. So it will likely be a .1 update or something to provide functionality.
If you go to an Apple Store, they'll be able to sell you one, or you could order one online.
There's a lot of people in the US (like myself) who live somewhere that "Free" HD antenna channels are not available (e.g. CBS, ABC, NBC, FOX).
Without those, it's useless. If the delay ensures they can include them, that would be fine by me (so long as the delay isn't forever).
Without those, it's useless. If the delay ensures they can include them, that would be fine by me (so long as the delay isn't forever).
Well, I for one am not surprised. Apple is becoming far too dependent on iPhone Revenue.
Service providers demand X for their service. Apple wants to offer it at x. Apple knows they can't change the reality of the Providers X. Apple won't lower it's projected margins. So no deals. Apple is stuck in it's own Space Time Continuum. Bummer for WWDC ATV Hopefuls.
Service providers demand X for their service. Apple wants to offer it at x. Apple knows they can't change the reality of the Providers X. Apple won't lower it's projected margins. So no deals. Apple is stuck in it's own Space Time Continuum. Bummer for WWDC ATV Hopefuls.
I've been saying this forever. A thousand times - give us ala carte viewing. These old white guys in the cable industry are really getting on my nerves. They're holding onto their antiquated business model till their last breath.
It also doesn't help that they have monopolies on the content or infrastructure.
The same thing happened to Jobs when he revolutionized the music industry with ala carte music tracks via digital downloads on iTunes. The music executives fought him every step of the way.
And all the worry/fuss was for nothing since it turned out to be a huge success for them and for Apple.
It's been a boring few years for those of us outside the US. iTunes Radio (unless you happen to be in Australia), Apple Pay I'm starting not to expect to see ever and a new channel a week on ATV which is unavailable to anyone without a US cable subscription.
Well let me tell Apple (and the cable companies), I'm in the "gray" market, using various logins to watch stuff, and finding other various streams online, with the occasional iTunes season pass. Let me tell you, I don't even think there is anything right now they can do to get me to pay again. The hard truth is that if there is breaking news I can find any one of the Fox, CNN, MSNBC streams out there, and I can watch any show 30 minutes after it airs.
Want to know what really sux? I used to buy South Park season pass. Sometimes 3 days later I still didn't have the new episode. But I can go to <some site> and within 30 minutes of any show ending, you can stream it. The thing is that I would pay for service like that!!!! But I will not pay $40/50 bucks a month for channels I don't want. I don't want channels, I want content/shows. You can keep AMC, just give me the few shows on AMC I watch.
Want to know what really sux? I used to buy South Park season pass. Sometimes 3 days later I still didn't have the new episode. But I can go to <some site> and within 30 minutes of any show ending, you can stream it. The thing is that I would pay for service like that!!!! But I will not pay $40/50 bucks a month for channels I don't want. I don't want channels, I want content/shows. You can keep AMC, just give me the few shows on AMC I watch.
Meh they don't want Apple dominating TV like they used to control the music business back in the day of iTunes' dominance. But you know what? While the "industry" quibbles and negotiates, the "viewers" are getting way too comfortable streaming everything for free.
Word to the wise, get that Apple TV working so at least there is another viable pay option. Because if you don't give people the specific shows they want (not packages, shows and episodes), they're gonna get in the bad habit of stealing/streaming them.
So make that deal for Apple TV, content providers, while you can!
Word to the wise, get that Apple TV working so at least there is another viable pay option. Because if you don't give people the specific shows they want (not packages, shows and episodes), they're gonna get in the bad habit of stealing/streaming them.
So make that deal for Apple TV, content providers, while you can!
I agree. Ala Carte would seem the best way to go. There are a few channels I would like to watch, but I don't want to pay for content I have no interest in.
I have 2 ATV's at this point, one is in the bedroom which is on my older 720 and is used for Hulu, etc. The other is AYV 3 for 1080 and movie watching.
I was looking more at an updated ATV that would now become more of a hub for home automation.
If they go global and it lives up to the rumoured 25 channels then I'd be a very happy lad. I'd also love to see Apple team up with PBS/BBC/DW and other public broadcasters to broadcast to Apple TV devices because right now PBS still doesn't provide all their content on YouTube which means it is pretty much off limits for those of us with an Apple TV device. Hopefully Amazon and Google will get their act together as well because us overseas customers are routinely screwed over at every opportunity by US based media companies.
Even with a la carte channels... you're still paying for stuff you don't want.
Channels broadcast 24 hours a day... including the 8 hours you're asleep and the 8 hours you're at work. You might love AMC for Mad Men... but you'd still be paying for a bunch of meh movies during the day.
It sounds like you want a service where you could simply watch the shows you want... not entire channels.
I'm imagining a service where you can get EVERYTHING on-demand.
But not like Netflix with crappy B-content for $8 a month.
More like $40 a month and you get every TV show and movie ever made.
I doubt that will ever happen though... but it's fun to dream
This is probably how it is going to have to go down but it might be good thing. Think about it, Apple needs that SDK out there before they get big networks on board for competition's sake. There are thousands of Internet shows and pseudo networks that don't have their content tied up in contracts and affiliate streaming rights. Now they will get onto Apple TV before all the big networks because they've been waiting for that SDK to release their own app/show/network. They might not be making much money except for advertising like podcasts do now but they will show just how easy it is to get along without big networks. Within 6 months time, all the big networks will be banging on the door trying to join the party on Apple TV. At least that's what I hope.
What Apple did with music isn't really relevant because it's a totally different business model than TV. Apple was/is just another middle man selling an end product (music) to consumers. What happened with music was a natural evolution. Music used to be sold to consumers on records, then 8-track, then cassette, then CD and then as downloadable digital files. Medium changed but the business model remained basically unchanged.
TV is a completely different ball of wax. TV shows are not end products sold to consumers. Consumers/TV viewers are the product and they are sold to advertisers. Been that way since the 1930s and currently ad revenue for OTA and cable/sat is somewhere in the neighborhood of 65-70 billion dollars annually. Considering things like the current business model has been used since the dawn of TV, the number of players in the game (untold number of production companies, broadcast networks, sports leagues, local TV stations, cable providers, sat providers, retailers, etc.,.) and the massive amount of ad revenue generated (which apparently these companies are all just supposed to turn their back on and 'assume' that direct sales will generate substantially more revenue) I'd say the industry as a whole is moving at a pretty decent clip towards change. I mean, in about 10 years we've basically gone from no-streaming options to cord cutting being pretty viable. Not to mention waiting for technology to improve. I mean, even if the TV industry was ready to go 'all in' 10 years ago there's no way the Internet at the time could have supported it.
If you want per-show a la carte then buy shows from Amazon or iTunes. I was a cord cutter for 5 years and that's how I kept up with SoA, Justified, Orphan Black, Walking Dead, The Americans, Breaking Bad, Dexter, etc.,
I watch like four channels and NFL Sunday ticket. 30-40 dollars a month would be phenomenal instead of 100. If it weren't for the NFL I would have cut the cord years ago. I'd love to see them cut a deal with the NFL.
If you subscribe to NFL Sunday Ticket Max can you use AirPlay to send it from your iPad to your
TV?
is there any rappers or gansters they could sign to promote this service
Are there any rappers