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Apple Working on 4K 'Ultra HD' Television Set for Late 2013 or Early 2014 Launch?
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I grew up in a time when movies came on tapes, and those had not even a quarter of what is now called HD resolution. Then came DVDs, which not even have half of the HD resolution. So no, movies have NOT always been HD.
You might not realise this. But when the movies were being made, they were captured, edited and mastered on something called film. This was, by modern standards, a high-definition format.
There are still things called movies. Which have always been 4K. There are movies from the 1950s that have been transferred to 4K.
Naw.
Well the brand "loyal" people will def get pocket hurts
Deep pockets never hurt, or empty for that matter. The fact that you don't know that shows that you are mostly definitely not among them.
I wish.
Sorry to disappoint you but, most photographically captured movies barely come close to 2K. Some quite a bit less.
Film (the technology) is capable of holding much higher resolution imagery, but with analog editing, reprinting and mastering, there's a generational loss at each stage. It's clear from just looking at BluRay movies, how few photographically captured movies are as sharp as the format can manage.
Modern movies might be captured on 4K digital sensors. But most are downsampled and mastered at 2K. Using the raw sensor output is bad because there are artefacts aplenty.
As a result only a tiny handful of movies are mastered at 4K.
This is a pointless idea because audiences just cannot see the benefit. Which is why you can show the Dark Knight Rises, on a gigantic screen at 2K and no one walks out.
what is the estimated maximum resolution that can be obtain from film transfer? What is the dpi of film?
edit: OK Forget I mentioned it, apparently Carniphage already took us to the bottom of this., thanks
Apple will have to properly support a TV.
They can't go down the iOS route of software updates only working with the latest hardware - e.g. iPad 1 not accepting iOS6 only 18 months after being on sale. Not acceptable on a $500 device, let alone a $5000 one.
People buy a TV and expect it to last ages - they can't be expected to buy a new one every 2 or 3 years.
They can't go down the iOS route of software updates only working with the latest hardware - e.g. iPad 1 not accepting iOS6 only 18 months after being on sale. Not acceptable on a $500 device, let alone a $5000 one.
People buy a TV and expect it to last ages - they can't be expected to buy a new one every 2 or 3 years.
Does anybody else get depressed at the thought of millions of these appliances thrust upon the world, that really, nobody needs?
I'm tired of playing catchup with formats. VHS to DVD to bluRay to "HD" digital to... 4K? I'm happy with mine right now but some assurance that when I buy a movie it's a generation or two proof would be nice. If I could buy a movie and own it in any size digitally that would make it so much easier.
So much for rushing to be the first reply to the article.
'Bottles' the mind? Too funny!
Yep, it´s totally amazing as a money throw-away device. There´s barely (if any) content out there that has that resolution apart from digital masters directly from the studios. And even if Apple could somehow offer 4K material directly from the studios through the iTunes store, you would need at least 2 times the bitrate or H.265 to encode that to justify the download (let alone streaming) times for a movie or tv episode.
4K would be awesome, but it´s a marketing buzzword that doesn´t really add anything. 4K would make a difference with very large TV sets, but these would cost a fortune to produce and barely anyone could buy them.
Not before the end of 2014 at the earliest. You heard it here first.
iTV is already taken by a commercial TV network in the United Kingdom, so no chance of Apple using that name.
Well, not exactly no chance...
What you mean is...
What is the chance of Apple ignoring what one company does, and just going ahead and calling their product whatever the hell they want, and then arguing about it afterwards?
It'll need a better feature set than 'Apple TV' and '4K' if you actually want it to sell.
Seriously the current AppleTV really is nothing special, especially when you can hook up a RaspberryPi and have full XBMC or Plex running on it. It renders most of the AppleTV functionality as 'meh'.
Cant really see what (if anything) Apple can bring to the table here. I just really hope that it'll be apps. Even still though, who's going to play Angry Birds on their TV when they can play it on their iPad/iPhone whilst watching TV?
Seriously the current AppleTV really is nothing special, especially when you can hook up a RaspberryPi and have full XBMC or Plex running on it. It renders most of the AppleTV functionality as 'meh'.
Cant really see what (if anything) Apple can bring to the table here. I just really hope that it'll be apps. Even still though, who's going to play Angry Birds on their TV when they can play it on their iPad/iPhone whilst watching TV?
I know it is redundant with digitimes as a source, but this is just made up nonsense.
Well the brand "loyal" people will def get pocket hurts
Yes, 4K is a lot of money for a TV!
Don't agree at all... Compared to Android devices out on the market already, Apple really excels in this area with iOS device lifespan.
Anyway... Looking forward to seeing what Apple does do here.... I keep thinking the actual monitor is not the issue, it's the brains that matter and Apple really could come out with something cool if they can get the entertainment industry to follow.
Capturing analog film with a 4k sensor does not make it better. The world will eventually need to stop equating quality with pixels...
They could try that, but they'd be in for a world of hurt. ITV is trademarked in MANY countries, not just the UK - including the US.
Lol. iPad 1 came with iOS 3 and was supported with iOS5. And even this was remarkable for a device with 256 mb ram.
Also, you dont NEED to buy anything, you make it sound iPad 1 stopped working when iOS6 was released.
Uncompressed 1080p looks great, and last time I checked, no one watches a 50 inch TV from 10 inches away. 4k is just a marketing gimmick. I'd rather see uncompressed HD signal before another resolution bump. As others have mentioned, this new technology is useless without the content.