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I can unambiguously say Apple is the ONLY manufacturer of such a product that I would trust to listen to everything going on in my home 24/7. The others are simply not trustworthy.

I think you are just being inconsistent here. Most Apple fans (at least if one were to believe what they are posting here) would never use such a device (violation of privacy and such). And this could mean that Apple's device is doomed (because they conditioned their fans by false advertisement of privacy and stupid attacks on Google).
 
For crying out loud...this is not innovation. And I already carry 2 Siri's around with me at all times. I don't need another in the kitchen or wherever.

You might be ok with carrying your phone everywhere you go in your house but I'm not. I have been waiting for Apple to come out with a device that I can put in every room of my house to have Siri access to my HomeKit devices wherever I am. I thought the TV with a few satellite listeners was going to be this. Looking forward to seeing what they come up with.
 
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Ugh, I hate to be so negative. But yep, it's a little too late.

Not to mention, Siri is just so tainted to me. It fails at everything from playing music to simple queries to understanding me when I'm speaking perfectly fine. I just wish the Echo wasn't on constant backorder.


They can't even update their top end Mac. It's getting lame.
 
I understand why Apple might want to go there but I think there might be some pitfalls for Apple in doing it. There is very little chance that at this point in time Apple can compete with Google on AI and wealth of information. As a result, Apple offering might be inferior to the extent that it could be embarrassing (or at least detrimental to Apple image).
 
Would you believe that the "conversational pylon" concept actually started at PARC almost twenty years ago, Apple was working on this concept from the early days of Steve coming back but it was pushed aside many times for the iPod then iPhone then iPad and even the Watch?

Would you believe a few Pylon developers got sick of this and found friendlier executives at Amazon willing to make it happen? Now some exec at Apple, has her projections for it go to the garbage over how well the Echo sold? Now they are trying to convert the pylon into a "HomeKit hub" and launching it similar to their first generation WiFi.
 
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I doubt Apple will open siri up like the Echo. Like the article says opening siri to developers. so that's just allowing commands into the app. That does not mean an Echo device... It's 50 times easier to code a Alexa Skill for the Echo that it would ever be to code something for iOS / Siri. It takes at least 2mons to dev something meaning for for the iOS and about 1day to dev for the Echo. I would be shocked if Apple built an Echo or Home style device.
 
I have those myself. I figured the "wink" emoji conveyed that I was joking about Beats speaker perfection.
It did. I have those too :D
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Would you believe that the "conversational pylon" concept actually started at PARC almost twenty years ago, Apple was working on this concept from the early days of Steve coming back but it was pushes aside many times for the iPod then iPhone then iPad and even the Watch? Would you believe a few Pylon developers got sick of this **** and found friendlier executives are Amazon willing to make it happen? Now some exec at Apple, has her projections for it go to the garbage over how well the Echo sold? Now they are trying to convert the pylon into a "HomeKit hub" and launching it similar to their first generation WiFi.
Is it true?..
 
I hope the rumor of a Siri SDK is true because it needs to grow up fast. Apple has stifled the Siri team so much that all the original developers left and created Viv.
 
I'll be happy to see them open up Siri with an SDK but these in home listening speaker devices are stupid.
Do you own an Echo? I respect your opinions but question the accuracy if you have not experienced the device. I have an Echo for over a year and half, find it very useful, exceptional at managing music, personal assistant, and fun at parties, to name a few things it offers. Siri has a long way to go before it can do even a small portion of the things Alexa can today.
 
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I'm conflicted on whether the idea of a standalone Echo-like device is something that makes sense. I'm one of those people (along with my wife and each of our 4 kids) who always have their iPhone with them, so having a standalone device would just be yet another electronic device sitting somewhere taking up space and consuming electricity waiting for the occasional use when I or someone else is in the vicinity and wants to ask for something.

I get the real use is likely as a home automation hub, but we're not there yet with home controls and the internet of things. And how commercials show these things playing music - it just reminds me of the transistor radios of days past, where my grandparents would be happy with the sub-par, mono, sound they produce. I would be interested in Apple getting into the remote / distributed speaker market where each set of speakers would include a microphone, so you could Hey Siri to any one speaker that is connected to your home wifi system. That would make sense - but only if the sound quality and physical looks are good.
 
Seems that last thing Apple engineers need right now is another product to maintain. Just opening up Siri to homekit h/w partners would fill the same gap, no? Personally I'm still uncomfortable having speakers listening in in every room. It's not that I don't trust Apple, it's that hacks happen no matter how rigorous a company beta tests.
 
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3rd-party Siri integration? YES PLEASE.

As far as an Amazon Echo competitor, I don't personally see the need for separate voice-controlled devices from my iPhone or watch, or tv.
 
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